Innova A/T questions

[Gumusut_Amige]

So far its 6km/l. City Driving pa ang nagawa ko dito sa Cebu.

that's kinda' low. mine i started to get at 7.5km/l - Baguio traffic + uphill roads. now i got 9.5km/l mix city and hiway driving. btw, using the vvti G AT variant.

[woohoo]

bai attyallanlatras, how much km/l do you get with your Innova G vvti?

I agree with leonleon. I'm bit surprised with woohoo's Avanza at nalito nga ako eh... kasi yung mga subic hilux, land cruiser, etc are not jerky at all. yung mga mekaniko lang ang jerks. mali ang pagkakabit sa kickdown cable.

I don't know about other G A/T's, but mine is that way. Although nowhere near as jerky as the Honda Civic of my boss circa 1995-6... Di ka naman hahampas sa upuan sa Avanza ko (sa Civic ni Boss, halos magka-whiplash ka na. hehehe)... lalo na kung medyo mabilis ang pag-accelerate mo, para ka lang nag-shift sa M/T nang a-little-less-than-perfect.

[rion]

So far its 6km/l. City Driving pa ang nagawa ko dito sa Cebu.

nge... ang baba... baka you need to break in...

may kickdown cable pa rin ba yung innova? it's a cable connected to the accelerator pedal. usualy wrapped with orange rubber...

[vinj]

hi there vinj, my owners manual doesn't state the atf type, thats what i plan to do to see if there are changes.

Typical Toyota :P I'll try to check my altis manual for any info as chances are they would be the same IMO. Check also the dipstick for the ATF, some cars have the ATF type on it.

[bratski]

vinj,
i already checked the dipstick and it also doesn't state what atf is used. the atf fluid level is about 1/2. the transmission seems to stay in 1st gear longer than usual, in crawling traffic, the feeling is like driving a manual tranny (engaged in 1st gear and foot off the clutch pedal), when you release the gas pedal there's a jerking motion.

[woohoo]

vinj,
i already checked the dipstick and it also doesn't state what atf is used. the atf fluid level is about 1/2. the transmission seems to stay in 1st gear longer than usual, in crawling traffic, the feeling is like driving a manual tranny (engaged in 1st gear and foot off the clutch pedal), when you release the gas pedal there's a jerking motion.

Ay hindi naman ganyan yung Avanza ko. hehe. Smooth naman ang pag-decelerate niya, saka very gradual sa low gears.

[attyallanlatras]

nge... ang baba... baka you need to break in...

may kickdown cable pa rin ba yung innova? it's a cable connected to the accelerator pedal. usualy wrapped with orange rubber...

Indeed, my innova needs "break in" since last thursday pa nakuha ko from Toyota Cebu. And the ODO reads 170 pa. I still dont have time yet for long distance travel.

Regarding the kickdown cable, I'll check it out later.

[_Qwerty_]

yung avanza ko parang wala naman akong nakikitang problema sa 1st gear to 2nd gear.. usually nag change gear sya around 2,200rpm from 1st to 2nd gear..

*bratski - baka naman sobrang gaan nang tapak mo.. kaya mabagal sya mag shift?? subukan mo kaya ibaon nang konti.. tingnan mo kung mag shift sya agad..

[woohoo]

yung avanza ko parang wala naman akong nakikitang problema sa 1st gear to 2nd gear.. usually nag change gear sya around 2,200rpm from 1st to 2nd gear..

*bratski - baka naman sobrang gaan nang tapak mo.. kaya mabagal sya mag shift?? subukan mo kaya ibaon nang konti.. tingnan mo kung mag shift sya agad..

Mas magaan ang tapak ko sa iyo. Paki-subukan mo nga, bro, yung mabagal na acceleration, kung mararamdaman mo ang pag-shift... kahit minsan lang...

[bratski]

yung avanza ko parang wala naman akong nakikitang problema sa 1st gear to 2nd gear.. usually nag change gear sya around 2,200rpm from 1st to 2nd gear..

*bratski - baka naman sobrang gaan nang tapak mo.. kaya mabagal sya mag shift?? subukan mo kaya ibaon nang konti.. tingnan mo kung mag shift sya agad..

medyo magaan nga ako tumapak, dito ko ramdam yung shift ng 1st to 2nd, pag medyo binigatan ko apak hindi ganun ka jerky yung shifting. econo driving kasi ako lagi to see if hanggang saan ititipid ng innova. but still kahit anong gawin ko hanggang 6.5km/l city driving lang ang best effort ko.

[bratski]

actually ok lang naman sa akin yung pag upshift niya at 2k rpm thereabouts, what bothers me is during crawling traffic mas gusto niyang sa 1st gear lagi. kahit around 20kph ang takbo ko nag kickdown na agad siya sa 1st gear, sa ibang auto trannies kasi bihira mag 1st gear unless almost complete stop na yung car and pag sa bumper to bumper traffic nasa 2nd kadalasan to minimise the jerky motion. i cant help kasi but compare the innova's a/t to my other cars na parang smarter ang a/t's.

