Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[kkreuk18]

I noticed some technicians and salesmen are a bit OA in my opinion when it comes to HP needed. Before I bought our AC the salesman asked for our floor area. He then said I needed a 1.5HP (which is the one I had in mind of getting), but suggested a 2HP to be safe. I thought it was overkill (and overbudget too). He said technicians may refuse to install and may void the warranty if they deem the area too big. I said, "eh di antayin na lang natin kung ayaw, isoli ko for a refund". He also suggested I a 2HP but non-inverter type, mas mabilis daw lumamig para tipid, which I refused as I felt he was pushing old, inefficient and likely non-selling items.

When the technicians came they also began measuring the floor area, and also warned me that I was I at their boundary (only less than 2sqm from their max limit). But they installed anyway. In reality, the room is now quite cold even when the AC is set at 24C.

Kahit ako palaging mas malaki kinukuha ko sa required hp para hindi pwersado at mas matibay at tipid sa kuryente

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[misseksaherada]

He said technicians may refuse to install and may void the warranty if they deem the area too big.
When the technicians came they also began measuring the floor area, and also warned me that I was I at their boundary (only less than 2sqm from their max limit). But they installed anyway. In reality, the room is now quite cold even when the AC is set at 24C.

Naku yan din ang sinabi sakin.. Ma-void daw ang warranty if mag-install ako ng lower HP sa recommended nila.. Not sure kung naloko na naman ako.. Hahahahahaha [emoji23] hirap talaga kapag walang alam.. 2.5HP tuloy nabili ko..
Napa-check ako photos.. 2 years na pala.. April 18, 2018 ko nabili.. from window-type nag-split-type inverter kami.. based sa electric bill namin, after 2 years balik puhunan na.. Pero di pa bawi.. From almost Php 10k na 12 hours lang ang gamit sa window type.. Php 2.5-4.5K na lang ang bill namin na 21 hours or minsan walang patayan tapos buong bahay na pwera kusina (buti na lang maliit din bahay namin [emoji28])..

[Wh1stl3r]

Hinde pa. Mahirap na.


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Nilinisan ko lang muna mga filter pero medyo madumi na rin yung coils.

Re:
Inverter vs non inverter, too soon to tell if durability will be the same, but in theory the compressor and other mechanical parts should last longer. The Jap brands are good. Just stay away from Samsung.

Our floor standing 4hp Sharp AC conked out after around 9 years. Instead of having it repaired, since it was old we replaced it with a 3 hp Daikin inverter. We are saving around 2-3 thousand pesos on electricity with the same usage. Both ACs were the recommended size by the technicians.

[shadow]

Nilinisan ko lang muna mga filter pero medyo madumi na rin yung coils.

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Inverter vs non inverter, too soon to tell if durability will be the same, but in theory the compressor and other mechanical parts should last longer. The Jap brands are good. Just stay away from Samsung.

Our floor standing 4hp Sharp AC conked out after around 9 years. Instead of having it repaired, since it was old we replaced it with a 3 hp Daikin inverter. We are saving around 2-3 thousand pesos on electricity with the same usage. Both ACs were the recommended size by the technicians.

Ni-vacuum ko mga coils ng mga A/C ewan ko kung nakatulong saka bumili ako sa True value nun foam spray sa coils pang linis daw.


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[sirkosero]

I noticed some technicians and salesmen are a bit OA in my opinion when it comes to HP needed. Before I bought our AC the salesman asked for our floor area. He then said I needed a 1.5HP (which is the one I had in mind of getting), but suggested a 2HP to be safe. I thought it was overkill (and overbudget too). He said technicians may refuse to install and may void the warranty if they deem the area too big. I said, "eh di antayin na lang natin kung ayaw, isoli ko for a refund". He also suggested I a 2HP but non-inverter type, mas mabilis daw lumamig para tipid, which I refused as I felt he was pushing old, inefficient and likely non-selling items.

When the technicians came they also began measuring the floor area, and also warned me that I was I at their boundary (only less than 2sqm from their max limit). But they installed anyway. In reality, the room is now quite cold even when the AC is set at 24C.

For inverter, get the next higher available. The first 1-2 hours is not different from regular vs inverter aircon. Its on the 3rd hour you start getting the savings.

The faster the room cools, the faster you benefit from the inverter kasi maintenance of temperature na lang ang running cost nya which only uses about 30-40% electricity.

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[Wh1stl3r]

Ni-vacuum ko mga coils ng mga A/C ewan ko kung nakatulong saka bumili ako sa True value nun foam spray sa coils pang linis daw.


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Yung Wd-40 aircon cleaner ba yan? Ok naman? Sabi mabaho daw.

[shadow]

Yung Wd-40 aircon cleaner ba yan? Ok naman? Sabi mabaho daw.

Hinde wd-40 brand eh nakalimutan ko brand pero yun made in singapore.

Ayun! Mr mckenic mabantot talaga kaya lalabas ka talaga ng kwarto basta amoy mo pa rin chemicals.


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[sirkosero]

Hinde wd-40 brand eh nakalimutan ko brand pero yun made in singapore.

Ayun! Mr mckenic mabantot talaga kaya lalabas ka talaga ng kwarto basta amoy mo pa rin chemicals.


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Gumamit ako neto. after 1 month, butas fins ng aircon. Haaay. Nung pinagawa ko, may signs of corossion yung aluminum

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[shadow]

Gumamit ako neto. after 1 month, butas fins ng aircon. Haaay. Nung pinagawa ko, may signs of corossion yung aluminum

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Hinde yan ang dahilan baka talaga meron na kalawang yun fins sa gilid-gilid tapos pag spray mo malakas talag cleaning agent kaya naalis yun kalawang.


