Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[Deestone]

This is the photo I took yesterday at sm appliances both are 1.5Hp inverter type the bigger one cost 35k and the smaller one 32k but the sales person told me the bigger one is more energy efficient and blows much stronger.

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[dr. d]

This is the photo I took yesterday at sm appliances both are 1.5Hp inverter type the bigger one cost 35k and the smaller one 32k but the sales person told me the bigger one is more energy efficient and blows much stronger.

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"the right tool for the right job."
match your choice of aircon, with your room's conditions.
we can all imagine just how (un-) cool the room can be, if it is serviced by an under-powered aircon.

[travajante]

Okay thank u for this honestly im leaning towards panasonic because it is a much well known brand and I have a panasonic inverter ref and still working fine but daikin should be okay too just wondering why your daikin broke down easily in just a short span.

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Splits? Daikin>Panasonic, hands down, sir. With any brand, just make sure you've the install done right & periodic maintenance attended to religiously....like cars, helps extend service life.

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[Deestone]

Btw, here is the 1.5hp daikin i saw yesterday.... different inverter type aircon also has different efficiency rating I havent check yet the efficiency rating but is daikin genereally among the top 5 or 3 aircon in efficiency?

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[Archerfish]

it depends on the working conditions that the aircon is subjected to.

...

in my opinion,
aircons in residences fare better than aircons in places of business or commerce,
simply because they are cared for less in the latter, where some folks just do not care for them the way home owners care for them.
opinion lang.

Right! One example is in a faculty room where the teachers are complaining that the said unit is no longer cooling the room unlike before. I asked my wife if the air filter is being cleaned every week and she said no.

[dr. d]

Right! One example is in a faculty room where the teachers are complaining that the said unit is no longer cooling the room unlike before. I asked my wife if the air filter is being cleaned every week and she said no.

in our case,
the aircon wouldn't cool well no more.
when we opened it to clean the filter...
"where's the filter!"
we were faced with a filter-less set of dirt-clogged heat exchange fins...

[Archerfish]

im leaning towards panasonic because it is a much well known brand

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This is understandable, just like with audio system. You'll often hear brands like JBL, Bose, etc. but not the brands favored by enthusiasts.

Hitachi is also a "common brand" in hotels, and in other establishments as mentioned by *Gumusut_Amige.

As what *travajante have said, whatever brand you choose, just make sure proper maintenance is done and have an oversized drain. I've seen a few units where an annoying leak is caused by a clogged drain pipe.

[Archerfish]

in our case,
the aircon wouldn't cool well no more.
when we opened it to clean the filter...
"where's the filter!"
we were faced with a filter-less set of dirt-clogged heat exchange fins...

That is a catastrophic filter! [emoji3]

[dr. d]

As what *travajante have said, whatever brand you choose, just make sure proper maintenance is done and have an oversized drain. I've seen a few units where an annoying leak is caused by a clogged drain pipe.

my colleague had her pipes buried in the wall.
when it started giving problems,
she had to bakbak the wall.

i have seen some examples, where an aquarium pump-like gadget, would pump the drain water out...
i am wondering, isn't this a design waiting to malfunction?

[Archerfish]

For a moment there, I thought I was reading an adult magazine [emoji23]

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You naughty boy! Now, I couldn't remove the thought...

Tilting, then yawing and pitching, sometimes rolling, and pounding finally! Such merchant vessels are wonderful works of men.
[emoji3]

[Archerfish]

my colleague had her pipes buried in the wall.
when it started giving problems,
she had to bakbak the wall.

i have seen some examples, where an aquarium pump-like gadget, would pump the drain water out...
i am wondering, isn't this a design waiting to malfunction?

In an ideal condition, it should pose no problem theoretically. We all know that foreign materials, no matter how small it is, will accumulate in the drain pipe and thereby clogging it up.

Same thing with the ideal air to fuel ratio, and so we have "excess air", but I digress, and such topic of ICE is way long gone now in my memory.

Going back, economically speaking, or rather in a profitable manner, why should a contractor spend more by installing a larger sized pipe when a small and cheaper one will do for the next five years? If it leaks, then the said contractor is no longer liable as it is beyond the warranty period.

