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  1. Join Date
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    #2931
    Quote Originally Posted by altec
    walang congressman o senator na nakabili ng innova d4d? meron naman siguro. Tanong natin kung sino ang meron, tapos kung sino ang naka experience what we experienced. Let them know that it is not an isolated case, and it has happened to others. Pwede padala ng isang letter to all the senators and congressmen, siguro naman someone from their staff will get worried and eventually reach their big boss.
    It is easier said than done. You have to lobby sa house, sa senate at sa malacanang. Dalawa palagi ang version: House at Senate. Moreover, lobbying is not a guaranty that the bill will be passed. Why? Meron kasing ek ek priority bills ang malacanang at dun natatabunan sa kawalan ang reklamo ninyo.

    Just in case nga pala na ma pass ang lemon law, I doubt kung macocover na ang mga nakabili na ng sasakyan (siguro with the exception of those who are still under warranty). Kasi when you lobby for a bill hindi lang ang panig ninyo ang pakikinggan. Patatawag rin ang Toyota, Mitsu, etc. para marinig ang side nila.

    The bill will always be a win win situation. 50% sa consumer at 50% sa manufacturer. Unless of course na mag-iiba ang version pagdating ng bicameral conference committee wherein sangkatutak na pera ang babaha 2 amend the proposed measure to a 20% 80% proportion in favor of the manufacturers. This is very possible.

    Unless na makita nila ang urgency eh hindi mapraprioritize ang bill. Kung ang bill ay like this: An Act Increasing the Penalty of Carnapping and Carjacking to death penalty, amending for that purpose etc. etc. > This will surely attact the attention of the politicians as it is a current issue which they could ride on para magkaroon ng pogi points. Anti-Lemon Law? Madaling busalan ang mga bibig ng mga proponent diyan. Siguro tig-iisang Fortuner VVTI lang ang ipamimigay bawat proponent eh patay na ang bill.

    Oo nga pala, taga Senado ako at abogado rin ako.

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    #2932
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    Wow, ganito pala ka complicated yung process. So all we can do is pray that our D4D Innovas stall within the warranty period . . . or doesn't stall forever.

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    #2933
    Quote Originally Posted by jimaroquai

    Oo nga pala, taga Senado ako at abogado rin ako.
    kaya pala, alam na alam :D

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    #2934
    R u guys sure na all innovas will be affected sooner or later by this flaw? Are all innovas here in the phil has the flaw? ^_^

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    #2935
    sir jimaroqui, thanks for insight. Complicated nga ang process...whewww. However, we can't live with the current situation where we always have this "UNEASY FEELING" whenever we drive our Innovas coz of stalling/choking problem. Can you sir advise us what should be the best thing to do to at least relieve us from this anxiety. TIA.

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    #2936
    *Lar,

    ANy news yet....


    WBR,

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    #2937
    Hello people,

    I'm planning to get an Innova within the month and still thinking which variant to get (for budget considerations, J is the way to go) But if I go with the E variant, is it worth the 100k+ difference from the J? Considering the power features and seat material. May iba pa bang advantage yung E? I haven't had the chance to compare both variants point by point. Another question is wether to go for D4-D or VVTi engine? I tried reading the whole thread starting from the first page but sobrang dami na pala ng pages. It would take a very long time to read the entire thing. One consideration is the problems encountered by some of the forumers with their D4-D engines. Any inputs will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    #2938
    First of, decide whether the recent stalling/sputterring of the D4-D engine is really worth the trouble or risk. Read more on that here

    If you dont want any headaches associated with the D4-D engine, either get the "J" vvti if on a tight budget or "G" vvti if within the budget. The "E" is available with the D4-D engine only
    Last edited by number001; December 4th, 2005 at 04:06 PM.

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    #2939
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    First of, decide whether the recent stalling/sputterring of the D4-D engine is really worth the trouble or risk. Read more on that here

    If you dont want any headaches associated with the D4-D engine, either get the "J" vvti if on a tight budget or "G" vvti if within the budget. The "E" is available with the D4-D engine only
    thanks

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    #2940
    Quote Originally Posted by jimaroquai
    . Siguro tig-iisang Fortuner VVTI lang ang ipamimigay bawat proponent eh patay na ang bill.
    Innova d4d na lang ang ibigay.

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