Pacquiao vs Margarito

[shadow]

Ang akin lang naman eh be clear minded. Pacman will be gaining weight for the fight, so there goes his speed. and besides junior middleweight is between 148 and 154, and it's a vacant title. The two camp has to compromise for the fight to happen and find the agreed weight fair enough. And who is margo to complain.

Kung naging matapang lang sana yung dapat na kalaban.

wala naman problema kay Pacyou eh, he deserve everything he has right now and it's just I'm with flakez that meron na nganng weight division/limit, why make a new one?

as you've said junior welterweight is between 148-154, so as along hinde lumagpas sa 154 lbs then dapat wlang problema, that problem is 1 lb is big thing for boxers, mas mahirap magpababa ng timbang sa boxer kesa tumaas. 'coz natural sa boxers na tumataas talaga ng division as years go by.

[CoDer]

^ Kaso na kay margo na lahat ng alas pag nasa 154 na ang laban. Besides pwede naman hamunin si margo sa 147lbs even si Paul William willing kay pacman at 147, pero eto umakyat sa 151lbs.

Test the waters ika nga. Pag kaya ang 151, next na ang 154.

[Zeus]

Ibig sabihin may laban silang dalawa, maganda na naman ang laban

[flakez]

hahaha i wish you can be in pacman's shoes
as i said it's not him who wants to move up, but the circumstances, otherwise there's no more fight that can be booked for him...
for all we know there is a regulating authority in the boxing sports... they decide the provisions of the game... not us

actually, manny has a choice. it's margo who doesnt have. as coder pointed out, they can even fight at 147, even pwill is calling out manny before. its their problem bumaba sa 147. besides, who gives a **** about margo after the hand wrap issue and a lackluster win against somebody in mexico. I still believe he doesnt deserve this fight.

Ang akin lang naman eh be clear minded. Pacman will be gaining weight for the fight, so there goes his speed. and besides junior middleweight is between 148 and 154, and it's a vacant title. The two camp has to compromise for the fight to happen and find the agreed weight fair enough. And who is margo to complain.

Kung naging matapang lang sana yung dapat na kalaban.

wala naman problema kay Pacyou eh, he deserve everything he has right now and it's just I'm with flakez that meron na nganng weight division/limit, why make a new one?

as you've said junior welterweight is between 148-154, so as along hinde lumagpas sa 154 lbs then dapat wlang problema, that problem is 1 lb is big thing for boxers, mas mahirap magpababa ng timbang sa boxer kesa tumaas. 'coz natural sa boxers na tumataas talaga ng division as years go by.

yun nga, basta within the limits ok lang dapat. kung feeling niya mas ok condition niya sa 150 then don siya and hayaan niya yung kalaban sa most comfortable weight niya.

^ Kaso na kay margo na lahat ng alas pag nasa 154 na ang laban. Besides pwede naman hamunin si margo sa 147lbs even si Paul William willing kay pacman at 147, pero eto umakyat sa 151lbs.

Test the waters ika nga. Pag kaya ang 151, next na ang 154.

problem na niya yung lamang ng kalaban, pinasok niya yung division eh which is talagang maliit siya para don and kelangan niya ma overcome yun.

I got your point na para mas ok yung laban, but the thing is title yung pinaglalabanan nila. hindi siya tipong superfight na basta lang matuloy. ie. pac-dlh(problema na ni dela hoya yung bumaba siya ng weight and compromise naman ni pac yung speed and power niya sa pag-akyat). ang ayoko lang kasi talaga is title bout. kung hindi niya kaya at full weight hayaan na lang niya, parang he doesnt deserve the title kung hindi naman niya kaya labanan yung kalaban at his(margo) best condition within the weight limits. or wag na lang gawing title bout. we all know manny is gunning for the record and not for margo. hehehe.

kung kay pbf lang sana kahit anong weight sila basta matuloy lang yung laban since title is not an issue. its just the fight that we want to see.

sana maganda laban and masundan pa ulit. pwill or martinez at 154?

[CoDer]

^ Lusot si pacman sa akin dahil vacant title sya, otherwise dun sya sa 154 limit maghamon dapat.

