Zafra Motors Banawe (horror story??)

[cast_no_shadow]

Hello just like would like to ask lalo na sa mga experts natin dito.

im half hearted if sa goon squad ko ba ito ilalagay, since related sa suspension kaya dito ko muna nilagay.

heres the story.

My brother bouth a 2nd hand '05 altis earlier this year.

minsan nagagamit ko din pag nag swap kami ng car.

napansin ko lang when driving it is may kabig yun manibela, lalo na pag pumepreno ka.

may sounds ka din nadidinig from under i don't know if sa shocks or saan one thing im sure is suspension related problem.

since holiday nung monday, my brother decided to have it checked sa zafra sa banawe (suspension experts daw!)

ayun the mechanic figured out na sira na daw mga bushing sa front.

in short eto ang mga ginawa.

Parts

-2 suspension bushing 2,960

Labor: they charged him 2,900 eto mga ginawa:

Replacement of suspension arm bushing
camber correction
wheel alignment

so all in all naka 5860 siya.

makatarungan ba yun? presyo?

i have no idea na ipapagawa niya pero sabi ko para na siyang hinoldap ng zafra.

tama lang ba or over priced?

[crazy_boy]

OEM ba yung parts?
pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.

[vinj]

Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

[cast_no_shadow]

OEM ba yung parts?
pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.

OEM that im not sure. unfortunately drive lang din alam ni utol like me and mas ignorante yun mabilis maniwala sa mekaniko

Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

haven't tried driving the car again para maikumpara ko kung nawala yung mga observations ko.

so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?

[vinj]

so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?

Kung palit bushing with a replacement bushing + alignment/camber... mahal.

[uls]

no doubt TAGA yan

[yebo]

bakit kasi di siya nag-canvass ng price? di ba sabi nga, wala naman mawawala kung magtatanong.

parang sa doctor at ospital din yan e, may mura at magaling, meron din mahal. at meron din yung stock holder sa punenarya.

[dr. d]

seems expensive. for just a little more, i was able to have my lancer's two front suspension towers, ball joints and rack ends replaced (non-oem, of course). paco auto supplies & mechanics association...

[cast_no_shadow]

P*t*ng ina! Kagabi pa ako nabibwisit sabi ko holdap ang nangyari. Confirmed nga.

Mods pakilipat nga ng goon squad hehe

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[uls]

libre naman ang silip eh

so pwede ka muna magpasilip sa suspension/alignment shop

they'll tell you ganito ganyan ang kailangan palitan

then you go to a shop na nagbebenta ng piesa (baka diyan bumibili ang suspension shop so may patong pa)

ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area

pag tapos palitan ang mga piesa punta ka na sa suspension/alignment shop. so alignment lang gagawin doon

[uls]

btw, pa-confirm mo din sa ibang tao kung talaga sira na mga piesa

yung suspension shop syempre gusto kumita so kahit di pa sira piesa sasabihin kailangan na palitan

[vinj]

libre naman ang silip eh

Sa kotse lang? :D

But yeah, charge this to experience i guess. Unless you're really familiar with the shop/mechanic already and are almost sure of the damage, do get a second opinion.

In my case, when i tend to do "preventive" work as well so if some suspension bits and pieces are to be changed on my daily drive, sinasamahan ko na rin ng tie rods, rack ends, etc. to make the take-down worthwhile.

[bulldog]

if the work was done properly and you're happy with it then the price is secondary. hindi naman malayo yang price na yan.

[jmpet626]

madalas diyan ako nag papa check at nag papa quote sa Zafra the punta ko sa may Motorist Auto supply at ako bumibili ng parts na dapat palitan the pinapagawa ko na lang sa mechanic ko. Medyo mataas nga patong nila diyan sa pyesa sa zafra

[garfield_08]

Medyo pricey. Nagpapalit ako ng lower ball joints (pair) saka tie rod ends (pair) plus alignment sa Goodyear Servitek Center about 3months ago, inabot lang ng P2600 (parts and labor).

[trucker111]

Medyo pricey. Nagpapalit ako ng lower ball joints (pair) saka tie rod ends (pair) plus alignment sa Goodyear Servitek Center about 3months ago, inabot lang ng P2600 (parts and labor).

puede bang mag dala ng sariling parts then labor lang ang babayaran sa goodyear servitek?

[cast_no_shadow]

bakit kasi di siya nag-canvass ng price? di ba sabi nga, wala naman mawawala kung magtatanong.

parang sa doctor at ospital din yan e, may mura at magaling, meron din mahal. at meron din yung stock holder sa punenarya.

natawa ako sa analogy mo. he didn't canvassed anymore since free check-up and estimate dyahe naman daw kung lipat pa siya shop.

and medyo ignorant din brother ko, yan yun tipong oo na lang agad and bayad.

libre naman ang silip eh

so pwede ka muna magpasilip sa suspension/alignment shop

they'll tell you ganito ganyan ang kailangan palitan

then you go to a shop na nagbebenta ng piesa (baka diyan bumibili ang suspension shop so may patong pa)

ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area

pag tapos palitan ang mga piesa punta ka na sa suspension/alignment shop. so alignment lang gagawin doon

naku kulang sa diskarte utol ko, ayaw niya ma hassle ng ganyan. but this time he learned his lesson.

if the work was done properly and you're happy with it then the price is secondary. hindi naman malayo yang price na yan.

yes its done properly, pero after hearing the price he paid im not happy anymore. still charge to experience na nga lang.

puede bang mag dala ng sariling parts then labor lang ang babayaran sa goodyear servitek?

pwede, nagdala ako shocks and brakes pinakabit ko lang. paid for labor only.

[uls]

naku kulang sa diskarte utol ko, ayaw niya ma hassle ng ganyan. but this time he learned his lesson.

well that's the price of convenience. what i posted is a bit inconvenient pero makakatipid ka. so isipin mo nalang yung binayad ng brother mo is the price of convenience

[_Cathy_]

puede bang mag dala ng sariling parts then labor lang ang babayaran sa goodyear servitek?

Pwede. That is what I do.

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[_Cathy_]

ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area

This is what I do. Last ko na major pagawa sa Toyorama na parking din.

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