Zafra Motors Banawe (horror story??)

**cast_no_shadow** · June 26th, 2013 03:43 PM

Hello just like would like to ask lalo na sa mga experts natin dito.

im half hearted if sa goon squad ko ba ito ilalagay, since related sa suspension kaya dito ko muna nilagay.

heres the story.

My brother bouth a 2nd hand '05 altis earlier this year.

minsan nagagamit ko din pag nag swap kami ng car.

napansin ko lang when driving it is may kabig yun manibela, lalo na pag pumepreno ka.

may sounds ka din nadidinig from under i don't know if sa shocks or saan one thing im sure is suspension related problem.

since holiday nung monday, my brother decided to have it checked sa zafra sa banawe (suspension experts daw!)

ayun the mechanic figured out na sira na daw mga bushing sa front.

in short eto ang mga ginawa.

Parts

-2 suspension bushing 2,960

Labor: they charged him 2,900 eto mga ginawa:

Replacement of suspension arm bushing
camber correction
wheel alignment

so all in all naka 5860 siya.

makatarungan ba yun? presyo?

i have no idea na ipapagawa niya pero sabi ko para na siyang hinoldap ng zafra.

tama lang ba or over priced?

**crazy_boy** · June 26th, 2013 03:48 PM

OEM ba yung parts?
pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.

**vinj** · June 26th, 2013 04:07 PM

Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

**cast_no_shadow** · June 26th, 2013 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

OEM ba yung parts?
pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.

OEM that im not sure. unfortunately drive lang din alam ni utol like me and mas ignorante yun mabilis maniwala sa mekaniko

Originally Posted by vinj

Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

haven't tried driving the car again para maikumpara ko kung nawala yung mga observations ko.

so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?

**vinj** · June 26th, 2013 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow

so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?

Kung palit bushing with a replacement bushing + alignment/camber... mahal.

**uls** · June 26th, 2013 06:44 PM

no doubt TAGA yan

**cast_no_shadow** · June 26th, 2013 10:54 PM

P*t*ng ina! Kagabi pa ako nabibwisit sabi ko holdap ang nangyari. Confirmed nga.

Mods pakilipat nga ng goon squad hehe

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**uls** · June 26th, 2013 11:46 PM

libre naman ang silip eh

so pwede ka muna magpasilip sa suspension/alignment shop

they'll tell you ganito ganyan ang kailangan palitan

then you go to a shop na nagbebenta ng piesa (baka diyan bumibili ang suspension shop so may patong pa)

ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area

pag tapos palitan ang mga piesa punta ka na sa suspension/alignment shop. so alignment lang gagawin doon

**uls** · June 26th, 2013 11:51 PM

btw, pa-confirm mo din sa ibang tao kung talaga sira na mga piesa

yung suspension shop syempre gusto kumita so kahit di pa sira piesa sasabihin kailangan na palitan

**vinj** · June 27th, 2013 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by uls

libre naman ang silip eh

Sa kotse lang? :D

But yeah, charge this to experience i guess. Unless you're really familiar with the shop/mechanic already and are almost sure of the damage, do get a second opinion.

In my case, when i tend to do "preventive" work as well so if some suspension bits and pieces are to be changed on my daily drive, sinasamahan ko na rin ng tie rods, rack ends, etc. to make the take-down worthwhile.