Paul Williams will rape pacman 10x at 154lbs. Kumag yung ungoy na yun laking mama, hinahamon ang pandak.

[shadow]

team Pacyou already said that this is their last fight above 147 lbs.

[CoDer]

^ Dapat lang boss shadow. Di uubra sa pacman above 147.

Sana kakasa na si gay next year para masaya.

[safeorigin]

nah, he's now woman-beating-gay

[flakez]

sana nga pero hindi na ako umaasa. hehe.

maghamon na lang siya ng mga unthinkable fights. hehehe. gusto ko si pwill eh. hahaha. feeling ko kaya niya daanin sa bilis un. problema lang baka hindi indahin mga suntok niya. hahaha.

[Capt.Bob]

^ Lusot si pacman sa akin dahil vacant title sya, otherwise dun sya sa 154 limit maghamon dapat.

Paul Williams will rape pacman 10x at 154lbs. Kumag yung ungoy na yun laking mama, hinahamon ang pandak.

tama ka sir bakante nga yung weight division na yun... they included it to add flavor to the fight otherwise it will not sell...
btw, marga fought pwill * 147 lbs...

a pacman-pwill fight might happen if maraa kisses the canvas and if gayfloyd keeps on hiding on his mom's palda hahaha

[CoDer]

sana nga pero hindi na ako umaasa. hehe.

maghamon na lang siya ng mga unthinkable fights. hehehe. gusto ko si pwill eh. hahaha. feeling ko kaya niya daanin sa bilis un. problema lang baka hindi indahin mga suntok niya. hahaha.

David vs Goliath dapat title ng fight nila. 6'1" vs 5'6 1/2" tukod lang Williams kay pacman hangang round 12.

[flakez]

David vs Goliath dapat title ng fight nila. 6'1" vs 5'6 1/2" tukod lang Williams kay pacman hangang round 12.

ganyan din napag usapan namin ng ka opismate ko dati. hehehe.


OT lang: natawa lang ako sa isang interview ni pwill na nabasa ko.

"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not floyd. I guess floyd won't fight me because I dont have a vagina."

[igme28694]

ganyan din napag usapan namin ng ka opismate ko dati. hehehe.


OT lang: natawa lang ako sa isang interview ni pwill na nabasa ko.

"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not floyd. I guess floyd won't fight me because I dont have a vagina."

hahaha nabasa ko rin itong article na ito . tumbok na tumbok si gayweather hahahaha

[vito corleone]

sana nga pero hindi na ako umaasa. hehe.

maghamon na lang siya ng mga unthinkable fights. hehehe. gusto ko si pwill eh. hahaha. feeling ko kaya niya daanin sa bilis un. problema lang baka hindi indahin mga suntok niya. hahaha.

williams vs. pacman?

wag naman, there's a limit that a boxer can fight. . .that's the reason me weight divisions sa boxing


on catchweights, i think we should give credit manny for challenging to fight in the higher weightclass than insisting his opponent to go down to his comfortable weight limit

[chua_riwap]

What's this? Sure win na kaya bata natin?
Baka mag Ala-DeLa Joya itong si Margarito.......



http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=69

Margarito to struggle at scales?


MANILA, Philippines - Even as trainer Robert Garcia insists that Antonio Margarito will easily make the “catchweight” limit of 151 pounds, it appears the Tijuana Tornado may find it difficult when he finally tests the scales the day before his Nov. 13 appointment with Manny Pacquiao at the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

GMA News’ Chino Trinidad, reporting from Los Angeles, paid Margarito a visit in his training camp the other day and noticed the Mexican looked pale as if dehydrated from drastically taking off pounds. Margarito was observed to be out of breath in between rounds during his workout.

Trinidad estimated Margarito’s weight to be about 158 pounds. If his walking or natural weight is 160, it will be a struggle for the Mexican to make 151 in two weeks. In contrast, Pacquiao is eating heartily while maintaining about 148 and won’t have difficulty scaling within 151.

Pacquiao and Margarito are disputing the vacant WBC superwelterweight title in their 12-round bout. The limit in the superwelterweight or junior middleweight division is 154 pounds. But Pacquiao, the reigning WBO welterweight or 147-pound champion, and Margarito agreed to fight at a “catchweight” limit of 151.

