Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[jut703]

Hi Just, how's your Daikin? Considering having one installed also in our sala dahil sa sobrang init, how much na kaya ang going price ngayon, complete with installation? 1.5 hp or 2.0 hp? Area is around 40 sqm, but with 2nd floor na around 20sqm.

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Super happy with my Daikins so far bro.

I have a 2 hp for my ~35 sqm living room. 1 hp for my bedroom. Total electricity bill ko per month around 1.5k lang.

Total cost for the 2 Daikins was 87k 2 yrs ago kasama installation with extra pipes (around 20 ft).

Magpapakabit din ako for our house naman, 31.5k for the mid-range Daikin (higher EER vs entry level 28k), including first 10 ft installation na.


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[papi smith]

The rule is generally 1hp per 10sqm

But residential can be a little less


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Thanks, max ng split is 3hp, bitin pa pala ito.

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[papi smith]

Super happy with my Daikins so far bro.

I have a 2 hp for my ~35 sqm living room. 1 hp for my bedroom. Total electricity bill ko per month around 1.5k lang.

Total cost for the 2 Daikins was 87k 2 yrs ago kasama installation with extra pipes (around 20 ft).

Magpapakabit din ako for our house naman, 31.5k for the mid-range Daikin (higher EER vs entry level 28k), including first 10 ft installation na.


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Hindi siguro overworked ang AC sa condo kaya mababa ang consumption and the kwh rate is lower as consumption goes lower. Our next bill is expected at 4k from our 3k average. 2 units 1.5 hp but only around 9 hours each daily. But we use electricity for cooking and washmac 5x a week, aside from the usual home appliances.

Edit add: nag ac nga pala kami sa hapon on weekends lately hehe, ung daughter ko ayaw mag ac sa hapon, kasi malakas ang cool breeze sa room nya

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[WallyWest]

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You'd probably need a ceiling mounted cassette type - the one used in offices.

[ice15]

using a multi-split A/C (1.5hp living room, 1hp bedroom - single outdoor unit)...

A/C contractor (he's cheapest I found, PM me if you want his details for a possible quote) recommended Daikin over Mitsubishi

Mas mura yung Mitsubishi and outdoor unit was smaller, kaso Daikin uses the newer R12 gas which is also more efficient.

Multi-split Mitsubishi (I think 3 times na kami nagpalit in the past) gamit namin for the longest time so first time using an A/C without "windfree/3D air," medyo may adjustment period pa for indoor parties (pinapatay nung A/C yung candles ng cake)

Kahit walang "windfree/3D air" si Daikin, some positives...
- quiet mode - para di maingay si outdoor unit (kung gusto gamitin yung balcony for yosi break)
- motion detect - mag adjust 2degrees higher yung thermostat kapag walang movement na nadetect si A/C

[travajante]

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You'd probably need a ceiling mounted cassette type - the one used in offices.

Where there are options, I'd stay away from cassettes. Drain requires pump function, lines above the ceiling need extra insulation + gutter system, & the ceiling where 1's installed on is best of washable material or coating. The areas around the vents have the tendency to get dirty. Cleaning of both the unit & the surrounds will take a bit more care.
When line leaks happen, expect access & damage to the ceiling.
Cassettes are wonderful for the 'industrial' ceilingless approaches, though. Air distribution by these can be even & area-dedicated.

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[dr. d]

Where there are options, I'd stay away from cassettes. Drain requires pump function, lines above the ceiling need extra insulation + gutter system, & the ceiling where 1's installed on is best of washable material or coating. The areas around the vents have the tendency to get dirty. Cleaning of both the unit & the surrounds will take a bit more care.
When line leaks happen, expect access & damage to the ceiling.
Cassettes are wonderful for the 'industrial' ceilingless approaches, though. Air distribution by these can be even & area-dedicated.

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madalas namin tawagin ang aircon maintenance in the workplace, due to our cassette aircon's "needing more than its fair share of servicing", compared to the alternative.
hassle din serbisin. mabusisi.
one would probably favor it because one has no alternative.

[viper888]

Dont use a cassette type for a house

Use wall mounted or floor standing

Also larger aircons might require 3 phase power


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[Papajamba]

Dont use a cassette type for a house

Use wall mounted or floor standing

Also larger aircons might require 3 phase power


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Best for a house that requires 3hp is still a split type vs floor mount. No need for 3phase power supply sa split, floor mounted needs 3 phase power.
Also, cheaper split type in terms of unit cost and unit cleaning.
We have 2 units of 3hp non-inverter splits for our sala. Yun lang nga, they’re Kolin and sirain sya! 6 years old and we have replaced the capacitors around 3-4x, changed the pcbs once. Now 1 unit just blows uncooled air and emits an error again.


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[viper888]

Best for a house that requires 3hp is still a split type vs floor mount. No need for 3phase power supply sa split, floor mounted needs 3 phase power.
Also, cheaper split type in terms of unit cost and unit cleaning.
We have 2 units of 3hp non-inverter splits for our sala. Yun lang nga, they’re Kolin and sirain sya! 6 years old and we have replaced the capacitors around 3-4x, changed the pcbs once. Now 1 unit just blows uncooled air and emits an error again.


