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    #4481
    ""Any responsible coach would have taken out a player who clearly wanted to hurt his opponents.""

    I agree. Pero mukhang may ibang agenda yung coach. I totally lost my respect to the coach after this sad incident.
    Last edited by totoybato; October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 AM.

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    #4482
    Quote Originally Posted by totoybato View Post
    ""Any responsible coach would have taken out a player who clearly wanted to hurt his opponents.""

    I agree. Pero mukhang may ibang agenda yung coach. I totally lost my respect to the coach after this sad incident.
    So, wala ka rin respeto kay Jawo? Hindi lang miminsan ginawa ng players niya ang ganyan (manakit ng kapwa player).

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    #4483
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Mukhang mahina itong National Team natin ah. Wala pa silang panalo! Considering na nasa local front pa lang sila. Mas matitindi pa makakalaban nila pag overseas na.

    And I read somewhere na, parang ayaw na ata ng SBP kay Giles? True ba ito? Parang di sila happy sa performance nya.
    hindi naman siguro ganun ka-hina. remember bago mag champion ang ncc national team natin sa pba years before, pinag-bubugbog din sila ng mga mama sa pba. but when they began regularly playing outside the country and thus gaining experience and confidence plus they bulked-up more in the process, they eventually hoisted a pba championship trophy emphatically in 1985.

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    #4484
    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    So, wala ka rin respeto kay Jawo? Hindi lang miminsan ginawa ng players niya ang ganyan (manakit ng kapwa player).
    wala akong natatandaang instance na isang team ay nag commit ng 4 flagrant fouls in a span of 18 minutes. At least si Jawo, pag may matinding ginawa player nya, labas agad kaya di masyadong halata.
    Saka ibang level yung kalaro ng burger king, mga amateurs lang, yung iba maglalaro pa ulit sa uaap .Sa palagay ko kung sa kapwa PBA players nila gagawin yan, magdadalawang isip muna sila, lalo na yung rookie na matias.

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    #4485
    Nah, kahit inilalabas agad, halata pa rin naman na marumi maglaro. At iyun ang masama doon. Kahit ilang minutes ka pa sa loob, at kahit minsan mo lang gawin sa loob ng isang game, masama pa rin. Kumbaga sa magnanakaw, nagnakaw ng piso o ng bilyun-bilyong piso, magnanakaw pa rin.

    Opinion ko lang po.

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    #4486
    kahit masuspend yan si arboleda ok lang kasi asawa nya yun anak ng mayari ng team kaya sigurado susweldo pa din yan , at tsaka malakas ang business nya na taxi operator, mga last month lang ata nung napanuod ko sya sa imbestigador kasi yun taxi nila nahuli hindi gumagamit ng metro, nangongontrata ng pasahero sa may airport hehehe grabe yung patong libo ang bayaran lupet talaga

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    #4487
    imo, kulang ang isang taong suspensyon dyan ke arboleda. kung sa kapwa manlalaro nya ginawa yun siguro sapat na pero sa fan, at least dalawang taon dapat at totoong walang sweldo

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    #4488
    Intentionally trying to hurt an opposing player was a really dirty tactic. But, attacking a fan? Wow. That deserves a lifetime ban or at least a revocation of Arboleda's GAB license. Its about time the PBA sends a message loud and clear to its players that this kind of act will never be tolerated no matter what.

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    #4489
    ano na naman etong pinag-gagawa ng PBA...
    mas maganda sigurong hindi na mag-participate ang Gilas sa PBA


    [SIZE=4]PBA renders Smart Gilas games no bearing[/SIZE]

    10/29/2009 | 09:12 PM

    In the end, Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) commissioner Sonny Barrios took into account the interest of the country in coming up with a crucial decision concerning the RP-Smart Gilas team’s participation in the KFC-PBA Philippine Cup.

    Given two options by the Board, Barrios decided to alter instead the arrangement of the nationals’ participation in the season-opening meet, rendering all their games – past and future – as no-bearing, instead of not allowing big man CJ Giles to see action in the team’s remaining games.

    “We recognize that CJ Giles is a very vital part of the national team, the reason why he is considered as a candidate for naturalization for Filipino citizen.

    “He is seen as the 'good big man' the country sorely lacks to be able to compete with the powerhouse teams in Asia today. It will not help the team’s cause if Giles is not allowed to play with the team," Barrios explained.

    The commissioner bared the new set-up Thursday after hearing complaints from governors over the unpredictable playing minutes of the 6-foot-11 Giles, the observations from a former national coach and the remarks from players alike.

    Giles, the man being groomed for naturalization to backstop the RP team in its quest to qualify for the London Olympics in 2012, saw action for merely five minutes on Oct. 21 in Smart Gilas’ last game against Talk ‘N Text, which romped off with a lopsided 103-70 victory.

    Governors immediately questioned the move by coach Rajko Toroman the following day, wondering why the Serbian mentor benched his intimidating inside force against the Tropang Texters, whose owner, Manny V. Pangilinan, is also the president of the Samahang Basketball ng Pilipinas, the governing body for amateur basketball that bankrolls the RP Team.

    Barrios likewise took into account the observation of Ginebra coach Jong Uichico, the national coach when the PBA competed in the 2002 Busan Asian Games.

    Following Ginebra’s 100-72 win over Smart Gilas, Uichico was quoted as saying: “It is unfortunate that the PBA teams play the national team always looking to win."

    And the best way to help the RP team, according to Uichico, is to "take away the ‘we have to win attitude’ and give the PBA teams the opportunity to simulate the patterns of the clubs that RP Team will be facing in international tournaments."

    The PBA also arrived at a common thought that since games before by Smart Gilas had effect on the win-loss standings of the PBA teams, the level of intensity against the Nationals have been at a level that results in physicality and ruggedness.

    That was the clear case when the Nationals met Burger King last Oct. 16, the unforgettable match-up that led to the infamous mauling by Wynne Arboleda of a court-side fan – Alain Katrigbac - and the four flagrant-one fouls the Whopper committed in the first half.

    Arboleda was subsequently banned for the rest of the season without pay and is now facing charges of physical injuries.

    “Some players have pointed out that the different treatment almost always means a difference in the level of intensity that may give rise to physical play and unwanted incidents," Barrios said.

    By this new decision, the games won by Talk ‘N Text, Burger King and Ginebra over the Nationals have been nullified. The Texters and the Gin Kings now have similar 2-1 (win-loss) records with the Whopper falling to 1-2.

    “We are convinced that it is in everyone’s best interest if both teams go into the game with the same mindset that the game has no bearing. Both Smart Gilas and the PBA opposing team, and their players, will thus be on equal footing as far as their outlook and approach of the game are concerned," Barrios said.

    Smart Gilas, which has never yet won a game, next sees action on Nov. 6 against the Coca-Cola Tigers.

    Barrios dispelled concerns by the SBP that the PBA teams would not take the games seriously now that they have no bearing.

    “Just as you assured us that Smart Gilas will be prepared to play every game competitively and passionately, we also guarantee that our PBA teams will give the national teams the competition they need to toughen up for the bigger hardcourt wars ahead," he said. - GMANews.TV

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    #4490
    ^baka nga hindi seryosohin ng pba teams ung laban. tapos baka ibench pa yung mga star players. tsk tsk.

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