[_Qwerty_]

yup ramdam naman ang pag shift.. lalo na pag mabagal ang arangkada..

Mas magaan ang tapak ko sa iyo. Paki-subukan mo nga, bro, yung mabagal na acceleration, kung mararamdaman mo ang pag-shift... kahit minsan lang...

[woohoo]

Whew! I have decided nga to quicken my acceleration (kapag walang humps) nowadays, tutal sa primera lang naman...

But going back to topic:
*bratski: yun bang jerky motion sa primera, as in, parang male dog na kahit hindi na nakasakay sa female dog in heat, e, arya pa rin nang arya iyung balakang?

[vinj]

vinj,
i already checked the dipstick and it also doesn't state what atf is used. the atf fluid level is about 1/2. the transmission seems to stay in 1st gear longer than usual, in crawling traffic, the feeling is like driving a manual tranny (engaged in 1st gear and foot off the clutch pedal), when you release the gas pedal there's a jerking motion.

The '05 Innova of my uncle doesnt have that jerking problem, i experienced something like that with our old Sentra before. If you want to be sure on the ATF (havent checked my manual yet), best is to buy from the Toyota parts counter then and have your tranny flushed asap (if you can find a shop with an a/t dialysis machine like autotechnika then that would be helpful). did you also try switching the o/d(or is it power/eco mode) switches?

On the fuel consumption, driving in Cebu City is kinda thirsty to the car as it has a lot of stop and go driving with short distances (so it takes time to really break-in a car).

Sana nga it's just a flush and fill job needed and that the previous owner did not overhaul it or something.

[bratski]

Whew! I have decided nga to quicken my acceleration (kapag walang humps) nowadays, tutal sa primera lang naman...

But going back to topic:
*bratski: yun bang jerky motion sa primera, as in, parang male dog na kahit hindi na nakasakay sa female dog in heat, e, arya pa rin nang arya iyung balakang?

ay hindi naman ganun kagrabe hehehe, naiinis lang kasi ako dahil nagtatagal siya sa first gear, sa stop and go traffic nakakainis yun kasi pag binitawan mo gas pedal nag jerk ng konti, tapos pag apak uli ag jerk siya uli.sa ibang a/t transmissions kasi sa stop ang do traffic alam nung transmission to shift in 2nd earlier kasi nga jerky masyado pag nakababad sa 1st gear. yung expy ko kahit less than 20kph ang takbo nag sesegunda na sa stop and go. same with my old cvt city na hindi ramdam ang shifting at walang jerky motion. ang problem lang naman sa stop and go, pag maluwag naman yung streets medyo ok naman siya

[vinj]

On a sidenote, i drove again my Tito's '05 diesel a/t and i just noticed that it does shift to 1st gear at 20kph or below; irregardless of pedal touch. When accelerating very slowly from stop it shifts up to 2nd gear at 10kph. I guess the only reason why its not too noticed is that its not too jerky as what you're experiencing.

[bratski]

vinj,
weird thing, the jerky shifting suddenly disappeared, shifting from 1st t 2nd can still be felt though not as jerky as before 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th you can hardly feel the upshifts. hope the problem wont come back again hehehe, just a precaution im replacing my atf. problem is up to now i dont know what atf type i have hehehe

[vinj]

vinj,
weird thing, the jerky shifting suddenly disappeared, shifting from 1st t 2nd can still be felt though not as jerky as before 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th you can hardly feel the upshifts. hope the problem wont come back again hehehe, just a precaution im replacing my atf. problem is up to now i dont know what atf type i have hehehe

*fingers crossed*

If your ride has less than 40k on odo then chances are you're running on the original ATF; best is to just buy that !*$%!#$*V Toyota Type whatever ATF they sell at the CASA (shouldnt cost much IMO, won't hurt to give them a call to inquire) .

Try also running your a/t through the gears manually from time to time. Check also your throttle cable adjustment, if its tight then its more sensitive to pedal inputs (can help improve throttle response a bit though).

[attyallanlatras]

*fingers crossed*

If your ride has less than 40k on odo then chances are you're running on the original ATF; best is to just buy that !*$%!#$*V Toyota Type whatever ATF they sell at the CASA (shouldnt cost much IMO, won't hurt to give them a call to inquire) .

Try also running your a/t through the gears manually from time to time. Check also your throttle cable adjustment, if its tight then its more sensitive to pedal inputs (can help improve throttle response a bit though).

For two weeks now I experienced that my Innova G a/t is jerky. Since my car os still brand new and and ODO nya is still around 400, what should I do? Definitely the ATF must be the original and I cannot change it to Toyota ATF (sold at casa). So what can I do with it?

Another thing, what do you mean when you say "Try also running your a/t through the gears manually from time to time." Paano gawin yan? By the way, I'm new at this, so please bear with me. thanks

[vinj]

Running it manually through the gears: shift the car from L-2-3-D while driving around (akin to driving a manual). If its jerky, since yours is still new and under warranty, best to go to the Toyota CASA and bring up the issue with them.