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    #31
    well the "good news" is that doctors can see end-stage renal failure a mile off. meaning if you have your yearly medical checkups including the creatinine blood test etc. they can detect if your kidney function is going down several years before you will need dialysis.

    so kapag na-detect na yung signs, mag bagong buhay ka na.
    no more eating like there's no tomorrow.. nadadala naman (yata) ng diet yan meaning you can slow down the kidney failure. parang kotse din yan na laging pinapa-warm up every morning, hindi pinapa-overheat

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    shucks. had high blood pressure before yun tipo nanakit batok ko. pero natanggal ko na 4 to 6-day 30-min treadmill for over a year in 2k4. but I'm again picking up on the sweets lately.

    how 'bout taking drugs/medications before and present? kidney ba naapektuhan nito or liver. coz right now, the only medication i'm taking eh neozep pag may sakit, but rarely na. even vitamins, I don't take anymore. i'm scared of medicines/tablets eh. i read somewhere before that our body is not used to those stuff.

    am just concerned coz sometimes when I run, may kumikirot sa upper right ko, as in near the rib area.

    upper right abdomen? baka gallbladder attack. may gallstones siguro ikaw. pero im no doctor hehe

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    #33
    RUQ pain, kadalasan stones nga. Pwedeng gallbladder or dun sa mga ducts niya.

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    #34
    my mother died dahil sa kidney and diabetic pa sya.

    almost 4yrs sya dialysis at 3 times a week kailangan nya at once a month blood transfussion.

    potek naubos lahat kabuhayan namin nun dahil we need atleast 20k a week for her dialysis and medicine.

    kaya halos di na ako kumakain sa ofc para may mabigay lang ako sa nanay ko.

    tapos bumigay din ang katawan kasi di na rin nya nakayanan yung dialysis saka nagkaroon nang other complications.

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    #35
    That's what I don't understand... parents make lots of sacrifices so that their children can have a good life. Tapos some chronic end-stage disease bankrupts those very same children whom they scrimped and sacrificed for all those years?

    Parang their whole life the parents try to provide for their kids.. tapos near the end of their lives na-be-beggar yung kids I keep telling myself if I ever get to the stage where I have only a few years to live and a huge amount of money for my loved ones will get sunk into my decrepit body, magpapa-pain management nalang ako.


    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699 View Post
    my mother died dahil sa kidney and diabetic pa sya.

    almost 4yrs sya dialysis at 3 times a week kailangan nya at once a month blood transfussion.

    potek naubos lahat kabuhayan namin nun dahil we need atleast 20k a week for her dialysis and medicine.

    kaya halos di na ako kumakain sa ofc para may mabigay lang ako sa nanay ko.

    tapos bumigay din ang katawan kasi di na rin nya nakayanan yung dialysis saka nagkaroon nang other complications.

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    #36
    we always hear advice on how we can take care of our heart, lungs, liver. Like quit smoking, avoid fatty food, limit alcohol...

    But we rarely get advice on how to take care of our kidneys.

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    #37
    There are many ways to take care of our kidneys, like drinking like plenty of water, moderating the intake of sodium and proteins, exercise, etc., but some causes of CRF, like glumerulonephritis, happens even if we lead a healthy lifestyle. Unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orly_andico View Post
    That's what I don't understand... parents make lots of sacrifices so that their children can have a good life. Tapos some chronic end-stage disease bankrupts those very same children whom they scrimped and sacrificed for all those years?

    Parang their whole life the parents try to provide for their kids.. tapos near the end of their lives na-be-beggar yung kids I keep telling myself if I ever get to the stage where I have only a few years to live and a huge amount of money for my loved ones will get sunk into my decrepit body, magpapa-pain management nalang ako.
    Problem is the system we live in. we do not live in a welfare state where the state takes care of us from cradle to grave. We are basically on our own (family members have to take care of each other). even if we have medical insurance, we still have to pay for part of the expense.

    And when it comes to life threatening illnesses, the cost of trying to stay alive (or just living a little longer) is incredibly high.

    The more life-threatening the illness, the higher to cost to stay alive.

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    #39
    just my 2 cents:

    the thing with dialysis centers is that aside from the cost of the dialysis machine itself and the dialysate, anlaki ng capex at opex niyan. first you need the necessary permits from the DOH and several government institutions. ang strict ng requirements for a dialysis clinic (floor area, facilities in the center, etc) which ultimately translates to money. then you're going to need certain MOA's with certain hospitals (para kung may emergency at kelangan i-transfer ang pasyente kaagad). then you're going to need a patient transport of some sort (either your own ambulance/patient transport or a retainer with a third party company). and then there's the overhead. electricity, water, (probably) rent, taxes, etc. add the need for back-up power (cost of generator). and then personnel. kelangan mo ng licensed nephrologist (a sub-specialist). and a whole slew of medical personnel (md's, nurses, orderlies, non-medical personnel, etc). you might be surprised how much the capex and opex of a "tiny" dialysis center.

    re: asian hospital. all i can say is, its asian hospital. its like comparing buying coffee from a turo turo or karinderia and manila pen. of course mas mahal ang kape sa manila pen. you can't expect to pay karinderia price for a coffee in manila pen. i sometimes find it hard to believe that people would go to a certain institution (eg. asian hosp, manila pen) expecting so much but willing to pay for so little. you're not going to walk in to, say, people's palace and expect to pay burger machine price. there are always government hospitals. go to a charity hospital if money is an issue.

    i wonder. whenever people complain about the cost of healthcare in hospitals, can we tell the ancillary personnel (eg. orderlies, janitors, security guards, accountants, etc) na "fellow employees, because less than 1/4 ang nakabayad sa mga pasyenteng na-admit ngayong buwan na ito, 1/4 lang din ang se-swelduhin ninyo?" pwede kaya yun?

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    #40
    dagdag:

    don't get me wrong. i sympathize with dialysis patients. kawawa talaga, both patient and family. and we all wish things were different. that money can fall from trees and life is all honey and cherries. but you have to imagine that in today's society, every single thing in a hospital and in a center was paid for. from the micropore tape, to the syringes used, to the very basic oxygen being inhaled. we all wish life was truly better. but how can we cut costs? can we re-use syringes? e di na-demanda naman ang center. the truth is, society has so advanced that so many rules and criteria were made that in order to abide by them, it will cost someone (or somebody) a great deal of money.

    if the hospital doesn't pay the company that supplies oxygen (because ang konti ng pasyenteng nagbayad for the month), paano na? anong oxygen ang ibibigay sa next patient?

    and guys, dialysis patients pa lang ang dini-discuss dito. what about cancer patients? can you imagine how expensive a chemotherapy session costs? what about lupus patients? or choriocarcinoma patients? there was this story about a patient who had absolutely no money, who came in the ER for hypokalemia periodic paralysis (HPP). his potassium was so low that he could barely breathe. there was no kalium durule available in the hospital so the patient was asked to buy potassium citrate (oral na lang - at least may ginangawa di ba?). the oral potassium citrate costs just P50 pero hindi nakabili ang pasyente. sad to say, the patient was found dead the next day. nakahandusay sa bangketa. dahil hindi makabili ng P50 na gamot. mapapaisip ka: magkano ba buhay ng tao? would you (you, the person reading this piece) give P50 to this unfortunate man? now, can you can imagine how many people have HPP? will you be willing to give potassium citrate at P50 a pop to 10 patients a day? what will you do with the 11th patient?

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