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    #2541
    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfire_28 View Post
    2500 pesos of gas at 43 pesos per liter. Total consumed of gas is 58.13 liters. That falls to 10.8 liters. From QC to Cabongaoan beach back en forth the to alaminos hundred islands then back to QC. This might not good for some but I heard some apv do only 7-8kms/l.
    When did you went to Cabo beach? I'm exactly looking for someone who has been there recently as we will be celebrating our wedding anniversary there next week. How is the road going there? Sang resort kayo nagstay?

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    #2542
    Quote Originally Posted by yubby24 View Post
    When did you went to Cabo beach? I'm exactly looking for someone who has been there recently as we will be celebrating our wedding anniversary there next week. How is the road going there? Sang resort kayo nagstay?
    We went there last Dec. we stayed at our relatives place about 26km from burgos. Very nice beach though, I cannot say its white sand it's more of beige sand. Take time also on walking through the so called dead pool area

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    #2543
    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfire_28 View Post
    We went there last Dec. we stayed at our relatives place about 26km from burgos. Very nice beach though, I cannot say its white sand it's more of beige sand. Take time also on walking through the so called dead pool area
    Malakas ang alon sir nung nagpunta kayo? Okay ba sya for 2 year old kids? Plano namin sa Roven's Place pumunta.

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    #2544
    Bought a Suzuki APV GA last Dec. 06, 2018. It had an odo reading of 15 when I started the engine myself for the first time. I am meticulously tracking fuel consumption:

    DATETIME PERLITER AMOUNT LITER ODOMETER
    2018-12-06T11:31:50 P48.35 P1352.35 27.97 15
    2018-12-06T11:31:50 P48.35 P500 10.34 15
    2018-12-15T12:58:06 P49.52 P1701 34.35 260
    2018-12-23T18:24:56 P50.05 P1737.44 34.71 550
    2019-01-01T11:00:00 P46.72 P1000 21.40 870

    I'm keeping every gas receipt as evidence.

    The table above is record this way:
    1) When I first got the vehicle, the odo reading was 15. I had to have my first gas of 10.34 liters which came from a free P500 coupon from Suzuki Cebu shop. And then, I spent an additional P1352 (or 27.97) liters. The PERLITER column is the price at the moment of gas.

    2) So, when I next have a gas, I jot down the date, the cost per liter, the current reading in the odo, and the expended amount.

    In this way, i can exactly track fuel consumption.

    Road condition is flat and moderately traffic route from Cebu,Mandaue to IT Park back and forth Mondays to Fridays which is a total of 20KM as per in the odo.

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    #2545
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    Bought a Suzuki APV GA last Dec. 06, 2018. It had an odo reading of 15 when I started the engine myself for the first time. I am meticulously tracking fuel consumption:

    DATETIME PERLITER AMOUNT LITER ODOMETER
    2018-12-06T11:31:50 P48.35 P1352.35 27.97 15
    2018-12-06T11:31:50 P48.35 P500 10.34 15
    2018-12-15T12:58:06 P49.52 P1701 34.35 260
    2018-12-23T18:24:56 P50.05 P1737.44 34.71 550
    2019-01-01T11:00:00 P46.72 P1000 21.40 870
    2019-01-08T15:36:25 P50.16 P2041 40.69 1100

    I'm keeping every gas receipt as evidence.

    The table above is record this way:
    1) When I first got the vehicle, the odo reading was 15. I had to have my first gas of 10.34 liters which came from a free P500 coupon from Suzuki Cebu shop. And then, I spent an additional P1352 (or 27.97) liters. The PERLITER column is the price at the moment of gas.

    2) So, when I next have a gas, I jot down the date, the cost per liter, the current reading in the odo, and the expended amount.

    3) I do my gas when the pointer is almost hitting the lowest line, but not yet empty.

    In this way, i can exactly track fuel consumption.

    Road condition is flat and moderately traffic route from Cebu,Mandaue to IT Park back and forth Mondays to Fridays which is a total of 20KM as per in the odo.
    The alwaysupdated link of this data can be viewed here apv_gas_odo.txt - Google Drive

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    #2546
    I just came back from a road trip of 3 adult passengers and 1 kid to Aspen Heights, Cebu Consolacion. It has lot of steep (~30+ degrees) and blind curves uphill road. Having both combinations at the same time, It's the blind curves that's challenging more than the steep. Was able to made the climb on 1st gear.

    While in uphill climb position, I made a stop at the guard house gate (with engine still on), to ask the guard. And when I was about to move on, I release the brake and then step on the gas pedal while my left foot slowly releasing the clutch, the engine made a high revs up sound but the car descended backwards as my clutch release timing and gas pedal push timing did not match. I panic and hit on the hand brake and engine died. The guard put a block on the rear wheel, and I start the engine and move on. It was a scary experience, fortunate that the next car behind me is 3 meters. I felt that I must have move backwards by 1 meter!

    I tend to release the clutch slowly, while my right foot push on gas pedal because my impression is that if I release the clutch right away, the engine would die. Need some tips on uphill driving conditions like this.

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    #2547
    if i were the car behind, i would stay a lot more than 3 meters behind.

