The Perpetual NBA Thread

[pajerokid]

Shaq and TMAC was what I had in mind for LA. But mas gusto nila si Bryant e....

[kimpOy]

may news din na heading towards dallas si tmac and shaq, actually tmac said this yata.

dallas said that there are real and fake trade talks, usually yung mga reported talks ay dead talks na daw.

also some notable players not protected by their mother teams

Jerry Stackhouse (Wizards), Antoine Walker (Mavericks), Allan Houston (Knicks), Kerry Kittles (Nets), Ruben Patterson (Blazers), Antonio Davis (Bulls), Maurice Taylor (Rockets), and Eddie Jones and Brian Grant (Heat).

pwede na itong piliiin ng bobcats tomorrow
easy contender sila agad sa east.

[otanex]

mas gusto ko nga na mag hiwalay na si kobe at shaq para malaman nilang dalawa kung sino ang nagdadala sa kanilang dalawa to championship...

[pajerokid]

eto boys! ENJOY!!!!

ATLANTA: Alan Henderson, F-C, 6-9, 31.

BOSTON: Chucky Atkins, G, 5-11, 29. Ernest Brown*, C, 7-0, 25; Brandon Hunter, F, 6-7, 23; Jumaine Jones, F, 6-8, 25; Michael Stewart, F, 6-10, 29.

CHICAGO: Antonio Davis, C-F, 6-9, 35; Ronald Dupree*, F, 6-7, 23; Marcus Fizer*, F, 6-8, 25; Scottie Pippen, F-G, 6-8, 38; Eddie Robinson, F, 6-9, 28; Jerome Williams, F-C, 6-9, 31.

CLEVELAND: Ruben Boumtje Boumtje*, C, 7-0, 26; Jason Kapono, F, 6-8, 23; Ira Newble, F, 6-7, 29; Kevin Ollie, G, 6-2, 31.

DALLAS: Tariq Abdul-Wahad, F-G, 6-6, 29; Tony Delk, G, 6-2, 30; Danny Fortson, C-F, 6-8, 28; Antoine Walker, F, 6-9, 27.

DENVER: Jeff Trepagnier*, G, 6-4, 24.

GOLDEN STATE: J.R. Bremer*, G, 6-2, 23; Evan Eschmeyer, C, 6-11, 29; Popeye Jones, F, 6-8, 33.

HOUSTON: Adrian Griffin, G-F, 6-5, 29; Eric Piatkowski, G-F, 6-7, 33; Maurice Taylor, F, 6-9, 27.

INDIANA: Jamison Brewer*, G, 6-4 23; Primoz Brezec, C, 7-1, 24; Austin Croshere, F, 6-9, 28; Anthony Johnson, G, 6-3, 29; James Jones, F, 6-8, 23; Scot Pollard F-C, 6-11, 29.

L.A. CLIPPERS: Matt Barnes*, F, 6-7, 24; Keyon Dooling* G, 6-3, 24; Predrag Drobnjak, C, 6-11, 28; Eddie House, G, 6-1, 26; Josh Moore*, C, 7-2, 23.

MEMPHIS: Troy Bell, G, 6-1, 23; Ryan Humphrey, F, 6-8, 24; Dahntay Jones, G-F, 6-6, 23; Bo Outlaw, F, 6-8, 23; Theron Smith, F, 6-8, 23; Jake Tsakalidis*, C, 7-2, 25; Lorenzen Wright, C, 6-11, 28.

MIAMI: Brian Grant, C-F, 6-9, 32; Eddie Jones, G, 6-6, 32; Loren Woods* C, 7-2, 25.

MINNESOTA: Ervin Johnson, C, 6-11, 36.

MILWAUKEE: Brian Skinner, C-F, 6-9, 28; Erick Strickland G, 6-3, 30.

NEW JERSEY: Kerry Kittles, G, 6-5, 30; Alonzo Mourning, C, 6-10, 34; Rodney Rogers, F, 6-7, 32; Tamar Slay*, G, 6-9, 24.

NEW ORLEANS: Courtney Alexander*, G, 6-6, 27, Maurice Carter*, G, 6-5, 27.

NEW YORK: Shandon Anderson, G-F, 6-6, 30; Penny Hardaway, G-F, 6-7, 32; Allan Houston, G, 6-6, 33; Moochie Norris, G, 6-2, 30; Cezary Trybanski C, 7-2, 24.

ORLANDO: Reece Gaines, G, 6-4, 25, Britton Johnsen*, F, 6-10, 24; Zaza Pachulia, C, 6-11, 20; DeShawn Stevenson*, G, 6-5, 25.

