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    #561
    Quote Originally Posted by luis_ View Post
    Pano ba tamang teknik... speed up to 80 then bitaw wait mag 75 then tapak ulit pabalik 80 or steady sa pedal?
    Quote Originally Posted by airolynx View Post
    No worries sir. Same question as the good sir above this post, how did you do it? Id like to try that on my Accent Hatch. Hehe
    From a stop, I step on the accelerator with moderate pressure to speed up the shifting until the highest gear (4th gear in my case), but not too much pressure - just enough to get it to shift at 2000-2500 rpm.

    Once I'm in my cruising speed of around 80 kph, I put as little pressure as possible on the accelerator. Think of it as squeezing a shampoo bottle as lightly as you can so that you only use a minimal amount of shampoo. I find that this is better than stepping on the gas hard, then coasting, then stepping hard again.

    On uphills, I try to maintain the same minimal pressure, but there are times that the speed drops to 60 kph which isn't very efficient anymore, so I apply a bit more pressure even if it means I'll have to rev a bit more. This is still more efficient than crawling at a low speed. On downhills, I still apply the same minimal pedal pressure as on a flat road, which means the car goes faster than 80 kph. I use that momentum so that I carry speed when I traverse the next uphill.

    When approaching toll booths, I coast from as far as 500-750m away so that by the time I reach the queue, I'm only doing 40-60 kph so I minimized my braking and hence my fuel use.

    Just a reminder though, it's a really, really boring drive to stay at 80 kph even if the road is completely empty. Everyone else will just overtake you. I find this kind of driving impractical since it makes my 2 hour trip a 3 hour trip, all for a few pesos of savings. I just do it to see how efficient my car can go, but it definitely isn't my kind of driving.

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    #562
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Lately my FC has been decreasing on the Altis (1.6L m/t). I'm doing 8.5 to 9.5km/L in the city and around 10.5km/L mix. Used to be +1km/L better and i'm attributing this to the summer heat and the traffic on my daily route which has gone worse... which is taking its toll on my patience so i'm heavier on the gas pedal too.
    Same here. I usually get a pretty consistent 8-8.5km/L with the Revo using the full tank method. My last full tank yielded only a comparably dismal 6.95km/L. I'm blaming it down to the increased aircon use. Its almost always at maximum nowadays and the rear A/C is almost always open when there are additional passengers. Are there any other factors in the engine that may cause additional fuel consumption?

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    #563
    ^^thanks.
    I always thought that pitik pitik was better than a la cruise control

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    #564
    Quote Originally Posted by luis_ View Post
    ^^thanks.
    I always thought that pitik pitik was better than a la cruise control
    Cruise Control is different - it adjusts throttle input to maintain speed. For example, if you maintain the same pedal pressure to stay at 80 on a flat road, you will inevitably slow down to about 60-70 on an uphill. With cruise control, it will increase throttle input to maintain 80 kph on an uphill.

    Pulsing the accelerator works well in light city traffic though. Just give enough throttle to make it to the next bottleneck or stoplight intersection, then rinse and repeat for every cycle of clear and clogged roads.

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    #565
    Avanza 1.3E AT 2014
    7.5km/L
    Commonwealth -> Katipunan -> BGC weekdays route ko
    highest FC ko so far 8km/L

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    Avanza 1.3E AT 2014
    7.5km/L
    Commonwealth -> Katipunan -> BGC weekdays route ko
    highest FC ko so far 8km/L

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    #566
    Just got back from bicol trip. I got 15.3 km/L on the midnight run on the way there with 4 adults and 1 kid. Pero on the way back it went down to 10.6 km/ L, factors are the extra weight going home. 1 adult snd 2 sacks of rice , ++ etc, and the slow down in the quezon area in the afternoon. Also using avanza 1.3. Normal city driving is only 8.5 km/l around qc.

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    #567
    Make & Model: Innova 2012 E DSL MT
    Fuel: Unioil (same station and pump)
    Method: Full Tank (matic)

    FC1: 15.015 Km/L (172.1 Km)
    100% highway
    Average of 80 Kph or 2K rpm
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    3 adults
    medium luggage

    FC2: 6.785 Km/L (23.3 Km)
    100% city, medium to heavy traffic
    4 adults
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    no luggage

    FC3: 13.284 Km/L (176.3)
    98% higway, 2% city
    Average of 100 Kph or 2.5K rpm
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    7 adults, 2 kids
    heavy luggage

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    Make & Model: Innova 2012 E DSL MT
    Fuel: Unioil (same station and pump)
    Method: Full Tank (matic)

    FC1: 15.015 Km/L (172.1 Km)
    100% highway
    Average of 80 Kph or 2K rpm
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    3 adults
    medium luggage

    FC2: 6.785 Km/L (23.3 Km)
    100% city, medium to heavy traffic
    4 adults
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    no luggage

    FC3: 13.284 Km/L (176.3)
    98% higway, 2% city
    Average of 100 Kph or 2.5K rpm
    Dual aircon & Radio on
    7 adults, 2 kids
    heavy luggage

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    #568
    Quote Originally Posted by luis_ View Post
    ^^thanks.
    I always thought that pitik pitik was better than a la cruise control
    What if the car is moving at 100KPH then cruise/clutch down, para bumaba RPM.. then gas ulit, then cruise/clutch down ulit?

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    #569
    Lowest rpm does not mean lowest consumption.

    The fact that you will have to repeatedly prod the pedal will consume more fuel as opposed to a steady input.

