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    #51
    Most definitely sure Alonso will be leaving Mclaren next year, the 2008 car will be so hobbled (after the FIA is finished removing all "suspect" design modifications) it will be an even worst car than what Honda has now.

    As to who will replace him? I dont think Jenson Button will since his contract is still on with Honda and I dont think he wants a repeat of the Williams-Honda debacle that happened a while back.

    Alonso in turn could go back to Renault or go to BMW Sauber although BMW recently indicated its driver line up is already set for 2008.

    In all actuality Alonso is so disgusted with his stay with Mclaren this year that he just wants out of his contract. He may not even be thinking what team will take him for 2008.

    Its a shame really for Mclaren. This has got to be their darkest period ever in their illustrious history. Ron Dennis not appealing the verdict comes across to people as an almost certain admission of their guilt.

    People may say (especially Britons ) that cheating in F1 and all sports happen all the time but doing it is one thing but doing it and getting caught, well thats another.

    Bilib lang ako dito kay Alonso... He caused Maester Schumacher to retire at the peak of his career (OK well he was one of the reasons) and now he may well be the guy identified as the one who brought down Ron Dennis as well. He is definitely a "mover and a shaker". Whatever he does from here on out nobody is going to deny he is the one person who has made the most impact on the sport.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101 View Post

    People may say (especially Britons ) that cheating in F1 and all sports happen all the time but doing it is one thing but doing it and getting caught, well thats another.

    Agree here, bro.

    Poor RD. With such an stoic face,- you'll never know what's going on in his mind....

    And, FA going to Toyota may be a reality....

    3909:trampoline:

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101 View Post
    Its a shame really for Mclaren. This has got to be their darkest period ever in their illustrious history. Ron Dennis not appealing the verdict comes across to people as an almost certain admission of their guilt.
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    It's the Brit's world-famous stoop and tight upper lip..... Yeh! yeh! yeh!

    3909:trampoline:

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    #54

    And, McLaren is definitely (officially) guilty of incorporating the Ferrari IP into the design of their F1 Car.... See the section I put on bold in the news item....

    Tsk... tsk.... tsk.....

    4808:santa:

    from: www.itv.com

    Ferrari to press ahead with legal action
    Friday, 14, December, 2007, 11:06

    Ferrari has accepted the FIA’s proposal to draw a line under the McLaren spying affair "from a sporting point of view", but made it clear that it intends to press ahead with its ongoing legal action in England and Italy.

    McLaren published a humiliating apology to the governing body, Ferrari and the wider F1 community on Thursday, in which it acknowledged that leaked Ferrari technical secrets had seeped further into the team than its own investigations had indicated.

    Along with the apology, which was prompted by a detailed report by the FIA’s technical department, McLaren offered to cease development work on three aspects of its 2008 car that the report identified as bearing similarities to Ferrari designs.

    FIA president Max Mosley reacted to McLaren’s initiative by asking the World Motor Sport Council to treat the matter as closed and cancel its plans for a 14 February meeting to consider the eligibility of McLaren’s 2008 car.

    Ferrari said in a statement that it had no objection to Mosley's recommendation, but would continue to pursue its criminal and civil cases against its former head of performance development Nigel Stepney and ex-McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan.

    “Ferrari notes the apology offered today by the McLaren Group, following the investigations carried out by the FIA technical department, as presented to the WSMC on 7th December last,” the statement said.

    “The written and verbal statements issued by senior McLaren personnel both at the World Council meetings of the 26th July and 13th September and through the media have thus been publicly proved wrong.

    “Therefore it is admitted that confidential information which was the property of Ferrari was disseminated within the structure of the English team and this also confirms the seriousness of the behaviour of those involved over the past few months.

    “In the light of McLaren’s apology and the guarantees it has presented, Ferrari respects the proposal of the FIA president to cancel the extraordinary general meeting of the WSMC scheduled for 14th February coming, thus bringing this incident to a close from a sporting point of view.

    “However, it is confirmed that criminal actions underway in Italy and civil ones in England are still continuing.”
    Last edited by CVT; December 17th, 2007 at 12:05 PM.

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