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    #2601
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    I open the front bonnet hood of my Suzuki APV, intending to pour distilled water for the radiator. I need to make sure where to pour it. Need help. Also how often should I do this routine? I drive daily with aircon. Where I see dripping water which is normal. I'm not seeing dripping water this time, hence I think I need to pour in distilled water into the radiator correct?
    i don't suzuki, but,
    the radiator filler cap is obvious, po. it's the metal one on top of the radiator tub. the other filler caps for the other liquids, to either side, are made of (bright) plastic.
    it should be in the owner's manual, it being a DIY... the manual should also warn, that it may be opened only with caution, and when engine is not hot. as in, first thing in the morning, if i may suggest.

    some autorithies say that because today's engine blocks are metal alloys, coolant is the prefered liquid. it has anti-oxidation additives.
    but i confess, i also used to use plain water.

    the only water drip allowed, sir, are from the condensed water around the aircon's tubings, and from the evaporator drain under the dashboard (it has a plastic tubing draining out under the car or engine bay.) . dripping from the radiator or overflow reservoir, is not a good sign.

    good luck.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 16th, 2019 at 10:17 AM.

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    #2602
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i don't suzuki, but,
    the radiator filler cap is obvious, po. it's the metal one on top of the radiator tub. the other filler caps for the other liquids, to either side, are made of (bright) plastic.
    it should be in the owner's manual, it being a DIY... the manual should also warn, that it may be opened only with caution, and when engine is not hot. as in, first thing in the morning, if i may suggest.

    some autorithies say that because today's engine blocks are metal alloys, coolant is the prefered liquid. it has anti-oxidation additives.
    but i confess, i also used to use plain water.

    the only water drip allowed, sir, are from the condensed water around the aircon's tubings, and from the evaporator drain under the dashboard (it has a plastic tubing draining out under the car or engine bay.) . dripping from the radiator or overflow reservoir, is not a good sign.

    good luck.
    I think I used wrong term. And also it's not for the radiator. I see the coolant color green and it is within ok level. However, im seeing this "windscreen washer fluid" and I intend to pour distilled water here. Now I'm a bit puzzzled coz I never used wiper fluid ever since it is summer. I somehow associated the aircon dripping water after a trip to this windshield water. But I don't aircon uses the water in windshield, does it? So if daily trip, seeing small drips due to aircon... Eventually water is going to run out. Where do i pour distilled water for this aircon if ever it is needed...?! I open hood today coz I am no longer seeing drips via aircon after a trip. I thought there is no more water.

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    #2603
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    I think I used wrong term. And also it's not for the radiator. I see the coolant color green and it is within ok level. However, im seeing this "windscreen washer fluid" and I intend to pour distilled water here. Now I'm a bit puzzzled coz I never used wiper fluid ever since it is summer. I somehow associated the aircon dripping water after a trip to this windshield water. But I don't aircon uses the water in windshield, does it? So if daily trip, seeing small drips due to aircon... Eventually water is going to run out. Where do i pour distilled water for this aircon if ever it is needed...?! I open hood today coz I am no longer seeing drips via aircon after a trip. I thought there is no more water.
    fill to the mark. these fluid reservoirs have "full" markings. peruse the owner's manual, po.

    the water dripping from the aircon, comes from water vapor in the air, condensing into liquid around the aircon tubings. don't worry about it. it will never stop nor run out.

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    #2604
    U know, when u drink a cold beer and the glass surface becomes wet because its hot out and ur beer is very cold?

    The table where u place ur drink becomes wet and it bothers u.

    That's the same scenario for ur aircon drips.
    Just leave it alone. Its nature at work.

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    #2605
    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    U know, when u drink a cold beer and the glass surface becomes wet because its hot out and ur beer is very cold?

    The table where u place ur drink becomes wet and it bothers u.

    That's the same scenario for ur aircon drips.
    Just leave it alone. Its nature at work.

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
    What's the best practice when fuelling APV. Do you find better performance sticking to just one brand. (petron vs shell) or switching after sometime?!

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    #2606
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    What's the best practice when fuelling APV. Do you find better performance sticking to just one brand. (petron vs shell) or switching after sometime?!
    in my non-suzuki car, "parang pare-pareho lang".
    i get the cheaper and/or more convenient stations.

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    #2607
    Hi, question. What is the exact part no. of 2012 Suzuki APV AT Oxygen Sensor? From reading there are 2 oxygen sensors, before and after catalyst. So do I have to change both?

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    #2608
    Quote Originally Posted by allanma View Post
    hi, question. What is the exact part no. Of 2012 suzuki apv at oxygen sensor? From reading there are 2 oxygen sensors, before and after catalyst. So do i have to change both?

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    #2609
    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfire_28 View Post
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    Thanks rapidfire. Are there 2 oxygen sensors in our APV? If yes, should i replace both?

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    #2610
    [QUOTE=allanma;3105190]Thanks rapidfire. Are there 2 oxygen sensors in our APV? If yes, should i replace both?

