PAF Pilots Take Flight Lessons by Computer (instead of Flight Simulators)

[mazdamazda]

The $1 question is, do we really need to buy fighter jets??

Ahhh... good point there... that is what I am also thinking. Given our current financial standing, purchasing hi-tech fighter jets should not even be the priority of the PAF. I am not saying that I don't like to see an F/A-18 Hornet patrolling our skies with A-10s & A-64s supporting our ground troops... but let's be realistic.

Let's start with a simulated war scenario with China... let's assume that we have a few Hornets sitting at Villamor, Sangley or Basa Airbase. China wouldn't start a war using fighter jets, they'll bomb us first with their ballistic missiles - targeting the above mentioned airbases & radar stations. Since we don't have a missile defense, it'll render our fighter aircrafts as sitting targets.

As long as we keep our mutual defense pacts intact, we can survive an attack by a hostile nation and also act as a deterrent against any aggressor. And as you can recall, wars are won on the ground not from the sky.

Though one medium-term need for a fighter jet is to counter a 9/11 type of terrorist threat. Can you imagine a 747 crashing to the Makati CBD?

[FrankDrebin]

Looks like we need a continuation of this thread. :D

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...775#post588775

[FrankDrebin]

IMO, PAF needs more support and cargo vehicles than attack jets.

[empy]

Though one medium-term need for a fighter jet is to counter a 9/11 type of terrorist threat. Can you imagine a 747 crashing to the Makati CBD?

tama....the PAF should purchase at least one state-of-the-art jet fighter.



they could name it 'Air Force One' :2thumbsup:

[need4speed]

tama....the PAF should purchase at least one state-of-the-art jet fighter.



they could name it 'Air Force One' :2thumbsup:

a more appropriate one would be... 'Air Force One : And Only'

[yebo]

P5B = US$109M. too little to be of any deterence. that can only buy 3 F16 jets and without the support to keep it flying. ang pwede lang mabili ng budget na yan will be either more md520 light attack helicopters na sana naman outfitted with 19-tube launchers and a minigun, or at least 6x.50 caliber machineguns. forget about buying the .50 cal machine gun pods, just nigger-rig 6 or maybe even 8 old browning .50s and let er rip!

but if they want fixed wing (easier to maintain than helicopters) my vote still goes to the super tucano of brazil's embraer>>http://www.embraer.com/english/conte...per_tucano.asp
i think they only cost US$5.5M each, so paf can buy at least 18 of those turbo-prop trainer/ground attack with light fighter capabilities (can carry 2 aim9 sidewinders).

if they want a jet powered aircraft, south korea is already producing their supersonic (mach 1.4) T50 advance jet trainer/attack fighter aircraft. they designed it to be the replacement for the F5 >>> http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/t-50/ magkano kaya bentahan ng south korea nito? o pwede na din friendship price, $5 each gaya nung benta nila na F5 sa atin nuon!

[oliver1013]

Yep I agree na di na dapat sa jets gastusin ang pera, ok sa modern helicopters nalang kasi ang kalaban nasa bundok. Also dahil islands tayo dapat sa mga maliliit at modern sea going vessels. Or for modern weapons of infantry and training.

As for deterence, just in case a greedy neighbor wants to invade us I dont think a few planes piloted by inexperienced pilots will scare a determined invader .

[oldblue]

maybe we should buy Migs instead, baka cheaper hehehe

[nicolodeon]

Hmm...the T-50 somehow reminds me of the Northrop F-20 Tigershark.

[dazedchiq]

my dad bought one of those MS simulator programs before because one of his fellow pilots said that it was interesting and i think he actually enjoyed playing with it, pero sabi niya iba pa rin daw kapag sa simulator ka talaga natuto, but it can be a helpful tool for a learning pilot.

a more appropriate one would be... 'Air Force One : And Only'

hahaha!!!

[oldblue]

what we need is at least 3 A-10 Tank Killer parked near Malacanang

para pag nanguha ulit si Gringo and Trillianes ng APC and Tanks and then take hostage another bustling city and also ask for reinforcement tanks from provincial bases

di na kelangan ng barikada, Thuderbolt lang katapat nila lahat hehehe

[yebo]

what we need is at least 3 A-10 Tank Killer parked near Malacanang

preferably with the business end pointed at the office of the president!
the best way to prevent a coup is not to give any adventurist the reason to mount one, and that is to make sure the politician in malacanang is the rightful president!

[Jun aka Pekto]

Although the actual flight requires an actual plane, there a many essentials that can be done on a pc. Certainly that applies to a lot of the brainwork.....

http://www.bruceair.com/microsoft_flight_simulator.htm

[chua_riwap]

Di lang PAF ang obsolete ang gamit. Pati rin Navy natin, pre-WWII pa ata yung mga barko.

[raine]

Matagal na nilang sinasabing kailangan mag upgrade ng equipment ang ating armed forces, kaya ng binenta ang fort bonifacio, pero ano ang nagyari nawawala ang perang pinagbilhan or para mas accurate binulsa ng mga nakapwesto, matagal na nilang gustong gawin yan pero masmabilis ang bulsa ng mga general.

[StraightSix]

they could name it 'Air Force One' :2thumbsup:

a more appropriate one would be... 'Air Force One : And Only'

Ilocanos are fully aware that we already have an Air Force a-One

[FedEx]

ang paf natin eh parang nagiging utot na lang na maingay pero wala naman amuy, dapat ang airforce natin eh di maingay, pagutot nakakapatay

[oldblue]

noon ROTC days namin I remember the days na na-invite sila para mag-speech sa'min. grabe Air Force talaga! lakas ng hangin sobra hehehehe

[van_wilder]

P5b? lets just buy tons of ak47s...

[pup2]

Ahhh... good point there... that is what I am also thinking. Given our current financial standing, purchasing hi-tech fighter jets should not even be the priority of the PAF. I am not saying that I don't like to see an F/A-18 Hornet patrolling our skies with A-10s & A-64s supporting our ground troops... but let's be realistic.

Let's start with a simulated war scenario with China... let's assume that we have a few Hornets sitting at Villamor, Sangley or Basa Airbase. China wouldn't start a war using fighter jets, they'll bomb us first with their ballistic missiles - targeting the above mentioned airbases & radar stations. Since we don't have a missile defense, it'll render our fighter aircrafts as sitting targets.

As long as we keep our mutual defense pacts intact, we can survive an attack by a hostile nation and also act as a deterrent against any aggressor. And as you can recall, wars are won on the ground not from the sky.

Though one medium-term need for a fighter jet is to counter a 9/11 type of terrorist threat. Can you imagine a 747 crashing to the Makati CBD?

Nakaisip ako 2 more -- To bomb ASG bandit groups and it MIGHT be cheaper to patrol our seas from the sky rather than keeping dozens of boats at sea for weeks on end.

In all 3 cases though, dual prop - type planes with ground support6 capability should be more than enough.