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    Sbp is probably thinking of an exit strategy from philippine basketball. It's proving to be a costly & thankless job.

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    Last edited by baludoy; July 27th, 2018 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Sbp is probably thinking of an exit strategy from philippine basketball. It's proving to be a costly & thankless job.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Who will replace sbp? An smc backed group?
    Sayang naman yung naipundar kahit papano nang gilas.

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    ^ yan ang clamor ngayon eh

    Danding did it before w/ the ncc teams but they didn't have as much success as the gilas teams did. And they had a trio of naturalized citizens na noon at their disposal (jeff moore, dennis still, and chip engelland) if memory serves me right. And Madami din away vs international teams. haha

    Btw, team A ng s. korea & taiwan ang naglaro sa jones cup as part of their preparation for the asiads

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    Last edited by baludoy; July 27th, 2018 at 07:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ yan ang clamor ngayon eh

    Danding did it before w/ the ncc teams but they didn't have as much success as the gilas teams did. And they had a trio of naturalized citizens na noon at their disposal (jeff moore, dennis still, and chip engelland) if memory serves me right. And Madami din away vs international teams. haha

    Btw, team A ng s. korea & taiwan ang naglaro sa jones cup as part of their preparation for the asiads

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Too much politics. No wonder we are in basketball purgatory.

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    Totoo ba yung post na quote sa pba memes fb page na sinabi daw ni Chualay "Kase sinasabi nila ang San Miguel, di nagpapahiram. Pinaglaro nga namin si Christian (Standhardinger) sa 3x3, ayun pilay. Di namin magamit."

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    Ayun totoo pala sinabi napanood ko na video ng presscon, ang sinasabi dahilan ni Chua kaya ayaw nila magpahiram ngayon e sasagasaan daw sched ng PBA at nasa championship daw ginebra at san miguel, then priority daw yung sa fiba kaya dapat mapahinga si fajardo kesa sumali pa sa asian games. Pero PBA daw pinaka priority kesa national team.

    Ang natawa ako dun sa sinabi ni chua yung blackwater daw tinawagan niya kung pwede ipahiram si JP Eram sa national team haha pero ayaw daw ni Sy sabi daw "sino bang tatalunin namin diyan sa asian games eh 2 weeks na lang" at maapektohan pa daw PBA stint nila, as if naman competitive sila sa PBA HAHAHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Totoo ba yung post na quote sa pba memes fb page na sinabi daw ni Chualay "Kase sinasabi nila ang San Miguel, di nagpapahiram. Pinaglaro nga namin si Christian (Standhardinger) sa 3x3, ayun pilay. Di namin magamit."
    Its not just the team, its also the players who will never give it all because they have their PBA career to consider

    Give it all and risk injury, thats the end of their PBA career. End of their lucrative salaries.

    What do they get from it? a medal, part of history they get to share with their grandchildren

    The phil govt cant even assure it will continue to support their comfortable life with a PBA salary should they get injured representing the country

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    Last edited by kisshmet; July 27th, 2018 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Its not just the team, its also the players who will never give it all because they have their PBA career to consider

    Give it all and risk injury, thats the end of their PBA career. End of their lucrative salaries.

    What do they get from it? a medal, part of history they get to share with their grandchildren

    The phil govt cant even assure it will support their comfortable life with a PBA salary should they get injured representing the country

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    Natawa nga ako sa bulokwater di daw ipapagamit sa national team si erram dahil wala naman daw sila tatalunin sa asian games due to 2 weeks kumahog preparation, eh putek kahit naman sa PBA walang tatalunin ang bulokwater na yan. HAHAHAHA

    Pero mas ok nga talaga kung ibalik NCC format like sa gilas 1 program. Meron talaga players na naka kontrata at sweldo sa team na yun tapos sali sali sila sa mga conference ng PBA at international tourneys. Para wala problema sa hiraman ng player. Ngayon pa lang dapat start na ng ganyan yung mga player from college na magagaling tapos gusto maglaro for national team eh imbes na magpadraft sa PBA sa national team na lang magpa kontrata. Kung bumagsak man laro o mainjured player at di na siya fit sa national team eh pwede pa rin siya kunin ng PBA team as free agent.