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Daiken and Mit Air have floor standing units that use single phase power

But at 3hp, a wall mounted FCU is better

Floor standing is up to 6hp


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[Deestone]

Im now choosing betwee Panasonic, Daikin and Midea my top 3 choices for aircon they have relatively the same price at 32k to 35k. Which would you recommend?

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[Deestone]

Im now choosing betwee 1.5hp Panasonic, Daikin and Midea my top 3 choices for aircon they have relatively the same price at 32k to 35k. Which would you recommend? Low cost and have high fan speed.




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[JohnM]

Im now choosing betwee 1.5hp Panasonic, Daikin and Midea my top 3 choices for aircon they have relatively the same price at 32k to 35k. Which would you recommend? Low cost and have high fan speed.

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Our 2-year -Panasonics have been ok so far. We got the basic versions with no extra features. The Auto Mode spins the blower to above max speed when they are first turned on and the room is warm. They then stabilize when the required temp is reached. Cleaning has been pain-free as the technicians haven't had problems disassembling and reassembling them.

I noticed something strange about them though. I usually set them to 26C for normal day-to-day activities. If the vent is all the way up it feels warmer than usual after a while and the AC spends most of its time idling. But if I set the vent 2-3 steps down then they spool up and it feels colder than 26C. I'm not sure if it's because of the room design but both the 2.5 in the sala and the 2.0 in the bedroom have the same peculiarities. I can set the vent to Auto and that should "fix" this.

[Archerfish]

Im now choosing betwee Panasonic, Daikin and Midea my top 3 choices for aircon they have relatively the same price at 32k to 35k. Which would you recommend?

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I've seen Daikin being used in the maritime industry. If such brand is approved as "marine type", then it should be tough.

Just imagine such vessels tilting at 15 degrees from the vertical, coursing through a swell of 5 meters, yawing and pitching, even pounding! So yes, it should be tough.

[Papajamba]

Im now choosing betwee 1.5hp Panasonic, Daikin and Midea my top 3 choices for aircon they have relatively the same price at 32k to 35k. Which would you recommend? Low cost and have high fan speed.




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For me, Panasonic is a half-notch higher than Daikin.
Panasonic units in my parents house are 8-9 years old and still quiet and cold. Kaka-pull down lang for cleaning and no problems.
1 Daikin sa clinic ni misis nasira at need paayos kahit 2 years old pa lang. Pati yung daikin unit sa room namin sa amorita resort bohol, sira at pinalipat pa kami ng room.

Never iconsider Midea, chinese brand eh meron naman reliable japanese and korean brands.


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[Walter]

A unit used at home cannot be compared to one that is used commercially ...

[Papajamba]

A unit used at home cannot be compared to one that is used commercially ...

Why not?
The Panasonic AC at home is used 9pm-8am.
The Daikin AC at the clinic is used 9am-5pm only but still broke.

Maganda din nga to get the experience of restos and commercial establishments to which brand that gives them the less headaches


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[dr. d]

Why not?
The Panasonic AC at home is used 9pm-8am.
The Daikin AC at the clinic is used 9am-5pm only but still broke.

Maganda din nga to get the experience of restos and commercial establishments to which brand that gives them the less headaches


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it depends on the working conditions that the aircon is subjected to.

is the aircon cooling a small room that has little foot traffic and is not subject to external heat during operation, whereupon it cycles fan-cool-fan-cool regularly?
or is the aircon cooling a larger room with lots of people walking in and out, and whose walls and ceiling are constantly bombarded by the hot sun outside during operation, whereupon the aircon is always on cool and never on fan?

in my opinion,
aircons in residences fare better than aircons in places of business or commerce,
simply because they are cared for less in the latter, where some folks just do not care for them the way home owners care for them.
opinion lang.

[papi smith]

I've seen Daikin being used in the maritime industry. If such brand is approved as "marine type", then it should be tough.

Just imagine such vessels tilting at 15 degrees from the vertical, coursing through a swell of 5 meters, yawing and pitching, even pounding! So yes, it should be tough.

For a moment there, I thought I was reading an adult magazine [emoji23]

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[Deestone]

For me, Panasonic is a half-notch higher than Daikin.
Panasonic units in my parents house are 8-9 years old and still quiet and cold. Kaka-pull down lang for cleaning and no problems.
1 Daikin sa clinic ni misis nasira at need paayos kahit 2 years old pa lang. Pati yung daikin unit sa room namin sa amorita resort bohol, sira at pinalipat pa kami ng room.

Never iconsider Midea, chinese brand eh meron naman reliable japanese and korean brands.


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Okay thank u for this honestly im leaning towards panasonic because it is a much well known brand and I have a panasonic inverter ref and still working fine but daikin should be okay too just wondering why your daikin broke down easily in just a short span.

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