All New 2013 Toyota Vios (3rd Gen)

**dr. d** · September 26th, 2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. d

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perhaps chyll2's response (#8207 above) qualify..
but really.. the internet is years full of "information" declaring that using higher octane fuel than what the manufacturer recommends, is a waste of money.
what i do know, is that sometimes the engine is a little "out of whack". you know.. too advanced ignition timing... overheating engines.. cylinders so full of crud that their compression ratios are significantly higher.. these types of engines do benefit from higher octane fuel use, because it prevents pre-ignition.

i used to have an older, non-toyota car. the manual says i can use as low as 91 octane. which i did. but from time to time, going up a steep ramp, the engine does knock a bit.. so i just turn the aircon off, and the knock disappears.

i suppose, knowing what your car can and can not do, and what you want it to do, helps in determining what fuel the user will choose to use.

**mcdip** · September 26th, 2015 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by AkoiTORYe

Thank u sir. Protection nga sa engine bay lalo sa pusa. Meron ba bad effect ito sa wear and tear ng engine lalo hindi makalabas ang init unlike kung bukas lang?

less drag and noise isa na rin sa karagdagang aspeto no worries about ventilation kasi may air intake at outtake naman and for now mas pansin ko mas malinis ang engine bay ko at wala na rin un mga balahibo ng pusa, i got peace of mind kht na sumayad ako sa nga humps kc well protected yung ilalim ng engine ko lalo nanun oil pan ko

**dartz** · September 26th, 2015 12:05 PM

Guys normal pa ba yung pagtunog ng break creaking sa left side ng driver seat (front left wheel) kapag napreno ka in situation like idle to go then stop or slow moving traffic then break mag 4 months na yung 1.3E AT ko. Nung una di ko pinapansin sabi kasi ng Tito ko normal daw yun kasi bago pa ang break. Odo reading is 3800+ km

**dr. d** · September 26th, 2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dartz

Guys normal pa ba yung pagtunog ng break creaking sa left side ng driver seat (front left wheel) kapag napreno ka in situation like idle to go then stop or slow moving traffic then break mag 4 months na yung 1.3E AT ko. Nung una di ko pinapansin sabi kasi ng Tito ko normal daw yun kasi bago pa ang break. Odo reading is 3800+ km

check, sir.. is the sound coming from the left front wheel, or is it coming from under the driver's flooring?
my innovas are like those. it's not coming from the wheel, but from under, somewhere.. and i have long ago given up on it. it does not affect drive-ability..

also, is it possible, the sound is coming from the driver's seat itself? perhaps a mounting bolt is loose.. just tighten it, sir. madali lang yan. and if you are lucky, the dealer/manufacturer will have included a wrench inside the tool pouch, that fits the bolt.

**chito2011** · September 27th, 2015 09:45 AM

Question, bakit ni re recommend ng service advisor ang engine flushing pag nag pa pa change oil tayo? Tapos pag kinuwestyon mo ay sasabihing kailangan daw talaga yun...

**dr. d** · September 27th, 2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chito2011

Question, bakit ni re recommend ng service advisor ang engine flushing pag nag pa pa change oil tayo? Tapos pag kinuwestyon mo ay sasabihing kailangan daw talaga yun...

no, engine flush is not necessary. i always decline, and my warranties are still intact.
if it were necessary and i declined, the warranty will have been void then and there.

just decline nicely, "bossing, huwag na lang.. medyo bilang ang budget namin today..".

so why recommend it? increased income... on their part! and, well... some people believe in it.. some... don't.

quripot talaga si dr. d...

**chito2011** · September 27th, 2015 04:08 PM

May nabasa kasi ako, sir na it will do more harm than good sa makina natin esp. kung wala naman syang ipa flush

**dr. d** · September 27th, 2015 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chito2011

May nabasa kasi ako, sir na it will do more harm than good sa makina natin esp. kung wala naman syang ipa flush

just like in medicine... it is right or it is wrong, "depending on what you read.."

and i don't seem to understand the statement... "wala namang ipa flush"

**midnytwarrior** · September 28th, 2015 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by chito2011

May nabasa kasi ako, sir na it will do more harm than good sa makina natin esp. kung wala naman syang ipa flush

Flushing is not necessary. Actually, noong araw hinde rekomendado ng mga casa yan mga flushing & additives.
Ang importante is regular ang maintenance mo and you are using the recommended oil viscosity grade & API rating para sa sasakyan mo.
Ang langis ay kompleto na sa mga detergents at additives para bigyan ng sapat na proteksyon ang engine.
Mag dedepende na lang sa driving habits mo at tamang pag maintain ng sasakyan.

Yan engine flush na yan may mga kemikal yan. Basically petroleum based then at ang malaking porsiyento nito ay kerosene.
Pag hinalo yan sa engine oil at pinaandar ang engine, lahat ng pinupuntahan ng engine oil ay pupuntahan din nyan. Then pag nag drain eh yun nasa oil pan or oil sump lang ang lalabas, may mga langis langis na maiiwan sa ibang siksik na area na contaminated na ng engine flush.
Then pag nilagay mo na yun new engine oil then makokontaminate na rin sya.

HTH

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Originally Posted by chito2011

May nabasa kasi ako, sir na it will do more harm than good sa makina natin esp. kung wala naman syang ipa flush

Flushing is not necessary. Actually, noong araw hinde rekomendado ng mga casa yan mga flushing & additives.
Ang importante is regular ang maintenance mo and you are using the recommended oil viscosity grade & API rating para sa sasakyan mo.
Ang langis ay kompleto na sa mga detergents at additives para bigyan ng sapat na proteksyon ang engine.
Mag dedepende na lang sa driving habits mo at tamang pag maintain ng sasakyan.

Yan engine flush na yan may mga kemikal yan. Basically petroleum based then at ang malaking porsiyento nito ay kerosene.
Pag hinalo yan sa engine oil at pinaandar ang engine, lahat ng pinupuntahan ng engine oil ay pupuntahan din nyan. Then pag nag drain eh yun nasa oil pan or oil sump lang ang lalabas, may mga langis langis na maiiwan sa ibang siksik na area na contaminated na ng engine flush.
Then pag nilagay mo na yun new engine oil then makokontaminate na rin sya.

HTH

**dr. d** · September 28th, 2015 08:43 AM

engine flush is just like binabanlawan ang labada.
tinatanggal ang bakas ng luma at maruming oil, para pagbuhos ng bagong langis ay wala nang lumang langis na madumi.
some believe in it, others do not.

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engine flush is just like binabanlawan ang labada.
tinatanggal ang bakas ng luma at maruming oil, para pagbuhos ng bagong langis ay wala nang lumang langis na madumi.
some believe in it, others do not.