    Ang tingin ko magiging balakid naman sa ganyan malamang di rin papayag SMC at MVP group kasi di na nila malalagay at draft sa PBA teams nila yung magagaling sa college..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Natawa nga ako sa bulokwater di daw ipapagamit sa national team si erram dahil wala naman daw sila tatalunin sa asian games due to 2 weeks kumahog preparation, eh putek kahit naman sa PBA walang tatalunin ang bulokwater na yan. HAHAHAHA

    Pero mas ok nga talaga kung ibalik NCC format like sa gilas 1 program. Meron talaga players na naka kontrata at sweldo sa team na yun tapos sali sali sila sa mga conference ng PBA at international tourneys. Para wala problema sa hiraman ng player. Ngayon pa lang dapat start na ng ganyan yung mga player from college na magagaling tapos gusto maglaro for national team eh imbes na magpadraft sa PBA sa national team na lang magpa kontrata. Kung bumagsak man laro o mainjured player at di na siya fit sa national team eh pwede pa rin siya kunin ng PBA team as free agent.

    Ang tingin ko magiging balakid naman sa ganyan malamang di rin papayag SMC at MVP group kasi di na nila malalagay at draft sa PBA teams nila yung magagaling sa college..
    The best players of the land will always aspire to play for a PBA team and not the national team with no RETIREMENT PACKAGE

    A PBA team will always consider their standing and their players as assets

    Even the cellar dweller would look after their interest, its a corporate interest after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    The best players of the land will always aspire to play for a PBA team and not the national team with no RETIREMENT PACKAGE

    A PBA team will always consider their standing and their players as assets

    Even the cellar dweller would look after their interest, its a corporate interest after all

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    Maganda din dapat benefits at contrata sa national team para maka attract ng top talents. Lalaro pa rin naman sa PBA conference at international tourneys yung national team kaya di problema marketing at kitaan. Pero ewan ko wishful thinking talaga ganitong setup at malabo mangyari, haha

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    ano ba ginagawa ng gilas cadets bat hindi yun padala nila sa asian games, di ba binuo yan para pwede sila hugutin pag need sila, ang alam ko sa 12 gilas cadets tatlo lang na ban sa fiba, pogoy, carl bryan cruz at yung fave player ni kagalingan na si jajalon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Maganda din dapat benefits at contrata sa national team para maka attract ng top talents. Lalaro pa rin naman sa PBA conference at international tourneys yung national team kaya di problema marketing at kitaan. Pero ewan ko wishful thinking talaga ganitong setup at malabo mangyari, haha
    Iyan nga iyong model na ginamit sa 1st gilas batch nila chris tiu, andy barroca, jvee casio ,et al kaya nga ok lang sa kanila pumasok ng pba draft several years later than their batch mates.

    The idea then was to get primo, fresh-from-college players and quarter & mold these kids under the wings of the great rajko toroman for several years. But bright minds were saying pros should be included in the nat'l team so that the country will be given a fighting chance in int'l competitions. And so this idea of sticking w/ a permanent youthful team w/ a feeder system from the collegiate ranks was eventually abandoned in favor of sending a bunch of pros w/c their mother teams (smc squads in particular) were always reluctant to release.

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    Last edited by baludoy; July 28th, 2018 at 08:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokong22 View Post
    ano ba ginagawa ng gilas cadets bat hindi yun padala nila sa asian games, di ba binuo yan para pwede sila hugutin pag need sila, ang alam ko sa 12 gilas cadets tatlo lang na ban sa fiba, pogoy, carl bryan cruz at yung fave player ni kagalingan na si jajalon.
    Iyong gilas cadets ngayon binuo para sa 2023 world cup na dito sa atin tatanghalin (iniba na ba ng fiba ang venue after the infamous bulacan basketbrawl?). The concept is to prepare a formidable squad made up of current high school & collegiate stand outs w/c will make up the nat'l team 5 years from now.

