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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    What does the power retract rear view mirror mean in the specs? Do they mean the side mirror?


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    I think so and nakakatawa din na pinagmamalaki pa nila yung "cowl integrated windshield washers" LOL Since 2006 ganyan na ang mga washers ng mga sasakyan tulad ng civic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    I think so and nakakatawa din na pinagmamalaki pa nila yung "cowl integrated windshield washers" LOL Since 2006 ganyan na ang mga washers ng mga sasakyan tulad ng civic.
    Totally agree what were they thinking? Why do they have to put it as a featured specs? My teener CRV 14yo have already those.

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    Parang the features are lacking and if you get just below TOTL (1.6 to 1.7m) price point parang mas sulit offers ng mitsu at Ford (GLS premium and Trend).

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    I mean other than performance boost and aesthetic upgrade, ano advantage ng new Fort sa luma? Kung available pa lumang units and at a discount baka at a certain price point Naka TOTL ka na versus a Middle ground 2016 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    I mean other than performance boost and aesthetic upgrade, ano advantage ng new Fort sa luma? Kung available pa lumang units and at a discount baka at a certain price point Naka TOTL ka na versus a Middle ground 2016 model.
    Toyota is not giving discounts, AFAIK.... other than what they're giving now... [Well, of course, nothing is permanent]

    They're confident that both will sell at their respective [current] pricing schemes....


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    Quote Originally Posted by coydeleon View Post
    I mean other than performance boost and aesthetic upgrade, ano advantage ng new Fort sa luma? Kung available pa lumang units and at a discount baka at a certain price point Naka TOTL ka na versus a Middle ground 2016 model.
    You said it already, that's the advantage

    Pero kung practical ka naman talaga and the outgoing model is offered for a big discount, I will go for the outgoing model.

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    Are you guys serious, bago is bago bro..

    It's not just going from point A to point B.

    Marami new car buyers na may parpektong tumatakbo na sasakyan, kaya bumibili yan ng bago kasi..alam niyo na yun

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    marami ring kumportable naman sa medyo luma nguni at maganda pa ring kotse nila... na hindi bibili ng bago dahil lang may bagong modelong mabibili..

    and yess.. toyota is not famous for giving huge discounts for their outgoing models.
    why would they, when they know very well that the car will sell even with only minimal discount..

    so the question remains... just how much better is the new fort? it'll probably take a few weeks or months, before the new owners trickle in their opinions..

    sundan ang susunod na kabanata!
    Last edited by dr. d; January 15th, 2016 at 09:39 AM.

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    Pag bigla sumipa ang benta ng Montero at Everest in the next few weeks....

    alam na

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    Well the jury is out on how much of performance boost you're getting if any, and if it matters. Kasi IMO (admittedly flawed mind you) the competition is leaps and bounds better than their previous model (everest). Is the new Fort that much of an upgrade? I guess that remains to be seen

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    Based on the spec sheet I have, the rear brakes are...... Drum brakes!! For all variants ito

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Based on the spec sheet I have, the rear brakes are...... Drum brakes!! For all variants ito
    what is the difference between disc brakes and drum brakes in terms of performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by br733 View Post
    what is the difference between disc brakes and drum brakes in terms of performance?
    Disc brakes have more stopping power thus shorter stopping distance. Better heat dissipation. Also Better on flooded conditions than drums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Disc brakes have more stopping power thus shorter stopping distance. Better heat dissipation. Also Better on flooded conditions than drums.
    thanks for clarifying ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Disc brakes have more stopping power thus shorter stopping distance. Better heat dissipation. Also Better on flooded conditions than drums.
    These are true in theory, but in practice when used as rear brakes, there's virtually no difference.

    First, the bulk of the braking work is done by the front brakes. Most of the car's weight shifts forward when braking, stressing the front brakes and leaving the rear brakes with a minimal impact. I have an Altis G with rear drum brakes, and we previously had an Altis 2.0V with 4-wheel disc brakes. Absolutely no difference in braking power - the Altis G feels even more secure when braking due to the better suspension (less weight shift in the 11th gen vs 10th gen).

    Better heat dissipation only matters when you drive the car very hard, for a very long time. Again, my firsthand experience has shown me that even when you take a spirited on mountain roads for a few hours, the brakes don't fade, even if I used a car with rear drum brakes. The only time I experienced brake fade was when I drove an AT Vios 1.5 with 4 on board across the Marilaque highway without using much engine braking. But tell me, how many PPV-owners ever subject their cars to that kind of driving? The most extreme case you'd find is going downhill from, say, Baguio. Definitely not enough to cook your brakes unless you're fully loaded and refuse to engine brake (but then, even a Montero/Everest with 4-wheel discs will also experience brake fade under those conditions).

    When passing through floods, yes, discs have an advantage because they dry up faster. But again, remember, it's the front brakes that do most of the braking, and all cars today have front discs. Also, regardless of what rear brakes your car has, it's prudent to check your brakes after crossing a flood, and pumping them until they regain normal stopping power before speeding up.

    So yes, I agree with vinj that rear discs are really mostly an aesthetic advantage than a tangible, functional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by br733 View Post
    what is the difference between disc brakes and drum brakes in terms of performance?

    Under normal conditions, nonewhatsoever.

    Under extreme conditions (towing, track, mountain roads), better heat dissipation for the discs.

    As for me, i don't care really given my type of use but of course rear discs are nice to stare at.

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    As per Toyota bgc girls. March pa ang units sa dealership.

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    With an improved engine having 343Nm of torque for the outgoing 4x2G fortuner, sulit na sulit ito. P1.4M pero yung proma because of the hood scope aakalain mo na yung dating TOTL na V eh. Parang yung GLS V SE na may P200K discount. Kahit old model, at least brand new!

    Ito best selling na SUV right now imho. Kaya na-overtake nang Fort MS in the past year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    As per Toyota bgc girls. March pa ang units sa dealership.
    So March pa natin pwede ma test-drive? Bakit parang ang tagal naman --- 2 months after launch? Is that the norm?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but yun sa Montero parang nauna pa nga yung mga units available na sa showroom kahit di pa na launch formally? Tama ba?

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    Pag fortuner tail lights maganda pag yung isa pangit. Hehe. Alam nyo na anong brand yung naka tear drop tail lights na pag naka side view ganyan din itsura ng tail light. Hehe
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