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    nanggigigil ako with the price of that laptop. hehehehe...

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    Hi Peeps,

    PBWY!

    For the video cards, should it be a higher model number the better? or even just low models will do?

    Kasi parang feel ko may may performance pag mas mataas na number e.

    Yung game nga na Civilization IV, ang taas na ng video card ko sa desktop, nagkakaproblema pa din. Memory ko naman is 700+MB na. Nagkakaerror message na "Virtual Memory Low".

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poringdrops View Post
    Hi Peeps,

    PBWY!

    For the video cards, should it be a higher model number the better? or even just low models will do?

    Kasi parang feel ko may may performance pag mas mataas na number e.

    Yung game nga na Civilization IV, ang taas na ng video card ko sa desktop, nagkakaproblema pa din. Memory ko naman is 700+MB na. Nagkakaerror message na "Virtual Memory Low".

    Any thoughts?
    Virtual memory refers to hard drive space needed by Windows. How much free space do you have left and how much space is allocated to the page file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poringdrops View Post
    Yung game nga na Civilization IV, ang taas na ng video card ko sa desktop, nagkakaproblema pa din. Memory ko naman is 700+MB na. Nagkakaerror message na "Virtual Memory Low".

    Any thoughts?
    it is possible na your system, even with a lot of RAM both sa system and video card, could be loading a lot of programs during startup and that could contribute to the low virtual memory error message.

    could you doublecheck the virtual memory settings and the startup list? those would be the 2 things i'd go to look at first.

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    Hi Peeps,

    Here are some of the specs of the desktop:

    Hard Disk : 100 GB
    Memory: 765MB
    Video Card: nViDia 7200 8x AGP with either 128MB or 256MB video memory

    Initial loading? It got Zone Lab, Win Fax, Nokia Phone Sync, 6.1 Sound Blaster, and standard others.

    When I play the Civ IV, all programs are closed. As I start the game it is fast. Then as the game progress and all countries shows up, the game become slower and slower and slower then it will hang then it will log out the game and display an error message Virtual Memory Low at the lower right.

    Huhuhu...

    Technical please.

    Thanks!

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    hmmm. i think this deserves a new thread na, agree? :D

    we'll see what we can tinker later on. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by poringdrops View Post
    Hi Peeps,

    Here are some of the specs of the desktop:

    Hard Disk : 100 GB
    Memory: 765MB
    Video Card: nViDia 7200 8x AGP with either 128MB or 256MB video memory
    Are you using a lenovo or a dell desktop? The 7200 wasn't released for retail distribution. You may have the 7200go version of the vidcard. It's meant for laptops not for desktops. It uses shared memory and doesn't have memomy onboard - If you have 765mb of system ram, the vidcard automatically eats away either 128 or 265mb for video memory. You most probably have 1gb of ram on your system and the vicard already has access to 256mb of it. That's why your system posts 765mb of ram.

    If you can, get a better agp vidcard with dedicated onboard memory. That will help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metatron View Post
    Are you using a lenovo or a dell desktop? The 7200 wasn't released for retail distribution. You may have the 7200go version of the vidcard. It's meant for laptops not for desktops. It uses shared memory and doesn't have memomy onboard - If you have 765mb of system ram, the vidcard automatically eats away either 128 or 265mb for video memory. You most probably have 1gb of ram on your system and the vicard already has access to 256mb of it. That's why your system posts 765mb of ram.

    If you can, get a better agp vidcard with dedicated onboard memory. That will help a lot.

    hongano. i was assuming na poringdrops built his desktop system kasi, ergo, discrete video card that uses its own memory.

    sana manalo ako ng lotto...talagang papatusin ko yang XPS 2010 na yan. never mind if it's heavy. :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugundam93 View Post
    hongano. i was assuming na poringdrops built his desktop system kasi, ergo, discrete video card that uses its own memory.

    sana manalo ako ng lotto...talagang papatusin ko yang XPS 2010 na yan. never mind if it's heavy. :lol:
    Pag nanalo ka sa lotto bilhan mo din ako ng isa ha. :tounge2:

    sensya na mga mods OT na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poringdrops View Post
    Hi Peeps,

    PBWY!

    For the video cards, should it be a higher model number the better? or even just low models will do?

    Kasi parang feel ko may may performance pag mas mataas na number e.

    Yung game nga na Civilization IV, ang taas na ng video card ko sa desktop, nagkakaproblema pa din. Memory ko naman is 700+MB na. Nagkakaerror message na "Virtual Memory Low".

    Any thoughts?
    Vidcards are really tricky. Higher model numbers usually indicate a more up to date architecture, better data handling and lower power consumption. But it doesn't necessarily indicate better performance. Take into consideration ati's x700pro vs x1300pro and nvidia's vanilla (not the gt's) 6600 vs 7300 series. The latter cards have higher model numbers but they are easily outperformed by the former.

    Mababa lang system requirements ng civ4. When was the last time you reformatted your harddrive and did a clean install of your OS? Windows' registry is notorious for getting bloated with unnecessary entries which slow the system down. How's you anti-malware applications? Are they up to date? Baka sobrang dami nang resident spyware at trojans sa system mo that's eating away at your virtual mem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metatron View Post
    Vidcards are really tricky. Higher model numbers usually indicate a more up to date architecture, better data handling and lower power consumption. But it doesn't necessarily indicate better performance. Take into consideration ati's x700pro vs x1300pro and nvidia's vanilla (not the gt's) 6600 vs 7300 series. The latter cards have higher model numbers but they are easily outperformed by the former.

    Mababa lang system requirements ng civ4. When was the last time you reformatted your harddrive and did a clean install of your OS? Windows' registry is notorious for getting bloated with unnecessary entries which slow the system down. How's you anti-malware applications? Are they up to date? Baka sobrang dami nang resident spyware at trojans sa system mo that's eating away at your virtual mem.
    I doubt he needs to do a reformat or a clean install when he gets a Virtual Memory error. He does need to check his apps and "memory-resident applets"/services running as n93 has suggested. Just because the Registry may be bloated doesn't mean his pc will slow down. So long as the services connected with that Registry entry isn't running, then there's no problem. It's just a Registry with excess entries. It's the 1-2 combo of loaded apps and the free hard drive space/allocated page file size he needs to check for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poringdrops View Post
    Hi Peeps,

    Yung game nga na Civilization IV, ang taas na ng video card ko sa desktop, nagkakaproblema pa din. Memory ko naman is 700+MB na. Nagkakaerror message na "Virtual Memory Low".

    Any thoughts?
    sir try checking your hard disk. baka malapit nang mawalan ng disk space. try mong magdelete ng unwanted files.

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    Between a Core Duo laptop with fast discrete graphics and a Core2 Duo with Intel graphics, I'd pick the former. I think CPU speed has gotten so far ahead of software, what matters more is the amount of ram and the graphics subsystem.

    I'm tempted myself to order that Acer...... kaya lang baka magalit si Asawa....

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