Strut Bar Question???

[Jolam143]

Mga sir pasensya na po sa tanong na to???

Ano po ba ang function nitong strut bar??? Plano ko kasing painstall nito sa ride ko.... But of course, first I wanted to know what benefits will i derive from this gastusin.... :D

[DSM619]

Strut bars makes n helps ur ride more stabilized on the road . makes the chassis more rigid and strong .

[OTEP]

It lessens the flex of the body structure of the car. Kasi kapag sobrang hard cornering, the mounting points of the suspension (which is the monocoque structure) tends to flex. Flex can lead to poor tire contact during these situations resulting in ill handling.

That's why nilalagay ang strutbar to minimize flex.

Siyempre during extreme driving lang iyon. The rest of the time, it just makes your car look cooler. hehehe.

[Karding]

...the flexing of the body structure can also lead to cracked windshield windows. The last time I went to a Canyon Run with my fella Suby owners, I can hear my windshield flexing as we take the hard turns in Angeles Crest Highway. Front strut bar lang ang wala kaya nag flex, naglagay na din ako sa harap, di ko pa nasubukan ulit kung mag flex pa.

Also, I believe a stiffer swaybar will give you a better handling benefits than the strut bar. In addition, you can barely notice a difference kung strut tower bar lang ang ilalagay mo. Gaya ng sabi ni OTEP, eye candy lang. Depending on your car din kung which (front or rear muna) ang uunahin mong ilagay na stru tower bar. For instance, yung Subaru ko nilagay ko muna ng rear bago front. Why? yung strut top kse ng Suby ko malapit sa Firewall ng chassis so yung firewall is acting as an aid for chassis stiffness. Whereas sa rear, naked talaga na walang support ang strut top. For Honda? I think front strut bar muna dahil masyadong malayo sa firewall yung strut top.

Again, hindi natatapos ang suspension mod sa strut tower (unless na pang cool effect lang ang trip mo.) If you are just gonna throw on a front strut tower bar and nothing else(good tires won't even matter) you most likely will feel nothing. You'd be just a person showing off an"eye candy". If other aspects of susp. have already been addressed, then this will "TIE" things up nice.

Other aspects of Suspension Package that I have:
Whiteline Front Strut Bar
Whiteline Rear Strut Bar
Whiteline adjustable 22-24mm rear swaybar
Whiteline Heavy-duty rear swaybar bracket
Whiteline heavy-duty rear swaybar mount
MRT Alloy rear endlinks
TEIN Super Street full coil-over suspension

[ssaloon]

TEIN Super Street full coil-over suspension

inggit ako ehehe :D

[Jolam143]

Sir Otep at Boss Karding which of these kaya ang uunahin ko... Yung front or rear strut bar???? BTW my ride is a 95 corolla

kasi every day I negotiate this downward sloping sharp curve on my way to the office and at this point I have to decelerate from 90+ to 40 or something kasi parang tumilapon ako pakanan.... nauunahan tuloy ako ng mga opis mates ko..... ok pa naman ang under chassis na ride ko... pati suspension....

will a front and rear strut bar solve the problem????

One more thing saan ba inilagay itong rear strut bar???

Again thanks mga sir

[OTEP]

Baka malakas ang understeer mo. Normal naman yun sa mga front wheel drive. Si Karding siguro ang may solusyon diyan kasi hindi ako suspension tuner. Hehehe.

Yung front strut bar ikinakabit sa ibabaw ng shock towers sa loob ng engine compartment. Kung makakahanap ka ng OEM strutbar mas maganda kasi 3-point ang connection nito for more rigidity. Yung rear strut bar sa ibabaw din ng rear shock towers. They will have to cut a slit in your carpeting. Hindi ko lang alam kung merong STB para sa likod ng Corolla.

[baiskee]

do you guys reco to put a rear strut bar na rin?

[caloyski5]

kung hindi kumakarera, hindi ko recommend maglagay ng rear..sa harap nalang para maporma my opinion po

[Karding]

Originally posted by Jolam143
Sir Otep at Boss Karding which of these kaya ang uunahin ko... Yung front or rear strut bar???? BTW my ride is a 95 corolla

kasi every day I negotiate this downward sloping sharp curve on my way to the office and at this point I have to decelerate from 90+ to 40 or something kasi parang tumilapon ako pakanan.... nauunahan tuloy ako ng mga opis mates ko..... ok pa naman ang under chassis na ride ko... pati suspension....

will a front and rear strut bar solve the problem????

One more thing saan ba inilagay itong rear strut bar???

Again thanks mga sir

Swaybar ang kailangan mo kapatid. Stiffer rear swaybar will reduce understeer. looks like stiffer na ang front mo kaya ka nag understeer. Nakukuha din sa alignment ang pag reduce ng understeer. Dial-in more negative upfront than the rear (I have -1.5 Front and -0.75 rear.) You can also increase the front tire psi in 2.5 increments and reduce the rear. Maraming ways to reduce and increase understeer/oversteer. Eto ang guidelines, some of this may be applicable to your car. Like kung wala kang adjustable damping force ng shocks mo, eliminate mo na yung step na yon. Kasi ang front ko is Softer than the rear.

TO REDUCE UNDERSTEER or INCREASE OVERSTEER:

Front tires:
- Increase tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Increase Section Width
- Lower the Aspect Ratio
- Reduce front tread depth

Rear Tires:
- Reduce tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Reduce section width
- Install higher aspect ratio tires
- Increase rear tread depth

Front Wheels:
- Install wider wheels
- Install lighter wheels

Rear Wheels:
- Install narrower wheels
- Install heavier wheels

Front Alignment settings:
- Dial in more negative camber
- Dial in More toe-out
- Dial in more positive caster

Rear Alignment settings:
- Dial in more positive camber
- Dial in more toe-out (Same as front)

Anti-Sway bars:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear

Spring rates:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear

Shock absorbers:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear

Suspension Bushings:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear

Brake Proportioning
- Reduce Front brake pressure
- Increase rear pressure

Weight Distribution
- Reduce front weight
- Increase rear weight

Aerodynamics:
- Increase Front Downforce
- Reduce rear downforce

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TO REDUCE OVERSTEER or INCREASE UNDERSTEER:

Front tires:
- Decrease tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Decrease Section Width
- Install higher Aspect Ratio tires
- Increase front tread depth

Rear Tires:
- Increase tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Increase section width
- Reduce aspect ratio
- Decrease rear tread depth

Front Wheels:
- Install narrower wheels
- Install heavier wheels

Rear Wheels:
- Install wider wheels
- Install lighter wheels

Front Alignment settings:
- Dial in less negative camber
- Dial in less toe-out (to toe-in if needed)
- Dial in less positive caster

Rear Alignment settings:
- Dial in less positive camber
- Dial in less toe-out (Same as front)

Anti-Sway bars:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear

Spring rates:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear

Shock absorbers:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear

Suspension Bushings:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear

Brake Proportioning
- Increase Front brake pressure
- Reduce rear brake pressure

Weight Distribution
- Increase front weight
- Decrease rear weight

Aerodynamics:
- Reduce Front Downforce
- Increase rear downforce