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    #570
    Bakit ganito ang FC na nacacalculate ng aCar app? Sa mga gumagamit nito, Anong need ko baguhin to reflect the correct FC? Thanks
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    #571
    Fortuner 2.7 G GAS A/T and Fortuner 2.5 G DSL M/T anyone?

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    #572
    Quote Originally Posted by sphinxz View Post
    Bakit ganito ang FC na nacacalculate ng aCar app? Sa mga gumagamit nito, Anong need ko baguhin to reflect the correct FC? Thanks
    As with any FC app:

    1. Record your beginning odometer reading
    2. Record your first fillup (doesn't really matter yet how many L since it's not counted)
    3. Drive around several hundred km
    4. Fill up again - take note in the app your current odometer reading, as well as how many liters you filled up. You will then get your FC computation.

    Sample:

    1. Full tank on June 1 (1000 km odo reading, 25L consumed)
    2. Drive around 500 km
    3. Full tank again on June 10 (1500 km odo reading, 40L consumed)

    Your computed FC will be 12.5 km/L.

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    #573
    Actually, ganyan naman ginawa ko.
    1. Record Full tank on Jun 3 (172.1 trip meter reading, 11.46L consumed)
    2. Drive around ~23Km
    3. Record Full tank on Jun 6 (195.4 trip meter reading, 3.434L consumed)
    4. FC should be 6.78Km/L as opposed to the 13.3 Km/L reflected in the app.
    5. Drive around ~176Km
    6. Record Full tank on Jun 7 (371.7 trip meter reading, 13.272L consumed)
    7. FC should be 13.28Km/L as opposed to the blank value reflected in the app.


    Also, i tried putting then removing a dummy entry on June 1. My June 3 entry's FC was removed (blank). Previously it was stated as 6.8Km/L which is also wrong.

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    Actually, ganyan naman ginawa ko.
    1. Record Full tank on Jun 3 (172.1 trip meter reading, 11.46L consumed)
    2. Drive around ~23Km
    3. Record Full tank on Jun 6 (195.4 trip meter reading, 3.434L consumed)
    4. FC should be 6.78Km/L as opposed to the 13.3 Km/L reflected in the app.
    5. Drive around ~176Km
    6. Record Full tank on Jun 7 (371.7 trip meter reading, 13.272L consumed)
    7. FC should be 13.28Km/L as opposed to the blank value reflected in the app.


    Also, i tried putting then removing a dummy entry on June 1. My June 3 entry's FC was removed (blank). Previously it was stated as 6.8Km/L which is also wrong.

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    #574
    Somehow resolved by putting a zero-zero entry before all valid entries. I was expecting the FC to be displayed on its own entry but instead, dun sa previous sya nakikita. Anyway, this will do. Thanks
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    #575
    We own a Toyota Innova 2015 J MT Dsl variant
    We always use a full tank method for measuring.
    We use our car for city driving from Taguig to UP Technohub QC everyday back and forth at around 12midnight runs.
    We also use our car for our monthly provincial travels from Taguig to Laguna to Batangas and back to Taguig.
    Our consumption plays around 11km/L for really hot days with aircon at full (front and back) and 12-13km/L with aircon at low.
    By the way, total capacity during trips ranges from 2-4 people including driver.
    Hope it helps!

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    We own a Toyota Innova 2015 J MT Dsl variant
    We always use a full tank method for measuring.
    We use our car for city driving from Taguig to UP Technohub QC everyday back and forth at around 12midnight runs.
    We also use our car for our monthly provincial travels from Taguig to Laguna to Batangas and back to Taguig.
    Our consumption plays around 11km/L for really hot days with aircon at full (front and back) and 12-13km/L with aircon at low.
    By the way, total capacity during trips ranges from 2-4 people including driver.
    Hope it helps!

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    #576
    Quote Originally Posted by sphinxz View Post
    Somehow resolved by putting a zero-zero entry before all valid entries. I was expecting the FC to be displayed on its own entry but instead, dun sa previous sya nakikita. Anyway, this will do. Thanks
    I checked my first entry, and ganyan din nga ginawa ko. 1.00L yung first entry. And yes the FC will display on the previous trip rather than the current one.

    Anyway, I switched to Road Trip for iOS cuz I see myself staying longer with iOS than with Android. And much more intuitive as usual ang iOS apps.

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    #577
    Around 5.5km/l to 6km/l purely c5 edsa makati qc driving for my toyota LC200.

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    #578
    Just had a full tank since my post here and my last computation is 7.8 km/l mixed driving. Mostly city.

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    #579
    Got a dismal 6.5km/L with the Revo. Full tank method, just a while ago. Summer heat is really taking its toll on fuel efficiency. Extended idling periods with aircon on have been quite commonplace as of late.

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    #580
    After a month and 3,725 km, here are my averages with my 2015 Altis 1.6G MT:

    City Driving: 8.26 km/L (MID average is 8.66 km/L, or 5% higher than actual)

    Highway Driving: 15.37 km/L (MID average is 14.16 km/L, or 8% lower than actual)

    Mixed Driving: 12.39 km/L (MID average is 12.42 km/L, less than 1% off)

    Overall average is 10.47 km/L (MID average is 10.63 km/L, which is just 2% higher). My trips comprised of 44% city, 19% highway, and 36% mixed driving.

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    (Solid lines are actual FC figures, dotted lines are MID readings)

Toyota Fuel Consumption Database