    Need hejp on my Suzuki APV manual, won't start. This unit is new, odo reading 6000. Yesterday 6pm it won't start but I sense the battery is still strong. This morning, I tried again and it won't start but I sense a rapid decrease in battery I no longer hear the fan. I only see dashboard led. Yesterday, when it won't start but battery still strong, this video I see the meter moved and u can also hear clicking sound. Now, bat is rapidly decreased. Yesterday I only tried 5 times when I surrendered baytery was still strong and I just ride taxi. I need help

    Aaa - YouTube

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    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105387]
    Quote Originally Posted by allanma View Post
    Thanks rapidfire. Are there 2 oxygen sensors in our APV? If yes, should i replace both?

    Need hejp on my Suzuki APV manual, won't start. This unit is new, odo reading 6000. Yesterday 6pm it won't start but I sense the battery is still strong. This morning, I tried again and it won't start but I sense a rapid decrease in battery I no longer hear the fan. I only see dashboard led. Yesterday, when it won't start but battery still strong, this video I see the meter moved and u can also hear clicking sound. Now, bat is rapidly decreased. Yesterday I only tried 5 times when I surrendered baytery was still strong and I just ride taxi. I need help

    Aaa - YouTube
    In this video Aaa - YouTube noticed the meter moved which is VERY UNUSUAL I am sure this is a tell. Due to rapid decrease in battery I suspect a short? Where? Can anybody tip me what happened?

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    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105387]
    Quote Originally Posted by allanma View Post
    Thanks rapidfire. Are there 2 oxygen sensors in our APV? If yes, should i replace both?

    Need hejp on my Suzuki APV manual, won't start. This unit is new, odo reading 6000. Yesterday 6pm it won't start but I sense the battery is still strong. This morning, I tried again and it won't start but I sense a rapid decrease in battery I no longer hear the fan. I only see dashboard led. Yesterday, when it won't start but battery still strong, this video I see the meter moved and u can also hear clicking sound. Now, bat is rapidly decreased. Yesterday I only tried 5 times when I surrendered baytery was still strong and I just ride taxi. I need help

    Aaa - YouTube
    now, that's strange.
    why would the speedometer needle rise when the starter is activated?
    and is that the sound of a starter that does not engage into the flywheel?

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    #2613
    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105388]
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post

    In this video Aaa - YouTube noticed the meter moved which is VERY UNUSUAL I am sure this is a tell. Due to rapid decrease in battery I suspect a short? Where? Can anybody tip me what happened?
    This pic is yesterday IMG219829172659 — imgbb.com

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    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105390]
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post

    This pic is yesterday IMG219829172659 — imgbb.com
    The two tells are: 1)The meter moved during cranking and clicking sound. 2) Rapid decrease in battery I notice this morning.

    I was reading last nite and thought "engine flooding". In the morning, the bat level is drastic decreased. This is not engine flooding I expect strong battery level.

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    [QUOTE=dr. d;3105389]
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post

    now, that's strange.
    why would the speedometer needle rise when the starter is activated?
    and is that the sound of a starter that does not engage into the flywheel?
    In that video that is the sight and sound when it failed to start while cranking

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    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105392]
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    In that video that is the sight and sound when it failed to start while cranking
    the video left much to the ear and to the vibrations.
    you should be able to determine, you being the howner, whether the starter was engaging or not.

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    #2617
    [QUOTE=dr. d;3105396]
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post

    the video left much to the ear and to the vibrations.
    you should be able to determine, you being the howner, whether the starter was engaging or not.
    What about the speedometer moving is that tell us anything? And 8 hours later now the battery is drastically weak I did not expect this. I own previously Suzuki multicab and I have witness bat, engine issues. The battery draining this fast tells me this is electrical issue

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    #2618
    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105403]
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    What about the speedometer moving is that tell us anything? And 8 hours later now the battery is drastically weak I did not expect this. I own previously Suzuki multicab and I have witness bat, engine issues. The battery draining this fast tells me this is electrical issue
    That clicking sound , will not initiate any vibration. This is no crank no start problem

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    #2619
    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105403]
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    What about the speedometer moving is that tell us anything? And 8 hours later now the battery is drastically weak I did not expect this. I own previously Suzuki multicab and I have witness bat, engine issues. The battery draining this fast tells me this is electrical issue
    the starter is the most potent battery-drainer in the car.
    it is just a tab lower than an outright short-circuit.
    using it many times, can drain a perfectly new battery.

    but that speedometer needle... first time i'd seen something like that.

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    #2620
    [QUOTE=typelogic;3105404]
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post

    That clicking sound , will not initiate any vibration. The cranking did not even reach that point.
    it seems, the starter just spinned but did not engage the flywheel.

    if you car is MT, try push-starting it. if you succeed, then it's your starter system that's at fault. but that's "a good thing", because your starter system has only a few parts.
    you might have to re-charge the battery first.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 30th, 2019 at 09:39 AM.

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