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    #251
    Kayang-kayang iwanan ng TDCI Focus AT yung FT86 AT...

    FT86 is not built for speed.

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    #252
    Those Toyota people are cruel. There's a full page ad and review for the 86 in today's Phil Star and when I call to inquire, "no stock available" pa rin ang reply. That's like ogling at the Playmate of the Month. You can look but you can't have her.

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    #253
    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Kayang-kayang iwanan ng TDCI Focus AT yung FT86 AT...

    FT86 is not built for speed.
    Ginawa mo namang legendary yung Focus. Keep in mind that it's got much less horsepower and is heavier than the GT-86.

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    #254
    An advantage in Torque will propel you fast in the beginning, But a high HP will prolly get you there faster.

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    #255
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Ginawa mo namang legendary yung Focus. Keep in mind that it's got much less horsepower and is heavier than the GT-86.
    Even if (emphasis on "if") a Focus TDCI is faster than an 86, that's like saying "my sister cooks better than my girlfriend."
    Last edited by JackFlash; July 11th, 2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    #256
    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Kayang-kayang iwanan ng TDCI Focus AT yung FT86 AT...

    FT86 is not built for speed.
    Not really.

    A Focus TDCi PS will almost... almost match an MX-5 for roll-on performance, but can't keep up with it.

    A stock TDCi PS with "135 hp" (actually 150 hp), does 100 km/h in 8.7 seconds. The TDCi 6MT in around 8.3.

    In my own tests, an MX-5 with 170 hp does 100 km/h in just 7.5 to 8 seconds.

    The GT86 (the FT was the concept) has more torque and more horsepower than the MX5, and weighs some 200 kilograms less than the TDCi... it's a no-brainer which would be faster.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #257
    Why do i get the feeling the 86 will go same way as the SiR with plenty of haters, with the way some are comparing it with cars of different class. And I'm quite sure many will try to race it and post their exploits, and how they left the 86 behind using their econoboxes (whether true or otherwise is a different matter altogether)

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    #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Why do i get the feeling the 86 will go same way as the SiR with plenty of haters, with the way some are comparing it with cars of different class. And I'm quite sure many will try to race it and post their exploits, and how they left the 86 behind using their econoboxes (whether true or otherwise is a different matter altogether)
    I don't think it will be anything like the SiR. 1st is its too expensove for ricer wannabees. 2nd is supply will be very minimal as Toyota and Subaru IMO is doing a Harley. Always keeping supply below demand para mas may kilig factor.

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    #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    I don't think it will be anything like the SiR. 1st is its too expensove for ricer wannabees. 2nd is supply will be very minimal as Toyota and Subaru IMO is doing a Harley. Always keeping supply below demand para mas may kilig factor.
    Yerp. Can't afford nyan ang mga matatabang kalbo na naka japeyks na Oakley.

    Joke lang.

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    #260
    I think Toyota should not have launch it with only 77 units available supply which are already taken even before they arrive. Its not a limited edition only car. Its not even near a Porche. Im afraid they hype it up to much just like Facebook did with its IPO. So on the 2nd year.... Im sure there will be a lot of supply.

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