[dr. d]

Going back, economically speaking, or rather in a profitable manner, why should a contractor spend more by installing a larger sized pipe when a small and cheaper one will do for the next five years? If it leaks, then the said contractor is no longer liable as it is beyond the warranty period.

going back,
"oversize that drain! insist on it!"
personally, i would insist on at least double the inner diameter.
and i would insist on effective gravity stimulus in its installation.

[travajante]

In an ideal condition, it should pose no problem theoretically. We all know that foreign materials, no matter how small it is, will accumulate in the drain pipe and thereby clogging it up.

Same thing with the ideal air to fuel ratio, and so we have "excess air", but I digress, and such topic of ICE is way long gone now in my memory.

Going back, economically speaking, or rather in a profitable manner, why should a contractor spend more by installing a larger sized pipe when a small and cheaper one will do for the next five years? If it leaks, then the said contractor is no longer liable as it is beyond the warranty period.

It's not your installer who'll be enjoying the AC. His job is to initially make it work...the more repeat work, the merrier.[emoji4]

going back,
"oversize that drain! insist on it!"
personally, i would insist on at least double the inner diameter.
and i would insist on effective gravity stimulus in its installation.

Yes yes yes & the shorter the route, the better.[emoji4]



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[Papajamba]

Make sure too that the installer is an accredited one by the AC company and a reliable one so that they’re easy to talk to with regards to warranty claims. May mga lemon units talaga.
Dami ngayon sa FB pages na AC companies with lots of good reviews and cheaper prices din vs the appliance centers


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[Walter]

Why not?
The Panasonic AC at home is used 9pm-8am.
The Daikin AC at the clinic is used 9am-5pm only but still broke.

Not the same environment ... number of people ... frequent opening of doors ... dust ... etc ...

[Walter]

in my opinion,
aircons in residences fare better than aircons in places of business or commerce,
simply because they are cared for less in the latter, where some folks just do not care for them the way home owners care for them.
opinion lang.

Agreed ...

[Walter]

Make sure the outdoor unit is positioned in a well ventilated area ... this is one of the reasons why units used in commercial areas do not last long ...

[dr. d]

Make sure the outdoor unit is positioned in a well ventilated area ... this is one of the reasons why units used in commercial areas do not last long ...

well-ventilated and away from the elements.
gawan ng doghouse or bubong kung kinakailangan...

and protect from small animals (insects and such).
there were posts some time back, the electronic circuits were ruined when creepy crawlers managed to crawl into them.

[12vdc]

Make sure also to maintain the proper length of refrigerant plumbing, too short could be problematic.

[gearhead000]

I currently have a 1.0HP LG HSN09ISS dual-inverter type aircon and a Daikin FTKC35TVM 1.5HP in another room, also inverter type.

So far I much prefer the LG. Cools my room quite fast. Well, given it's in a smaller room, pero mas mabilis ko maramdaman yung pagbuga ng malamig na hangin sa kanya while it takes a while kay Daikin. Probably one of the advantages ng dual-inverter. Additionally, mas maraming available nice features kay LG. You can run it at 100% - 80% - 60% or 40%. Since naka-solar naman ako I run it initially at 100 ~ 80%. Then kapag malamig na talaga pwedeng 60% na lang. Kung gabi na at mainit pa rin, I can run it at 40% only with target temp of 24~25 degrees. Kay Daikin available settings lang ay Econo, Comfort, at Powerful. Econo mode only limits the starting current, Comfort directs the airflow away from the room occupants, and Powerful runs the aircon in Max for 20 minutes. Then it's back to Normal again. So most of the time naka-Normal operation si Daikin.

You can also set the on/off timer of the LG via realtime clock. Kay Daikin steps of 1 hour lang. So pwedeng 1 hour, 2 hours, 3 hours, etc. mo lang siya mase-set unlike kay LG which is in steps of 10 minutes based on realtime clock (like turning off at either 11:30pm or 11:40pm). I think a bit quieter din si LG.

Daikin naman is known more for reliability. I only have both aircon less than 7 months and both have seen much use basically at the onset of this summer. So keeping my fingers crossed na tumagal sila pareho, or provide me with a long worry free service.