    Ngayon malamang busy yan sila sa pag-aaral nila w/c should always be the case.

    Madami nga sana willing & available players to play for the gilas squad pero pahirapan naman ang release nila sa mother teams nila. Ngayon na napabalita na hindi na mag-papadala ng team ang spb, tsaka naman nag- ingay ang pba board of governors saying na wala naman problema ang release ng players para nga naman hindi sila ma-blame sa fiasco na ito

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    Last edited by baludoy; July 28th, 2018 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Iyan nga iyong model na ginamit sa 1st gilas batch nila chris tiu, andy barroca, jvee casio ,et al kaya nga ok lang sa kanila pumasok ng pba draft several years later than their batch mates.

    The idea then was to get primo, fresh-from-college players and quarter & mold these kids under the wings of the great rajko toroman for several years. But bright minds were saying pros should be included in the nat'l team so that the country will be given a fighting chance in int'l competitions. And so this idea of sticking w/ a permanent youthful team w/ a feeder system from the collegiate ranks was eventually abandoned in favor of sending a bunch of pros w/c their mother teams (smc squads in particular) were always reluctant to release.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Medyo kulang sa talent yung Gilas 1 eh. Imagine Chris Tiu and JVee Casio as point guard, mga tier 2 player nga lang ito noon sa UAAP. Ang nakakasuka pa Mac Baracael swingman nila one of the worst players ever in philippine basketball ito. Ang naalala ko diyan sa gilas 1 sumali sila sa pba sa isang conference tapos nakatapat nila ginebra sa semis eh tawang tawa ako mas madami pa fans ng ginebra kesa sa national team, dito lang ako nakakita binu-boo yung national team para sa club team haha. Tapos sinakal lang ni Hatfield si Chris Tiu hindi na nakapalag, ginebra pa lang hindi na kinaya niyan Gilas 1 kaya mahina talaga roster parang ang hihina ng mga bata nung time na yan.

    Pero sa mga bata ngayon parang mas madami na magagaling at matatangkad. like sila CJ Perez, Kai Sotto, Thirdy Ravena sana kung pwede makontrata agad for national team pagkagraduate. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Maganda din dapat benefits at contrata sa national team para maka attract ng top talents. Lalaro pa rin naman sa PBA conference at international tourneys yung national team kaya di problema marketing at kitaan. Pero ewan ko wishful thinking talaga ganitong setup at malabo mangyari, haha
    All players look after their future and their families, top that lucrative PBA contract and the players will turn their back to their company and play WHOLE-HEARTEDLY for their country

    We dont even have to contend with those corporate interests

    The key to sterling performance in any international competition is to take care of these players even beyond their healthy playing time

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    Last edited by kisshmet; July 28th, 2018 at 12:11 PM.

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    Magpapadala na ulit ang pinas sa asian games. Nagbago isip

    PBA: ROS reunion in Asian Games official again | ABS-CBN Sports


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    Sa tingin nyo competitive ba vs sokor, iran, Japan, lebanon, etc?

    May groupings na nga ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Sa tingin nyo competitive ba vs sokor, iran, Japan, lebanon, etc?

    May groupings na nga ba?

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Meron na groupings.

    Basketball at the 218 Asian Games - Wikipedia

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    kalokohan yang PBA.. kung pumayag sila bakit hindi na yung the best ang binigay nila.. dapat si Junemar and Lassiter ang binigay nila..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    kalokohan yang PBA.. kung pumayag sila bakit hindi na yung the best ang binigay nila.. dapat si Junemar and Lassiter ang binigay nila..
    Si Lassiter wala na pagasa maglaro ulet yan sa national team parang siya na mismo yung ayaw maglaro doon kasi every time talaga lagi siya may excuse.

    As for Fajardo naman baka dahil may fiba pa siya? yun yung sabi ni chua eh need daw magpahinga ni fajardo dahil meron pa siya fiba at grandslam quest sa pba governors cup na magsstart ata kasabay lang asian games.

PBA na ulit... (continued)