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[Flipo]

Ang dapat linisin sa AC ay yung evaporator at condenser radiator, thru pressurised water pump.

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[dr. d]

i agree.
pressurized water is the better choice for AC coil cleaner.

some products work thru acid, which can eat thru already-thin segments of the metal coils, resulting to holes.
the same with alkaline-based cleaners.
but because they are convenient to use, compared to the alternative, they tend to be popular.

[12vdc]

Just clean with water from not so loud pressure that could damage the alum fins. Don't use cleaners or lye to clean the molds, bilad lang sa araw.

As for the inverters ang unang bumibigay ay mainboard since DC switching power supply ang gamit to turn DC motors, parang PS ng computer at LED TV's. Ang nirerecommend nila yung Daikin na designed ang inverter sa wide input voltage parang up to 90 to 450V at surge na 650V AC?

Kung patibayan lang, mas matibay ang traditional mechanical thermostat, ang panira lang talaga ay electronics at sensors.

Oversizing by 150% is fine di bale sobra wag kulang dahil na overwork ang compressor. Wag din babad sa aircon na sarado bintana baka ma CO2 poisoning po, at matutuyo lalamunan nyo at uubuhin prang symptom ng COVID19.

[shadow]

Ang dapat linisin sa AC ay yung evaporator at condenser radiator, thru pressurised water pump.

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We know but we are in the context of not able to get it service because of the China flu.

If walang pandemic eh di hinde na pinag uusapan dahil mapa service na.


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[kkreuk18]

Maganda din palang panglinis ang fabcon sa evaporator. Nakita kong ginamit nung nagpapull down ako ng indoor unit

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[sirkosero]

Hinde yan ang dahilan baka talaga meron na kalawang yun fins sa gilid-gilid tapos pag spray mo malakas talag cleaning agent kaya naalis yun kalawang.


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I clean aircons myself using pressure washers. Only 1 time i decided to try coil cleaners. Supposedly spray and iwan lang and use the aircon para magpawis at malinis. Wala naman kalawang before i used the mckenic solution. Nagkaroon about a month after. Ganda ng timing IMO

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[Wh1stl3r]

Gumamit ako neto. after 1 month, butas fins ng aircon. Haaay. Nung pinagawa ko, may signs of corossion yung aluminum

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Buti nabasa ko ito. Will stay away from those sprays.

Just clean with water from not so loud pressure that could damage the alum fins. Don't use cleaners or lye to clean the molds, bilad lang sa araw.

As for the inverters ang unang bumibigay ay mainboard since DC switching power supply ang gamit to turn DC motors, parang PS ng computer at LED TV's. Ang nirerecommend nila yung Daikin na designed ang inverter sa wide input voltage parang up to 90 to 450V at surge na 650V AC?

Kung patibayan lang, mas matibay ang traditional mechanical thermostat, ang panira lang talaga ay electronics at sensors.

Oversizing by 150% is fine di bale sobra wag kulang dahil na overwork ang compressor. Wag din babad sa aircon na sarado bintana baka ma CO2 poisoning po, at matutuyo lalamunan nyo at uubuhin prang symptom ng COVID19.

Yep bro Daikin claims their can handle high and low voltage. For FTKC series at least. Not sure for other models.

As for cleaning, yung pag baklas lang naman problem ko. Masyadong mabigat ang kamay. Kung yung cover ng window type nga napuputol ko yung hinges, ito pa kaya.

[StockEngine]

Buti nabasa ko ito. Will stay away from those sprays.



Yep bro Daikin claims their can handle high and low voltage. For FTKC series at least. Not sure for other models.

As for cleaning, yung pag baklas lang naman problem ko. Masyadong mabigat ang kamay. Kung yung cover ng window type nga napuputol ko yung hinges, ito pa kaya.

Na-appreciate ko yun LG split ko. The cover for the filter is thick, the snap-on feels like it will last 10yrs or so. The Split Gree's I have are slightly thinner compared to the LGs. Both have bad mesh filters though. I wish they were finer to avoid clogging the evap.

[ninjababez]

Na-appreciate ko yun LG split ko. The cover for the filter is thick, the snap-on feels like it will last 10yrs or so. The Split Gree's I have are slightly thinner compared to the LGs. Both have bad mesh filters though. I wish they were finer to avoid clogging the evap.

madalas bro pag sobrang fine, nag yeyelo din evap kahit bago yung AC (1 year old)
if familiar ka sa 3m filter, yun ginamit ng friend ko sa AC nya. nagtaka bakit di nalamig nag yelo na pala

[bugsmobile]

How about Matrix brand? Any reviews? They’re relatively cheaper than the other brands.

Plan to put a 2.5 split type for the house. It’s an open type living, dining, & kitchen. Sqm is a bit over the required area. I saw that max for a 3.5hp is 43sqm. I measured the whole area & it’s around 48sqm. I haven’t subtracted the cabinets of the kitchen yet though. Would that be ok? I’ll probably just use electric fans to compensate if it’s not cool enough?

[StockEngine]

How about Matrix brand? Any reviews? They’re relatively cheaper than the other brands.

Plan to put a 2.5 split type for the house. It’s an open type living, dining, & kitchen. Sqm is a bit over the required area. I saw that max for a 3.5hp is 43sqm. I measured the whole area & it’s around 48sqm. I haven’t subtracted the cabinets of the kitchen yet though. Would that be ok? I’ll probably just use electric fans to compensate if it’s not cool enough?

the compressor will never even reach 10-50% regulation during the day time. regulating that 20C will be difficult. is the ceiling insulated? using fans do not drop the temps. the AC will still try to reach the target temps, this means the compressor will run more than 50% (power consumption of almost 1500w? guesstimation lng)



no name brands might not have spare parts readily available though these won't fail that fast.