PHILADELPHIA: Greg Buckner, F-G, 6-4, 27; Marc Jackson, F-C, 6-10, 29; Todd MacCulloch, C, 7-0, 28; Aaron McKie, G, 6-5, 28; Derrick Coleman, F-C, 6-10, 36.

PHOENIX: Howard Eisley, G, 6-2, 31; Jahidi White, C-F, 6-9, 28.

PORTLAND: Omar Cook, G, 6-1, 22; Dan Dickau, G, 6-0, 25; Desmond Ferguson*, F, 6-7, 26; Eddie Gill, G, 6-0, 25; Ruben Patterson, F-G, 6-5, 28; Vladimir Stepania, C, 7-1, 28; Qyntel Woods, F, 6-8, 23.

SACRAMENTO: Gerald Wallace, F, 6-7, 21.

SAN ANTONIO: Matt Carroll, G, 6-6, 23; Malik Rose, F, 6-7, 29; Charlie Ward, G, 6-2, 33.

SEATTLE: Calvin Booth, C, 6-11, 28; Jerome James, C, 7-1, 28; Richie Frahm*, G, 6-5, 26; Vitaly Potapenko C-F, 6-10, 29.

UTAH: Curtis Borchardt, C, 7-0, 23; Aleksandar Pavlovic, F, 6-7, 20.

WASHINGTON: Lonny Baxter*, F, 6-8, 25; Juan Dixon, G, 6-3, 25; Christian Laettner, F-C, 6-11, 34; Jerry Stackhouse, G-F, 6-6, 29.

[pajerokid]

Kung ako bobcats.....

CHI - Antonio Davis
CLE - Kevin Ollie
DAL - Antoine Walker
HOU - Mo Taylor
MIA - Brian Grant
MIN - Ervin Johnson
NJN - Kerry Kittles
NOH - Courtney Alexander
NYK - Allan Houston
PHI - Todd McCulloch
PHO - Howard Eisley
POR - Ruben Patterson
SAS - Malik Rose
SEA - Vitali Potapenko
WAS - J. Stackhouse

not too sure lang kung ilan, add the no. 2 pick in the draft pa. might be Okafor!

[newkidontheblock]

Sources:Magic-Rockets have deal for McGrady

Logical big deals for the diesel

[kimpOy]

PK, nice

pero also take into consideration the salary ng mga pinili mo, the reason knicks did not protect houston kasi napalaki ng salary niya.

also for brian grant, jerry stackhouse, mo taylor etc etc

also bobcats agreed to pick clippers drobnjak and their 4th pick para makuha nila ang 2nd pick.

they agreed also to pick jadihi white of the suns for $3M

eto picks ko for bobcats
jason capono cleveland
malik rose spurs
gerald wallace kings
chucky atkins boston
jumaine jones boston
marcus fizer chicago
ervin johnson twolves
aaron mckie sixers

[ILuvDetailing]

Check out the new Dynamic duo in the West.
T-Mac, Juwan Hoaward, Ty Lue to Houston for The Cat, Stevie Franchise, Kelvin Cato, provided none of the other principal names in the multi-player trade are selected in Tuesday's expansion draft.

Yao Ming - TMac a potential Dynasty? Sounds good to me...

[kimpOy]

BOBCATS EXPANSION SELECTIONS
POS. PLAYER FROM
F Lonny Baxter* Washington
G J.R. Bremer* Golden State
C Primoz Brezec Indiana
G Maurice Carter* New Orleans
C Predrag Drobnjak L.A. Clippers
F Desmond Ferguson* Portland
F Marcus Fizer* Chicago
G Richie Frahm* Seattle
F Brandon Hunter Boston
F Jason Kapono Cleveland
F-C Zaza Pachulia Orlando
F Aleksandar Pavlovic Utah
F Jamal Sampson L.A. Lakers
G Tamar Slay* New Jersey
F Theron Smith Memphis
G Jeff Trepagnier* Denver
F Gerald Wallace Sacramento
C Jahidi White Phoenix
C Loren Woods* Miami

*unrestricted free agents
maraming free agents ang kinuha ng bobcats,
im sure they will give their free agents their walking papers.

trade talks
walker to knicks?
iverson being shopped around

[newkidontheblock]

buti na lng kinuha ng bobcats si Marcus Fizer..this is the time for him to shine..bihira kc sya gamitin sa chicago.

[ssaloon]

no names dominate the expansion draft. investing for future acquisitions yung bobcats.

