All new Toyota Rush/ Daihatsu Terios

[Vodka]

Wrong. Those two longitudinal rails together with cross members are the hallmarks of a ladder frame or body on frame chassis. Monocoque frames do not typically have a contiguous rail running from the front all the way to the back. You are saying that the Rush is not "body on frame" simply because it does not have a traditional body bolted on a frame like PPVs do. But for all intents and purposes, if you bothered to even look at the Avanza's or Rush's complete frame and not just the part of where you took a picture of, you can clearly see that the body design is indeed ladder frame. Bolted on or not does not really matter. Even the part you pictured already shows the undercarriage parts attached to the longitudinal rails and cross members. That should have been a dead giveaway of what it really is. It's a monocoque implementation of essentially a truck/pickup body. That's needed because the platform is intended to be an economic people carrier with a small engine and not a full blown SUV.

I think the term "hybrid" is rather apt.

just had PMS for my ecosport. it has the same monocoque frame as the Rush. same monocoque frame in my sedans

ecosport isn't "body on frame"

rush isn't "body on frame"

sedans aren't "body on frame"

gets mo na?

[CarWithGarage]

I think it is called Unibody frame not Monocoque.


just my 2 cents.

[Woof]

just had PMS for my ecosport. it has the same monocoque frame as the Rush. same monocoque frame in my sedans

ecosport isn't "body on frame"

rush isn't "body on frame"

sedans aren't "body on frame"

gets mo na?

Wrong again. Those "rails" that you point out are not contiguous with the ones you see in front. The rails you see in front either slant towards the side sills or terminate at a cross member below the passenger cabin. The rear ones you see are separate pieces that are attached to the back of the passenger cage. They are not single continuous rails that run from the front to the rear (aka longitudinal rails). The Avanza/Rush has those two signature longitudinal rails. The pieces you highlighted are not rails, they are structural members of that particular model's monocoque design.

Please, we can have a discussion without you being condescending.


PS: Bro, parang may tagas near sa fuel tank area mo ah. The bottom of the flooring looks wet.

[Vodka]

sorry i'm just annoyed by this "body on frame" claim so let's put it to rest for good

so here's the avanza "chassis". as you can see it's made of SEPARATE PIECES that are spot-welded together. this "chassis" cannot stand alone so it still relies on the rest of the body to achieve rigidity. that's why these pieces are spot welded onto the rest of the body.

this is exactly what a monocoque is

if you look under a typical sedan you'll see pretty much the same thing, with minor variations

under no circumstances can this be called "body on frame". it simply isn't





PS don't worry bro wala naman leak. wala lang undercoating yung darker sections...

[yapoy86]

Para sa akin simple lang.. kung pwede i-angat yung body sa chassis.. body-on-frame yun.. kung naka incorporate yung chassis sa body. Monocoque yun. MONO means ONE..

Yung rush para sa identification ko ay monocoque design kasi di mo pwede i-lift yung body from the chassis like sa pick-up or suv or auv

[Vodka]

Para sa akin simple lang.. kung pwede i-angat yung body sa chassis.. body-on-frame yun.. kung naka incorporate yung chassis sa body. Monocoque yun. MONO means ONE..

Yung rush para sa identification ko ay monocoque design kasi di mo pwede i-lift yung body from the chassis like sa pick-up or suv or auv

finally someone who understands

[ShortRider]

5 Car Chassis Types
(5 Car Chassis Types | DoItYourself.com)

Whether you are building a car from scratch or are simply interested in the bodywork of a car, recognizing different types of car chassis can prove beneficial. This can also be of assistance in helping you to choose the correct type for the car.

1 – Ladder
A ladder frame car chassis is a common type of frame used as a base for vehicles, creating a solid base from the shape that the name suggests.

2 – Backbone
A substantial central component is necessary for a backbone car chassis, connecting the front and rear of the entire frame.

3 – Monocoque
A monocoque car chassis is one that uses metal that is molded from sheets of the material, which is the same method used to build other parts of the frame. This type of chassis is similar to a unibody type.

4 – Space
A space chassis can also be known as tubular even though it is not tubular in the true sense. The components are welded together to create a strong frame that comprises some flexibility.

5 – Combination
You will often find that a car chassis is not any single types, taking elements from a range of different types to create a version that is best suited to the car frame.


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[Woof]

sorry i'm just annoyed by this "body on frame" claim so let's put it to rest for good

so here's the avanza "chassis". as you can see it's made of SEPARATE PIECES that are spot-welded together. this "chassis" cannot stand alone so it still relies on the rest of the body to achieve rigidity. that's why these pieces are spot welded onto the rest of the body.

this is exactly what a monocoque is

if you look under a typical sedan you'll see pretty much the same thing, with minor variations

under no circumstances can this be called "body on frame". it simply isn't





PS don't worry bro wala naman leak. wala lang undercoating yung darker sections...

Never insisted it was body on frame. What I said is that it's a monocoque implementation of a ladder frame design. So I agree with you that it is a monocoque body - just that it is of a ladder frame design. The confusion arises from the conventional understanding that ladder frame = body on frame. Which in this case is not.

Our little discussion here is probably the exact reason why so many are also confused. Search the following complete with quotation marks: "built-in ladder frame" monocoque body

It is apparently a thing...

[Bon23]

I just really wished they used a slightly bigger engine really as that would have done wonders for the Rush and their pockets too haha

Come on toyota you could have done better than that haha

You could have obliterated all the competition in this segment if you used a bigger engine. Tsk tsk tsk, all that "Rush", only to come up short.

[Lin Dan]

I just really wished they used a slightly bigger engine really as that would have done wonders for the Rush and their pockets too haha

Come on toyota you could have done better than that haha

You could have obliterated all the competition in this segment if you used a bigger engine. Tsk tsk tsk, all that "Rush", only to come up short.

Or they could just have priced the Rush sub 900K. Just my 2 cents.