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  1. Join Date
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    Hello just like would like to ask lalo na sa mga experts natin dito.

    im half hearted if sa goon squad ko ba ito ilalagay, since related sa suspension kaya dito ko muna nilagay.

    heres the story.

    My brother bouth a 2nd hand '05 altis earlier this year.

    minsan nagagamit ko din pag nag swap kami ng car.

    napansin ko lang when driving it is may kabig yun manibela, lalo na pag pumepreno ka.

    may sounds ka din nadidinig from under i don't know if sa shocks or saan one thing im sure is suspension related problem.

    since holiday nung monday, my brother decided to have it checked sa zafra sa banawe (suspension experts daw!)

    ayun the mechanic figured out na sira na daw mga bushing sa front.

    in short eto ang mga ginawa.

    Parts

    -2 suspension bushing 2,960

    Labor: they charged him 2,900 eto mga ginawa:

    Replacement of suspension arm bushing
    camber correction
    wheel alignment

    so all in all naka 5860 siya.

    makatarungan ba yun? presyo?

    i have no idea na ipapagawa niya pero sabi ko para na siyang hinoldap ng zafra.

    tama lang ba or over priced?

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    OEM ba yung parts?
    pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.

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    Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

    For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    OEM ba yung parts?
    pag banawe area Wheelers lang talaga ang tried and tested na gumagawa ng suspension.
    OEM that im not sure. unfortunately drive lang din alam ni utol like me and mas ignorante yun mabilis maniwala sa mekaniko

    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Most likely that's the large suspension arm bushing (yung round sa likod ng suspension arm?). The replacement part costs P 350 per piece before when i bought at Toyorama and most likely labor should be P500 or less per arm at Wheelers. AFAIK, OEM bushings come with the control arm set. If may kabig siya pag preno though, you have to check the brake calipers.

    For wheel alignment and camber, that's another 1K i guess (I don't go for the alignment of Wheelers though, i find the manual rig old and possibly inaccurate or minamadali minsan pag marami customers).

    haven't tried driving the car again para maikumpara ko kung nawala yung mga observations ko.

    so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post

    so in the end, reasonable ba yung price na siningil sa kanya?
    Kung palit bushing with a replacement bushing + alignment/camber... mahal.

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    no doubt TAGA yan

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    P*t*ng ina! Kagabi pa ako nabibwisit sabi ko holdap ang nangyari. Confirmed nga.

    Mods pakilipat nga ng goon squad hehe

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    libre naman ang silip eh

    so pwede ka muna magpasilip sa suspension/alignment shop

    they'll tell you ganito ganyan ang kailangan palitan

    then you go to a shop na nagbebenta ng piesa (baka diyan bumibili ang suspension shop so may patong pa)

    ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area

    pag tapos palitan ang mga piesa punta ka na sa suspension/alignment shop. so alignment lang gagawin doon

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    btw, pa-confirm mo din sa ibang tao kung talaga sira na mga piesa

    yung suspension shop syempre gusto kumita so kahit di pa sira piesa sasabihin kailangan na palitan

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    libre naman ang silip eh
    Sa kotse lang? :D

    But yeah, charge this to experience i guess. Unless you're really familiar with the shop/mechanic already and are almost sure of the damage, do get a second opinion.

    In my case, when i tend to do "preventive" work as well so if some suspension bits and pieces are to be changed on my daily drive, sinasamahan ko na rin ng tie rods, rack ends, etc. to make the take-down worthwhile.

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    if the work was done properly and you're happy with it then the price is secondary. hindi naman malayo yang price na yan.

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    madalas diyan ako nag papa check at nag papa quote sa Zafra the punta ko sa may Motorist Auto supply at ako bumibili ng parts na dapat palitan the pinapagawa ko na lang sa mechanic ko. Medyo mataas nga patong nila diyan sa pyesa sa zafra

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    Medyo pricey. Nagpapalit ako ng lower ball joints (pair) saka tie rod ends (pair) plus alignment sa Goodyear Servitek Center about 3months ago, inabot lang ng P2600 (parts and labor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post

    ask the parts shop kung may kilala sila nagkakabit ng piesa (usually meron mga freelance. sasabihin ng tindahan ikaw na bahala makipag usap kung magkano labor). since bumili ka ng piesa sa shop papayag sila gamitin mo yung parking space nila as work area
    This is what I do. Last ko na major pagawa sa Toyorama na parking din.

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    sa zafra makati bautista may gago din chief mechanik na sobrang mahal sumingil,,,
    hindi nagtagal sinipa din dun sa brances ng zafra,,buti nga sa kanya..

    palit lang ng upper balljoints 2k daw plus labor 800 + chamber 1.5k he ,

    eh pwede naman daw hindi na i camber

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    Bago pagawa ng kotse, magtanong muna sa experts ng tsikot

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Hello just like would like to ask lalo na sa mga experts natin dito.

    im half hearted if sa goon squad ko ba ito ilalagay, since related sa suspension kaya dito ko muna nilagay.

    heres the story.

    My brother bouth a 2nd hand '05 altis earlier this year.

    minsan nagagamit ko din pag nag swap kami ng car.

    napansin ko lang when driving it is may kabig yun manibela, lalo na pag pumepreno ka.

    may sounds ka din nadidinig from under i don't know if sa shocks or saan one thing im sure is suspension related problem.

    since holiday nung monday, my brother decided to have it checked sa zafra sa banawe (suspension experts daw!)

    ayun the mechanic figured out na sira na daw mga bushing sa front.

    in short eto ang mga ginawa.

    Parts

    -2 suspension bushing 2,960

    Labor: they charged him 2,900 eto mga ginawa:

    Replacement of suspension arm bushing
    camber correction
    wheel alignment

    so all in all naka 5860 siya.

    makatarungan ba yun? presyo?

    i have no idea na ipapagawa niya pero sabi ko para na siyang hinoldap ng zafra.

    tama lang ba or over priced?
    months ago, nagpa-quote ako dyan sa Zafra Banawe to change my inner and outer tie rod ends, quote nila almost 3k. sa wheelers, wala pa 1k. problema lang sa wheelers walang lifters, puro di-jack. and be careful with their muni-muni assistant na lipad ang utak, one time biglang ina-adjust nun gagong assistant nila yun jack habang nag-wheel alignment manual yun mechanic nila, mintik na maipit yun kamay ng mechanic and my car went down, pero sinalo naman ng bakal ng pang manual wheel alignment contraption nila. tanung nung mechanic bakit mo ina-adjust, pailing lang, gutom ata

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