[ILuvDetailing]

Recent Trade - TMac, Juwan Howard, Ty Lue to the Rockets for Stevie Francis (No Longer the franchise), Cat and Kelvin Cato... other players maybe involved to meet salary cap requirements. Since the Bobcats didn't select any of the players mentioned above (TMac and Steve Francis are protected) this deal is done, although this cannot be made official until July 1. Now we have a new Dynamic Duo in the West. Lets see if they can dominate the way Kobe-Shaq did.

[kimpOy]

naku parang ewing/sprewell scenario ulit for jeff van gundy.

although wala naman naging problem sa knicks dati

and im sure yao will give way for t-mac
and tmac will sure understand how yao is important in the offense

unlike stevie franchise na puro showtime.
(karma na ni francis yan remember when he was draft 2nd by the vancouver grizzlies agad siyang nagpa trade kasi pangit na team daw grizzlies.)

[mantoy]

i think yao and t-mac will complement each other. yao is a good passer and it was not fully realized kasi nga ang tagal ng bola kay steve francis. with t-mac, jeff van gundy can make yao the 1st option on offense and make t-mac the receiver of yao's kick out passes. sounds deadly to me.

[pajerokid]

Is it a done deal?

I like the way TMAC plays. Effective scorer na, can rebound and defend pa.

[kimpOy]

close but no cigar YET

indiana made a pitch pero ayaw daw nilang ibigay si ron artest at si al harrington...

also si tmac kasi can play 2nd fiddle, hindi siya katulad ni kobe na gusto siya ang star.

remember tmac played in the shadow of VC at supposed to be below the radar of grant hill and duncan (remember dapat troika sila sa magic but duncan re-sign with the spurs

also tmac is tired already of scoring, he wants playoff actions

[ILuvDetailing]

Looks like the magic are warry of Steve Francis' comments regarding not wanting to play for a lottery team. Word is that The Franchise's agent is looking for a third team to accomodate him. Lets see what happens.

If the scouting report on Prep Phenom Dwight Howard is accurate "The Franchise" shouldn't fret about going to Orlando especially in the "Leastern" conference, where you will have an easier time getting to the playoffs than out there in the mighty West. Also he and his buddy "The Cat" can take all the shots they want.

[vr-6]

It was widely believed that T-Mac would be headed to Houston this morning in a trade for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato. But that deal hit a snag yesterday. though he is under contract for several years and has no veto power over trades, Francis made it clear that he did not want to play in Orlando, causing the Magic to reconsider the trade.

Several league executives and player agents were baffled by Orlando's hesitation because Francis would have no choice but to play for the Magic.

Looking elsewhere, the Magic entered into serious discussions with Phoenix yesterday, and the Suns are offering Shawn Marion, the up-and-coming Joe Johnson and this year's first-round pick (seventh over all), for McGrady. That would give Orlando an All-Star small forward in Marion, a potential All-Star shooting guard in Johnson and the first and seventh picks in tomorrow's draft.

Indiana, which is willing to trade anyone on its roster besides Jermaine O'Neal, has been trying to engage Orlando in talks for McGrady, but the Magic has not been moved by any of its offers.

In the end, several league executives believe the trade with Houston, which would also send Tyronn Lue, Juwan Howard, Reece Gaines and possibly Andrew DeClerq to the Rockets, will eventually be made because T-Mac is saying Houston is the only team he will stay with long term.

T-Mac, who is able to opt out of his contract after next season, has great leverage because he can threaten to leave any team that trades for him after just one year. If the trade happens, it is believed the Magic might turn around and trade Francis.

[ILuvDetailing]

Re: comparing Ewing/Sprewel to Yao/TMac.

I don't think we can compare these two duos:
- When Sprewel joined the Knicks, Ewing was already past his prime and was comming off major wrist surgery and had foot problems.

- TMac and Yao are both entering their prime, and with JVD calling the shots, Yao will be the primary option on offense. Lets see how Tmac will adjust. If he does... get ready for a new dynasty...

- Unlike in NY Sprewel/Houston were the primary options on a guard oriented system with Camby in the middle and Ewing comming of the bench.

I'm a big Laker fan but if this deal is finalized I'm rooting for the Rockets... hehehe

[vr-6]

Celtics-Bulls trade rumor

The Bulls and the Boston Celtics have discussed a trade that would send three-time all-star Paul Pierce to the Bulls for Tyson Chandler, the No. 3 pick in Thursday's NBA draft and another player to even out salaries, according to a source close to the Bulls.

If Ainge makes this deal, he really needs to go back to braodcasting...

Cavs-Pacers trade rumor

Cavs get: Al Harrington, 30th pick
Pacers get: Kevin Ollie, Dajuan Wagner, 10th pick