Meralco Crap

[wilcats]

guys may laban pba kame dito??

01-05 payan... its unfair naman bgla nlg kme singilin ng ganun kalaki...

[BlueBimmer]

naku..try consulting your family lawyer..

[wilcats]

bka may mga lawyer dito.... anu po maadvys nyo...

[coiter]

baka mahirapan kayong ilaban. baka best bet nyo na lang is negotiate na installment ang pagbayad. or maybe a good lawyer can answer this

[chua_riwap]

Wow! P170K plus......

Sorry for my ignorance, pero, ano ba yung "Wrong Demad Due to Incorrect Placement of Decimal" sa metro? Ito ba yung monthly na meter reading na ginagawa ng Meralco? Dapat ata yung meter reader ang tanungin muna bakit nagkamali.

[mazdamazda]

well... how much was your electric consumption between the said dates?

kung talagang mababa... then... may sira nga.

try coordinating with the persons listed... baka naman pwede installment basis yan.

[wilcats]

well malaki parin. kse may elevator dun eh... i divided the amount, mga 3,500 kulang each month... yeah pwede namn installment pero need daw down ng 30% pa.. tpos in 2 years lng..

hassle parin diba

[wrcastro_ph]

Walang hiya talaga yang Meralco na yan..... Eh di nyo naman kasalanan kung Sira man ang Metro nyo..... tapos sisingilin kayo ng ganyang? kalaki?

[Bry]

Wow malaking pera din yan ah..... I hope this gets settled soon. Good luck bro.

[Altis6453]

I'd advise you not to pay or at least negotiate to pay about half or just 1/4 of their billing. Check the billing period if it encompasses the time when the Supreme Court ordered a refund to consumers. You have a right to rely on the correctness of the electric meter you are using, especially since the defect was not due to your fault.

I'd contest this all the way, bro. Complain ka sa ERC.

[boybi]

nangyari din sa amin yan dati. more than 10yrs ago na. basta sinabihan lang kami na may problem yung meter namin at dapat palitan. so ok, then pagdating ng electric bill next month, lumaki yung babayaran namin, so reklamo kami. tapos sinabi sa amin na kaya mababa yung bill namin dati dahil defective nga yung metro. hindi naman na daw nila sisingilin yung kulang, so hindi na kami nagreklamo

[pajerokid]

If you really did consume said disputed charges, then you indeed need to settle this.

Kaya lang they should accept your payments in installments. kalokohan naman bayaran ito ng isang bagsak.

Further, you can complain that it's not your fault, baka pwede ma-haggle.

Goodluck bro.

[Flagg]

Pwede mo yan i-delay. Hingi ka proof, lalo na pano nila na-correct yung previous periods e di na naka-indicate sa metro yun? Dapat maraming proof. Consult mo sa lawyer mo, baka pede din ma-involve ERC dyan.

[caloyski5]

tama sila. . kung tama, dapat payag ng installment ang meralco.

[vicoyski]

It seems that you actually used the power, but failed to pay the correct amount for it due to the error in the meter decimal point. If you ask me, dapat bayaran talaga yan, 'coz everybody else will end-up paying for that through the System Loss Charge in our bills. And, that isn't fair to everyone elsa, 'di ba?

Ask Mr. Vargas na lang for installment payment, 'coz 'di mo rin naman kasalanan that the meter was in error. Also, you were paying in good faith with no intention of stealing power. Tell him Vicoy referred you - tapos ilag ka ng mabilis... Nay!

[111prez]

bro -- you might want to check the erc website: www.erc.gov.ph

if you are a residential user, the magna carta for residential electricity consumers will be helpful for your case. there are rights of the electricity consumer there

also, the supreme court has already decided a case similar to your case.

have your lawyer check this: vibram manufacturing corporation vs MERALCO, GR No. 149052, decided august 9, 2005. its the same situation as you are in now. unfortunately though, it was decided in favor of MERALCO but you can check the arguments used by vibram in its case

i hope that this helps

[wowiesy]

It seems that you actually used the power, but failed to pay the correct amount for it due to the error in the meter decimal point. If you ask me, dapat bayaran talaga yan, 'coz everybody else will end-up paying for that through the System Loss Charge in our bills. And, that isn't fair to everyone elsa, 'di ba?

Ask Mr. Vargas na lang for installment payment, 'coz 'di mo rin naman kasalanan that the meter was in error. Also, you were paying in good faith with no intention of stealing power. Tell him Vicoy referred you - tapos ilang ka ng mabilis... Nay!

teka... if they are already charging the public for losses under the System Loss Charge item... wouldn't it be UNJUST ENRICHMENT on the part of Meralco if they charge it to their general users under the System Loss Charge, and then again collect the "losses in the past" from a particular consumer that they so happen to have evidence of some losses....

nagiging doble bale eh di ba? nakasisingil sila ng paunti unti sa LAHAT ng meralco consumers under the System Loss Charge (which may or may not be meralco's fault) .. and yet kapag may na discover silang consumer na pinagdududahan nila (or even with evidence) na mukhang mas mababa ang naibayad sa kanila sisingilin nila uli.... eh di doble singil na sila dun?

[vicoyski]

teka... if they are already charging the public for losses under the System Loss Charge item... wouldn't it be UNJUST ENRICHMENT on the part of Meralco if they charge it to their general users under the System Loss Charge, and then again collect the "losses in the past" from a particular consumer that they so happen to have evidence of some losses....

nagiging doble bale eh di ba? nakasisingil sila ng paunti unti sa LAHAT ng meralco consumers under the System Loss Charge (which may or may not be meralco's fault) .. and yet kapag may na discover silang consumer na pinagdududahan nila (or even with evidence) na mukhang mas mababa ang naibayad sa kanila sisingilin nila uli.... eh di doble singil na sila dun?

I believe it's not that simple...

Actually, recovering such unaccounted electricity consumption lowers the system losses of utilities. In effect, these recoveries lower the system loss charge. These system recoveries are always accounted for and go to lowering the system loss for the next charging cycle. Yari sila kung may doble singil, 'coz may receipts ang kada transaction.

You also have to remember that the ERC is out to protect us consumers. They would have penalized Meralco and all the other utilities who have been doing this practice for a very long time.

[Walter]

One cannot verify anymore used the electricity that they said we consumed since it's been years. It's not right for a company to just come knocking on your door after years and say you still owe them money. How would you feel if a company just came to you, for example PLDT, and tell you that you have unpaid long distance bills from a decade ago? The big problem now is that Meralco is the only one who provides electricity. If it were a telephone company, you can always switch to another company.

[Josh0027]

Imho, it's meralcos fault for giving you a defective meter. Mabibigla talaga at magagalit talaga ako. I paid what I owe you so why do I have to pay you more? It might be one sided but you should not pay for someone else's mistake.

Go to your lawyer so you know where you stand. Deym presyo na ayn ng second hand tsikot.... good luck!