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    #2548
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if i were the car behind, i would stay a lot more than 3 meters behind.
    Is there a vehicle feature (what type of vehicle, with manual transmission), that will brake or lock the position in one direction while at the same time allowing it to move in the other direction.

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    #2549
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    Is there a vehicle feature (what type of vehicle, with manual transmission), that will brake or lock the position in one direction while at the same time allowing it to move in the other direction.
    well, there is the hill-assist feature.
    but i do not know if any of the locally available cars have it.
    can it be grafted onto a car that was not originally designed for one? i do not know.

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    #2550
    experience lang ang makaka-turo talaga on what to do in situations like those bro. you have the basic knowledge naman so it's just the application of what you've undergone.

    if that was me, i'd practically floor it then timpla na lang w/ the clutch sabay alalay sa handbrake. i grew-up driving on manual trannies w/o those modern hill assist features and it was a literally a baptism of fire for me in the trafficky overpasses of the magallanes interchange of edsa.

    mind you, when i was a senior in high school and then eventually on to college there were times na ang displacement ng engine ng 3 cylinder car na dala ko was barely 800 cc lang ( the underrated suzuki fronte ).
    Last edited by baludoy; January 12th, 2019 at 11:34 PM.

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    #2551
    Quote Originally Posted by vikoy View Post
    Sir may Mitsubishi MAVEN na ba dyan? kamukhang kamukha sya ng APV naiba lang ang Grill pinalitan nila ng kamukha ng Adventure. 1.5L MPI yung makina.
    So I read in wikipedia the Mitsubishi Maven is a Suzuki APV re-branding. But I have not seen any Mitsubishi Maven here in Cebu city.

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    #2552
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    experience lang ang makaka-turo talaga on what to do in situations like those bro. you have the basic knowledge naman so it's just the application of what you've undergone.

    if that was me, i'd practically floor it then timpla na lang w/ the clutch sabay alalay sa handbrake. i grew-up driving on manual trannies w/o those modern hill assist features and it was a literally a baptism of fire for me in the trafficky overpasses of the magallanes interchange of edsa.

    mind you, when i was a senior in high school and then eventually on to college there were times na ang displacement ng engine ng 3 cylinder car na dala ko was barely 800 cc lang ( the underrated suzuki fronte ).
    Thanks for the input. I am curious, if that uphill experience that I just had would still be the same had I driven a Fortuner or a Jimny.

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    #2553
    ^ i reckon the outcome would still be similar if the dance between your clutch pedal and your accelerator stomper weren't in tune.

    the bottomline is that you just have to have your wits about you whenever you drive because the conditions around you will always be dynamic. more so when the vehicle you drive is equipped w/ a manual tranny - w/c requires a bit more attention to detail when compared to driving a car w/ a slushbox.

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    #2554
    Quote Originally Posted by typelogic View Post
    Thanks for the input. I am curious, if that uphill experience that I just had would still be the same had I driven a Fortuner or a Jimny.
    because the fort (diesel, i presume) has more torque, it would probably be easier.

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    #2555
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    because the fort (diesel, i presume) has more torque, it would probably be easier.
    Let me respectfully add po doc. .if the clutch is still nowhere near it's biting point. . . No amount of torque would.let it creep forward. . . . It would still need to be a choreographed play between the clutch and accelerator pedals

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    #2556
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    Let me respectfully add po doc. .if the clutch is still nowhere near it's biting point. . . No amount of torque would.let it creep forward. . . . It would still need to be a choreographed play between the clutch and accelerator pedals

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    yespo.
    granted.
    but between good torque but poor clutch, and poor torque and poor clutch...
    AT is nice...
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 13th, 2019 at 11:57 AM.

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    #2557
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    AT is nice...
    heh heh.

    100% on that doc

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    #2558
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ i reckon the outcome would still be similar if the dance between your clutch pedal and your accelerator stomper weren't in tune.

    the bottomline is that you just have to have your wits about you whenever you drive because the conditions around you will always be dynamic. more so when the vehicle you drive is equipped w/ a manual tranny - w/c requires a bit more attention to detail when compared to driving a car w/ a slushbox.
    In retrospect now, I would agree that it boils down to the timing between clutch pedal and accelerator pedal because as I now remember it was not much effort on 1st gear after it moved. I guess, I just have to correctly time the clutch release and the accelator push. I mistakenly thought, that ABS is meant for cases like I had.

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    #2559
    Mga peeps,

    How to know na palitin na ang drum brake pads ng APV natin?

    TIA

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    #2560
    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfire_28 View Post
    Mga peeps,

    How to know na palitin na ang drum brake pads ng APV natin?

    TIA
    i don't APV, but
    the tried and true method, is to have the drum opened up and see the brake shoes, po. it's de cajon. just ask the mechanic to do it, while you watch. most of them can do it half-asleep. you can also DIY, if you are "fit" and possess basic automotive knowledge.
    some cars have peepholes built into them, but i personally prefer opening. that way, they can be adjusted, they can be cleaned, and potential issues might be gleaned early enough.
    consult the manual or google, for the minimum pad thickness.
    Last edited by dr. d; February 1st, 2019 at 02:03 AM.

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