Toyota Innova J gas or diesel?

[dr. d]

try this simplified computation re. gas vs. diesel:
i do 1,000 km mileage per month x 12 months = 12,000 km/yr. at 11 km/liter for my D4D, that's 1,091 liters diesel fuel a year. and at 46 kesos per liter, that's 50,186 kesos per year spent on fuel alone.
for gas, it's 8 km/liter. therefore, it's 12,000 km/yr dibay dibay 8 km/liter using the VVTi, that's 1,500 liters a year. at 55 kesos per liter, that's 82,500 kesos annual fuel expense.
82,500 - 50,186 = 32,314 kesos more fuel expense per year if you choose gas and not diesel innova. i use more oil than the VVTi, but then, i don't have to replace spark plugs.. put your maintenance expenses here..
it'll take just over 3 years for you to eat up the 100,000 keso difference between diesel and gas models.
now, the question on how you measure km vis a vis fuel: i just set my trip meter to zero at the start of the month, when my orange fuel low indicator lights up. then, i fill up and fill up and fill up, whenever my fuel gauge goes low. at the end of several cycles, when my fuel low lights up again, i simply read my trip meter and total the liters of fuel i filled up.. that way, i get X number of km traveled using Y number of liters fuel used up.

[markduguran]

actually budget talaga ang concern...inaasahan lang namin ung malaking discount na ibibigay ni bayaw if we plan go for the diesel.....according to him, the new innova will have no price increase..(thats good news!) pero zero discount pa muna.

[F-14]

try this simplified computation re. gas vs. diesel:
i do 1,000 km mileage per month x 12 months = 12,000 km/yr. at 11 km/liter for my D4D. . .

for gas, it's 8 km/liter..

Same "Innova" different variant, 4Kpl difference!

I disagree with this. Comparison seems fair if Kpl are the same.

[ericson21]

tama, alagaan mo lang sa regular PMS tatagal ang diesel or gas. pero mas makakatipid ka talaga sa diesel gaya ng PM ko sayo nung nag message ka TS. :D

sa pagpapa krudo sa di binabaha na gas station, di na ako naniniwala jan. sa pinagpapakargahan ko, maganda na gas station, (dun lang ako nagpapakarga talaga), hinding hindi binabaha, me tubig pa din krudo nila. so gawin mo na lang, replace fuel filter every 15k/10k PMS interval. nagpalit na ako fuel filter nung 15K PMS ko at sa next 25k PMS ko siguro ako magpapalit ulit nun.

kahit solved na ang D4D problems, kung di maalaga sa fuel filter, pwede ka pa din maapektuhan nun. kaya replace it regularly.

[markduguran]

Tama ka sir ericson...mas makakatipid ako sa diesel....

May I ask why do people usually says ......if you plan to use it for lessthan 5 years..better get the diesel...if not go for the gas.....we have not yet experienced any diesel fed vehicle in the family so no idea ako when it comes sa diesel fed vehicle after 10years or more....pero may kapitbahay kame they owned a 1995 toyota tamaraw fx (diesel). it was used everyday untill now....buhay pa naman and hindi pa nagagalaw ung engine...

[ericson21]

Tama ka sir ericson...mas makakatipid ako sa diesel....

May I ask why do people usually says ......if you plan to use it for lessthan 5 years..better get the diesel...if not go for the gas.....we have not yet experienced any diesel fed vehicle in the family so no idea ako when it comes sa diesel fed vehicle after 10years or more....pero may kapitbahay kame they owned a 1995 toyota tamaraw fx (diesel). it was used everyday untill now....buhay pa naman and hindi pa nagagalaw ung engine...

kasi siguro habang tumatagal mas mamahal ang maintenance dun and replacement parts? nasabi ko din sa isang post ko yun dito sa thread na to na pagka mga 3-5 years lang diesel eh, kasi medyo naisip ko din yun, pero sa alaga lang talaga sir, diesel all the way. :D

pero sa alaga lang yan talaga sir di ka mamomroblema talaga sa diesel. adventure ko 4 years na eh, diesel din, gulong pa lang napapalitan plate number lights sa engine wala pa ne isa. :D

[lowrider17]

Diesel get my vote. Eto kasi nagustuhan ni erpat kasi
1. mas mura ung diesel ngayon
2.Maintenance although medyo mahal regular change oil lang ok na, (no need for spark pulgs, tune up. etc)
3.Feel namin mas ok siya idrive kahit malakas ang ulan unlike gas na parang nilalamig.
4.pag nag warm up na engine nya tumatahimik
5.mas malakas torque nya

May oner din kami D4Diesel din(pang harabas) 1990 pa and still service pa rin ng tatay ko ngayon. tatagal naman diesel. Revo naman tita ko diesel din mag 8 years na and still running in good condition. Problem lang e yung fuel float w/c is talga daw sakit ng revo yun. napalitan lang timting belt nung nag 150000Km. OK din naman diesel as Ericsson said proper maintenance and PMS, maganda lang kasi sa VVti is timing chain ata siya which is self adjusting kaya no need to worry about(correct me if im wrong with this). Goodluck to you TS. Follow your heart.

[revoGSX]

sir.. personal vote ko is Gas J or E...easy to maintain in the long run..

anyway, ask ko lang, na-consider po ba ninyo all new 2012 avanza? it would probably take at least 6 years bago lumabas yung next model

yung current Innova (from 2005) is on the last generation na and baka po bigla lumabas yung "all-new" next year.. baka lang po hehe

[SEALANDER]

Matanong ko lang...bakit sinasabi ng iba na "mahirap" mag maintain ng diesel. Ano ba mahirap sa pag change oil, change fuel/air filter, rotate tires, check brakes etc. na ginagawa din sa gas variant as PMS? at pag more than 5 yrs gagamitin huwag diesel. Hindi ba tumatagal mga diesel engines? Eh bakit ung mga PUJ wala nga regular PMS pero tumatakbo pa din.

[cripple_rooster]

May I ask why do people usually says ......if you plan to use it for lessthan 5 years..better get the diesel...if not go for the gas.....we have not yet experienced any diesel fed vehicle in the family so no idea ako when it comes sa diesel fed vehicle after 10years or more....pero may kapitbahay kame they owned a 1995 toyota tamaraw fx (diesel). it was used everyday untill now....

In the long run, 10 years or more, diesels end up even better than its gasoline-powered counterparts. Sure, an engine overhaul is a little more expensive for a diesel engine, but considering the longer-lasting between overhauls, the wider interval between PMS (and also the absence of an electric ignition to be checked regularly and have cables, coils and spark plugs replaced) and a lower fuel consumption, diesel ends up as a better option. No wonder heavy-duty trucks and the PUJ's are diesel-powered...