Toyota Avanza Owners & Discussions [ARCHIVED]

[Ludwig]

Many many thanks for the very informative reply. Happy driving!!

Always my pleasure! Glad to be of service.

[Picard]

Yes its the power to weight ratio. Para kayanin ng 1.3 engine magdala ng 7 tao, Toyota designed na yung gears ng Avanza maikli. Yung 1.5 konti lang difference in gearing sa 1.3. Advantage is that you have enough low end grunt to haul weight. Downside is FC. For a given engine speed, your road speed is slower. For example yung Avanza na either 1.3 or 1.5 MT at 100Kmh, yung engine mo isalready churning almost 4000 rpm na at 5th gear! Eh sa Vios its only 2,750 rpm at 5th gear. Sa Avanza AT its around 3000-3250 if am not mistaken. My guess is is that in the long run the 1.5 AT will be the most fuel efficient in the lineup.

Are you sure about the Vios 100kph* only 2750rpm? Sa Altis ko kasi 100kph is already a bit past 3000rpm * 5th gear..

[cpudle]

Picard,

Slightly OT:
For the Vios, if not 2,750rpm at 100kph, then it should be close. Its expected that the Altis (1.8L MT) requires a higher RPM for the same speed kasi its final drive ratio is is shorter (4.058) kesa Vios (3.777). Sorry I couldn't find the gear ratios for the 1.6 MT. Computations are adjusted for local stock tire diameters.

Here are some numbers including Avanza at 3000 RPM:

At 3000 RPM at 5th gear, road speed (KPH) is at:

Avanza 1.3MT = 80
Avanza 1.5MT = 85
Altis 1.8 MT = 104
Vios 1.5 MT = 108
Avanza 1.5 AT in overdrive = 97

[cpudle]

[quote=Ludwig;732289]Ahh, now I get it. That is exactly what I also noticed. I had been telling my wife that the first gear is practically useless. After about a second or two in first gear I have to shift na to second since the engine sounds loaded, and that the rpm needle is already registering a high value.
This is why I always read this thread. I learn something new each time! Thank you sir cpudle!

[quote]

No problem. I do the same too sa shifting . As soon as puwede na magupshift, kambiyo na ko kaagad. I can't wait to get to 3rd gear kasi at 1st and second, parang pagong yung kotse at low rpms.

[pablo_neruda]

Ayos na ayos! buhay na buhay talaga dito ah.

Hmmm... I'm just wonderin' hindi ba pwedeng diretso na sa 2nd gear coming from full stop kung citydriving lang naman? May effect ba yun sa FC or sa depreciation ng makina?

[Picard]

Picard,

Slightly OT:
For the Vios, if not 2,750rpm at 100kph, then it should be close. Its expected that the Altis (1.8L MT) requires a higher RPM for the same speed kasi its final drive ratio is is shorter (4.058) kesa Vios (3.777). Sorry I couldn't find the gear ratios for the 1.6 MT. Computations are adjusted for local stock tire diameters.

Here are some numbers including Avanza at 3000 RPM:

At 3000 RPM at 5th gear, road speed (KPH) is at:

Avanza 1.3MT = 80
Avanza 1.5MT = 85
Altis 1.8 MT = 104
Vios 1.5 MT = 108
Avanza 1.5 AT in overdrive = 97

I was just puzzled kasi if this is the case, in theory mas magiging mataas pala ang top speed ng VIOS kesa sa Altis. Tama nga ba? Unless mas mababa ang top allowable RPM ng VIOS. I've done 150kph with my 1.6 altis * around 4500rpm.

[ownertype]

Sabi ng SA ko hanggang ngayon wala pa din daw dumadating na units from the plant. December 9 pa ako nag pa reserve. So 1 month na pala ako waiting. I've checked other dealers in Metro Manila and it's true na na wala units available and mahaba na din daw ang pila ng mga nag pareserve.

Would you know kung ilan ang allocation ng plant sa mga dealers per vehicle, model and color? Or depende ba yan sa dami ng POs per dealer sa cut-off date na binigay ng planta?

Sorry guys medyo naiinip lang...TIA

[Ludwig]

Ayos na ayos! buhay na buhay talaga dito ah.

Hmmm... I'm just wonderin' hindi ba pwedeng diretso na sa 2nd gear coming from full stop kung citydriving lang naman? May effect ba yun sa FC or sa depreciation ng makina?

I've been tempted to do the same thing. Napansin ko na yan ang gawain ng mga taxi drivers sa Maynila. Galing sa full stop diretso na sa 2nd gear. Mga Toyota din hawak nilang unit. Siguro nga dahil sa short gearing e tinatamad na gumamit ng 1st gear, anyway 1-2 seconds lang naman shift na kaagad sa 2nd. Pero ako pinilit kong iwasan ang temptation.

Di ko sure pero malamang may masamang epekto yan sa transmission. Baka pati sa FC. Konting chaga lang at pasensya sa 1st gear ginagawa ko. Pero since sa adjustment na napost ko na ditong ginawa sa unit ko, mas swabe na yung masikip na low gears ko.

Sana may mas marunong na sumagot. hehe.

[akal]

Sabi ng SA ko hanggang ngayon wala pa din daw dumadating na units from the plant. December 9 pa ako nag pa reserve. So 1 month na pala ako waiting. I've checked other dealers in Metro Manila and it's true na na wala units available and mahaba na din daw ang pila ng mga nag pareserve.

Would you know kung ilan ang allocation ng plant sa mga dealers per vehicle, model and color? Or depende ba yan sa dami ng POs per dealer sa cut-off date na binigay ng planta?

Sorry guys medyo naiinip lang...TIA

ganun na ba katagal ngayon? anong branch ka? yung sa amin ay inabot din yata ng 3 weeks although pangalawa kami sa pila (TYT Shaw) medyo natatagalan dahil champagne color yung sa amin. kaya i think depende rin yan sa kulay. pinipilit kasi sa amin yung silver color which was readily available at that time (pre-christmas). hanggang ngayon wala pa rin akong plaka dahil wala pa raw cert of stock report.

[akal]

Ayos na ayos! buhay na buhay talaga dito ah.

Hmmm... I'm just wonderin' hindi ba pwedeng diretso na sa 2nd gear coming from full stop kung citydriving lang naman? May effect ba yun sa FC or sa depreciation ng makina?

i once tried do straight to 2nd gear shift from fullstop but the tendency is i always make high rev para di mamatayan ng engine. so it might in a way affect sa fc. so balik na lang ako ulit sa 1st gear para mas safe.