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    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/SIZE]Gov’t urged to lift ‘coding’
    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2]By ELISA OSORIO
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    With the dwindling number of vehicles on the road because of the high cost of fuel, there may be no more need for the number coding traffic scheme.

    "It was supposed to be a temporary measure because the government could not think of other ways to ease traffic, but now I don’t see the need anymore," Sergio Ortiz-Luis, Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) chairman, said.


    "Because of high oil prices, people have started taking public transportation and traffic has been reduced considerably," he said in an interview.


    Data from the Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) showed that the number of cars used in Metro Manila went down by 10 percent in June from the previous month’s figure.


    "If we have to see something positive in the rising prices of oil then maybe it’s the decrease in travel time for motorists," Ortiz-Luis surmised.


    Since January, diesel and gasoline prices have increased by P16 per liter. Oil companies said they still need to recover P8 to P10 per liter given the runaway prices of crude in the world market.


    Oil companies have been raising their prices almost every week. Pump prices rose for the 18th time this year last Saturday.


    The continued weakening of the peso against the dollar has also affected fuel prices.


    Flying V chairman Ramon Villavicencio has proposed a one-time increase in fuel prices of P10.


    Consumer and Oil Price Watch chairman Raul Concepcion said diesel prices could even reach P70 by the end of August. Current diesel price is P54 per liter.
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    Source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage...StoryId=124524


    Time to sell our 'coding cars'? Higher gas prices isnt too bad after all...
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    hmmm. if the government will lift coding, will the makati government oblige?

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    Yeah good question. Actually I dont need a coding car if Makati has the 10am - 3pm window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo123 View Post
    Time to sell our 'coding cars'? Higher gas prices isnt too bad after all...
    Think of it... Car prices on the 2nd hand market would drop as more and more people cannot afford to use their cars due to high fuel prices. This is exactly why large engined vehicles (like the Ford Expedition) are so cheap on the used car market.

    So its sell soon or suffer a sudden drop in used car prices.

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    True that about large engined vehicles. 400-500k nets you an Expedition, and for 2nd gen Pajeros the diesels actually fetch much more than the V6s.

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    nah. i think the more na dapat may coding para lalong bumawas ang gagamit ng sasakyan at kunsumo ng gas, this is of course if the system really works. lifting the coding may just encourage some people to bring their cars. pwedeng i-lift ang coding sa public transport kasi more people are commuting.

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    hindi maganda ito...wag na nilang alisin...

    in my opinion tingin ko mas ok pa na alisin na sa kalsada ang mga kotse na mahigit 20 yrs old na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    hmmm. if the government will lift coding, will the makati government oblige?
    I don't think so, Makati is a Republic and has its own Gov't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiter View Post
    nah. i think the more na dapat may coding para lalong bumawas ang gagamit ng sasakyan at kunsumo ng gas, this is of course if the system really works. lifting the coding may just encourage some people to bring their cars. pwedeng i-lift ang coding sa public transport kasi more people are commuting.
    The traffic coding hasn't really worked as intended because people (over the years) have adjusted by buying a "coding car".

    Time to lift it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullz View Post
    hindi maganda ito...wag na nilang alisin...

    in my opinion tingin ko mas ok pa na alisin na sa kalsada ang mga kotse na mahigit 20 yrs old na.
    What about those of us who faithfully keep our old vehicles in good running order?

    Why do we have to replace our vehicles if they are still good and not negatively contributing to the environment and traffic flow? Not all of us can afford to get newer vehicles hence we really take care of the one we have.

    My rig is half way to the 20 year mark but is just as good or maybe slightly better than when it came out. Why must I give it up?

    In my opinion, you can most likely apply the 20 year rule those vehicles that seem like they are only held together by the dirt on the body and similar conditions. Once this is applied, a LOT of vehicles will already be removed from the streets.

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    Won't work for me I doubt the Republic of Makati will comply. I still favor coding since I really didn't notice the volume difference anyway...

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    ^^ same here... i really don't go to office during my coding day. hehehe. part of the perks of telecommuting....

    speaking of prices of high fuel consuming cars, yes... V6 units today are really cheap... in fact, i've seen a V6 2004 Grand Vitara being sold for only 330,000. negotiable pa. but the price of a 2004 Hyundai Getz also fetches the same price...

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    You know what lets buy up those gas guzzlers tapos ipa-LPG nalang natin... Yan ang tinatawag mong bargain hunting

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger View Post
    What about those of us who faithfully keep our old vehicles in good running order?

    Why do we have to replace our vehicles if they are still good and not negatively contributing to the environment and traffic flow? Not all of us can afford to get newer vehicles hence we really take care of the one we have.

    My rig is half way to the 20 year mark but is just as good or maybe slightly better than when it came out. Why must I give it up?

    In my opinion, you can most likely apply the 20 year rule those vehicles that seem like they are only held together by the dirt on the body and similar conditions. Once this is applied, a LOT of vehicles will already be removed from the streets.
    taasan ng tax. that way,only people who know what they are doing would keep such vehicles(specially the w123 and VW lovers like me). i wonder how they do it in japan and other countries though...lets face it,theres just too much derelict cars running in our streets...

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    I have suggested this on another thread, but IMO the best way to cut traffic is to ban car financing all together. All new cars should be paid in full. IMO that will be the most effective way of cutting traffic more than numbering schemes nor gas prices itself. Its just an idea because I know it will never happen given the banking industry makes a lot of money out these loans (they make almost double the price of the car on a 60 month loan and only 20% downpayment) and the strong banking lobby in politics.

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    tama! meron na talaga mga tao pang coding na oto... yung iba nga sa 2nd hand market -- "low milage kasi pang coding lang" hehehe

    good idea to demolish the financing plan for cars pero tama din na it's not going to work...

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    I don't think its a good idea to lift the coding scheme. Coding scheme in place = less traffic = maximum fuel savings.

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    ask ko lang po. ang mga areas so far that don't have the window (10am-3pm) are makati, pasay, paranaque and las pinas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batangmahal View Post
    ask ko lang po. ang mga areas so far that don't have the window (10am-3pm) are makati, pasay, paranaque and las pinas?
    Makati and Pasay lang. Kahit sa balita yun lang naman binabanggit. Kung hulihin ka sa Paranaque at Las Pinas na yun ang dahilan, i-contest mo. Malamang buwaya yun.

    Back to topic, agree with GH. There's a decent amount of people who have "coding cars" these days so in essence wala na rin talaga silbe.

    Pero based from the article... how SMALL is 10% of traffic volume here in the metro? Parang di ko ramdam eh. Every same day papuntang work ganun pa rin.

    Mari-realize ko lang na umoonti ang volume kapag yung after ng NICHOLS Exit ng SLEX northbound eh pag mga 6-8am ng weekdays eh wala ng pila. Ibang klase eh, mapa-30/liter or 60/liter ang gas, traffic pa rin. Paano ko mapapansing umoonti kung ganun?

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    Anong walang traffic ang pinagsasabi nila?....

    Noon lang Sabado,- inabot kami ng halos isang oras para lang maka-cross ng intersection sa may Coastal Road/Coastal Mall, from LPC going to Manila.....

    Kagabi naman, halos 30minuto ang inabot namin bago maka-left turn papuntang BF Paranaque near Santos Village coming from Sucat Road (from SLEX) dahil ang pobreng traffic policeman,- mina-manu-mano ang traffic sa intersection at hindi sinusunod ang traffice light..... Hay naku!

    Sobra pa rin ang traffic!

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