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    #1081
    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Buti kung myth. Ngayon parang lie na. hehehe.
    E ermats ko nga nde marunong mag-internet nabalitaan na nya na may problema Fortuner e... Baka Toyota + Diesel is not a good combination... Which may also mean Honda + Diesel is not a good combination...

    Kumbaga mga bagito sa Diesel Technology both brands unlike established Diesel engine manufacturers like Isuzu and Mitsubishi & Probably the Germans...

    Sana maglabas na sila ng 2nd gen D4D engines for the IMV project para hahaba na ulit pila sa Toyota... hehehehe

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    #1082
    Quote Originally Posted by isketi View Post
    Kung sa US 'to, nademanda na sila.
    IMO, pare-pareho lang yang mga car companies. Sa kabilang forum, gulping-gulpi na ang Honda dahil sa isang Civic with paint problems na sinisi nila sa bird droppings and exhaust smoke. They refuse to replace the car kasi raw "it doesn't impair the car's functionality".
    Dito sa Toyota, ang scapegoat naman nila is the diesel in our country. If we follow Honda's reasoning, dapat pala palitan na ng Toyota yang mga defective D4Ds kasi impaired na functionality nila (won't start, hard starting, stalling, etc.) but then, baka defective din yung maipalit.
    if we follow both the manufacturer's reasoning, then that'll only mean one thing: we have one hell of a mutated environment

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    #1083
    Quote Originally Posted by tsupermario View Post
    imho honda has a point in saying that a paint prob doesn't impair the car's functionality. but as for toyota? parang wala pako nababalitaan na nagc-claim for a refund.. its a legit ground for asking one, if we go by honda's reasoning as pointed out.

    kung refund malabo dito pa sa Pilipinas. usually replacement lang if found defective ang isang product. so in this case, new fortuner. but the problem even new fortuners puwede pa din magkarun ng D4D problem ...

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    #1084
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    if we follow both the manufacturer's reasoning, then that'll only mean one thing: we have one hell of a mutated environment
    Onli in da Pilipins, ika nga.:boo:

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    #1085
    Quote Originally Posted by bolantoy View Post
    toyota reliability is a myth.

    Myth nanaman yong isa nga na inumpisahan ko na thread ni-lock dahil sa MYTH baka ma lock din itong thread nato. joke

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    #1086
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    kung refund malabo dito pa sa Pilipinas. usually replacement lang if found defective ang isang product. so in this case, new fortuner. but the problem even new fortuners puwede pa din magkarun ng D4D problem ...
    it can happen but it entails going to court. then again, that's a risk in itself. i guess it all depends on one's priorities.

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    #1087
    Quote:Originally Posted by isketi
    Kung sa US 'to, nademanda na sila.
    IMO, pare-pareho lang yang mga car companies. Sa kabilang forum, gulping-gulpi na ang Honda dahil sa isang Civic with paint problems na sinisi nila sa bird droppings and exhaust smoke. They refuse to replace the car kasi raw "it doesn't impair the car's functionality".
    Dito sa Toyota, ang scapegoat naman nila is the diesel in our country. If we follow Honda's reasoning, dapat pala palitan na ng Toyota yang mga defective D4Ds kasi impaired na functionality nila (won't start, hard starting, stalling, etc.) but then, baka defective din yung maipalit.


    Uy, qualified sa Lemon award yan ah? sabihin nyo lang mga bossing and I'll come up with something similar to the other thread. It's not the whole bunch of fruit in the basket that we're after, it's that little yellow fruit that doesn't belong there which must be singled out. yun lang po

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    #1088
    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Quote:Originally Posted by isketi
    Kung sa US 'to, nademanda na sila.
    IMO, pare-pareho lang yang mga car companies. Sa kabilang forum, gulping-gulpi na ang Honda dahil sa isang Civic with paint problems na sinisi nila sa bird droppings and exhaust smoke. They refuse to replace the car kasi raw "it doesn't impair the car's functionality".
    Dito sa Toyota, ang scapegoat naman nila is the diesel in our country. If we follow Honda's reasoning, dapat pala palitan na ng Toyota yang mga defective D4Ds kasi impaired na functionality nila (won't start, hard starting, stalling, etc.) but then, baka defective din yung maipalit.


    Uy, qualified sa Lemon award yan ah? sabihin nyo lang mga bossing and I'll come up with something similar to the other thread. It's not the whole bunch of fruit in the basket that we're after, it's that little yellow fruit that doesn't belong there which must be singled out. yun lang po
    Go ahead bossing!! para alam din namin kung ano pa ang may mga lemon units here sa pinas.. Kasi panay ang tira sa fortuner eh which is good at least others are aware, pero I think meron din ibang units na may problema..By the way, do you have a particular unit na alam na to be considered as lemon?? Update as pre.

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    #1089
    Kanina i recieve a call from Mr Sanorias of TQA. Wala lang kinamusta yong unit ko syempre ok sabi ko. Sabi nya cge sir kinamusta ko lang kasi kung hindi pa maayos yan hahanap ulit ang Toyota ng Solusyon sa problema na yan.
    After maibaba ko ang phone bigla ko naiisip na mukhang trial and error ulit ang ginagawa ng mga taga Toyota. Pero sabi nya na mga Japanese mismo ang nag train sa kanila.Malamang ok na daw.

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    #1090
    peeps, marami pa bang namomoblema sa d4d? kasi kung isolated cases na lang malamang maging complacent na ang toyota. kasi kung more than 30% of all d4d owners ang may problem, nag-recall na siguro ang toyota.
    Last edited by beebs; September 1st, 2006 at 12:41 AM.

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