“Catchweight” is a term used in setting a “compromise” limit or a “middle ground” for a championship fight where the protagonists straddle between two weight categories. In the Pacquiao-Margarito case, a “catchweight” of 151 was set as a compromise between welterweight and superwelterweight.

It won’t be a first for Pacquiao to fight at a “catchweight” limit. In November last year, he battled Miguel Cotto for the WBO welterweight crown at a “catchweight” limit of 145 although the division has a cap of 147. Pacquiao halted Cotto in the 12th round.

When Pacquiao took on Oscar de la Hoya in December 2008, they agreed to face off at the welterweight limit of 147. De la Hoya’s walking weight was much more but he punished himself in the gym to make the limit and overdid it by scaling 145. A source from Pacquiao’s corner swore that De la Hoya entered the ring with I.V. marks on his arm, indicating an infusion to counter dehydration. De la Hoya failed to answer the bell for the ninth round as Pacquiao won by technical knockout.

Pacquiao’s gamble is Margarito will be severely drained trying to make 151. De la Hoya and Cotto burned themselves out shedding weight to fight Pacquiao and paid dearly for it.

Margarito, 32, weighed 154 pounds for his fight against Roberto Garcia in Mexico last May. In his previous bout 16 months before, he scaled 145 3/4 in losing to Sugar Shane Mosley. The heaviest he ever weighed for a fight was 157 in halting Efrain Muñoz in California in 1999 when Pacquiao moved up from flyweight (112 pounds) to superbantamweight (122). In all, Margarito has scaled over 151 pounds in four fights.

Pacquiao, 31, was at his heaviest when he tipped the scales at 145 3/4 for the Joshua Clottey bout last March. He turned pro weighing 106 pounds in 1995 and gradually grew into a flyweight (112), superbantamweight (122), featherweight (126), superfeatherweight (130), lightweight (135), lightwelterweight (140), welterweight (147) and now superwelterweight (154). Pacquiao could’ve annexed two more titles as a superflyweight (115) and bantamweight (118) but chose to jump from flyweight to superbantamweight. With two more titles, Pacquiao would now be chasing a 10th championship in 10 divisions instead of an eighth.

Pacquiao has fought only thrice weighing over 140 pounds – 142 against De la Hoya, 144 against Cotto and 145 3/4 against Clottey. For the Margarito fight, he is expected to scale less than 150. Margarito may enter the ring weighing as much as 165.

Margarito attempted to win the WBO superwelterweight crown in 2004 but lost to Daniel Santos on a 10th round split technical decision. As a WBO welterweight titlist, he turned back seven challengers in a row.

Pacquiao’s ability to retain his speed and elevate his power moving from one division to another is phenomenal. Nobody in boxing history has been able to do what he has done. Weight has not been a problem for Pacquiao since he gave up the WBC flyweight title on the scales in 1999. Trainer Freddie Roach knows what is Pacquiao’s optimal fighting weight and when up against a bigger opponent, sets a “catchweight” limit to even matters.

At this point in Pacquiao’s career, he is probably in his peak at welterweight. Moving up to superwelterweight may mean biting more than he can chew. But with the “catchweight” limit as the equalizer, Pacquiao is confident of beating Margarito for the WBC 154-pound crown.

The burden of proof is on Margarito to show he can make 151 easily and fight Pacquiao without taking a step back or losing steam. If Margarito answers the first bell in tip-top condition, Pacquiao may be in for more trouble than he expects.

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To me if Margarito will fight like Muhamad Ali... where he sticks a jab then runs... jab then runs... jab then runs... jab then runs... if he kept repeating this... our Pacman might lose.

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[boybi]

What time and day ang weigh in nila? San ang venue?

[Zeus]

What time and day ang weigh in nila? San ang venue?

Ikaw yata ang official representative ng Tsikot.com sa weigh in event nila a

[Zeus]

magkano sa marriot?? sa dad's meron na din 950 yata.. sa hard rock ewan ko wala pa price eh..

Wala na pica pica sa Marriot ngayon, P500. sa theater daw ng Resorts World