New and Used Car Talk Reviews Hot Cars Comparison Automotive Community

The Largest Car Forum in the Philippines

Results 1 to 20 of 1575

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    3,984
    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol-pol View Post
    +1 Sir Dadz,

    Are the highlighted items really necessary or just a dealer tactic to increase their revenues? Specially the Diesel Treatment, the Petrol Companies already claim their own diesel additives
    posts from 2008:
    Quote Originally Posted by brynlops View Post
    korak sir! syn oil pa lang kasi nasa 4K na, tas gear oil pa saka sandamakmak na additives!
    Quote Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer View Post
    i thought that (non MMC/MMPC sourced) as-on-seen-TV products are a no-no sa casa?

    Yes, standardization of PMS procedure IS needed to be fair.
    to this date... MMPC and its franchised dealers haven't standardized their PMS procedures. Let us continue to be vigilant with whatever ka-engotan they have in mind!
    Last edited by ianmitsulancer; February 26th, 2010 at 12:07 PM.

  2. Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    164
    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer View Post
    posts from 2008:




    to this date... MMPC and its franchised dealers haven't standardized their PMS procedures. Let us continue to be vigilant with whatever ka-engotan they have in mind!
    Agree.

    Mixed blessing/curse na 3yrs warranty na mga sasakyan ngayon, with some even going up to 5 yrs. Tagal nakatali sa casa magpa-service para hindi ma-void yung warranty.

  3. Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,270
    #3
    just some info for the members and readers....

    my strada is 3.5 years old, 2006 model - odo is tripping at 80K already, relatively low for me but, what the heck.... any ways regarding the issue on engine treatments, and flushing, etc....


    • engine flushing before change oils - a big no no!!! the flushing agent is actually run through the entire engine for a few minutes and then drained again, what this does is that it cleans the entire engine and everything in it up to every nook and cranny that it can get into. why is this bad? - well removing the very fine layer of oil that is coating the metal surfaces of the engine internals leaves you with - metal to metal contact, meaning more friction, meaning faster engine component wear. the usual retort to this, "we immediately put the new oil into the engine anyway".. so what? the new oil stays in teh oil pan/crank case until the engine is started again and the oil pump circulates the oil inside the engine again.... so what is coating the components during the first few seconds of the run in time? nothing!! sure it's just a few seconds, but a lot of few seconds adds up to a lot of few minutes which adds to a lot of pesos in the long run....

    - so if you're still using the same old oil, shun the flushing fluids. don't waste your money and kill your engine at the same time... if you plan on changing oil brand/type, it doesn't matter. just let it drain longer.


    • air cleaner replacement - there's alot of talk regarding when to replace your air cleaner - i haven't replaced mine, and i go to some of teh most ridiculously dusty places.... just make sore you properly clean your filter with compressed air every so often. or better yet, inest in the washable air cleaners"K&N". save the long run cost of buying the disposable and get one which will last the life of your vehicle.
    • fuel filter - again a lot of people are giving their own opinions egarding when to replace - my personal opinion - replace when you feel that there is a loss of power, or if you go station hopping.
    • differential oils - why change when there's nothing wrong with it? the only time you change your diff. oil is when it has been contaminated by water - and there is no way that a city driven vehicle will get water into the diffs ubless na ondoy yun!!! actually kahit nga na ondoy hindi pa din pinapasok eh.....


    i know i will get a lot of flack for this, but bear in mind that these are just my opinions, you may believe me or not, it's your call. but bear in mind i've been driving diesels all my driving life and i deal with diesel engines in my life of work..

    hope this helps!!

  4. Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,957
    #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin Cristi View Post
    just some info for the members and readers....

    my strada is 3.5 years old, 2006 model - odo is tripping at 80K already, relatively low for me but, what the heck.... any ways regarding the issue on engine treatments, and flushing, etc....


    • engine flushing before change oils - a big no no!!! the flushing agent is actually run through the entire engine for a few minutes and then drained again, what this does is that it cleans the entire engine and everything in it up to every nook and cranny that it can get into. why is this bad? - well removing the very fine layer of oil that is coating the metal surfaces of the engine internals leaves you with - metal to metal contact, meaning more friction, meaning faster engine component wear. the usual retort to this, "we immediately put the new oil into the engine anyway".. so what? the new oil stays in teh oil pan/crank case until the engine is started again and the oil pump circulates the oil inside the engine again.... so what is coating the components during the first few seconds of the run in time? nothing!! sure it's just a few seconds, but a lot of few seconds adds up to a lot of few minutes which adds to a lot of pesos in the long run....

    - so if you're still using the same old oil, shun the flushing fluids. don't waste your money and kill your engine at the same time... if you plan on changing oil brand/type, it doesn't matter. just let it drain longer.


    • air cleaner replacement - there's alot of talk regarding when to replace your air cleaner - i haven't replaced mine, and i go to some of teh most ridiculously dusty places.... just make sore you properly clean your filter with compressed air every so often. or better yet, inest in the washable air cleaners"K&N". save the long run cost of buying the disposable and get one which will last the life of your vehicle.
    • fuel filter - again a lot of people are giving their own opinions egarding when to replace - my personal opinion - replace when you feel that there is a loss of power, or if you go station hopping.
    • differential oils - why change when there's nothing wrong with it? the only time you change your diff. oil is when it has been contaminated by water - and there is no way that a city driven vehicle will get water into the diffs ubless na ondoy yun!!! actually kahit nga na ondoy hindi pa din pinapasok eh.....


    i know i will get a lot of flack for this, but bear in mind that these are just my opinions, you may believe me or not, it's your call. but bear in mind i've been driving diesels all my driving life and i deal with diesel engines in my life of work..

    hope this helps!!

    Got this on my notes Professor!

Strada PMS thread [ARCHIVED]