Is WWIII inevitable?

[safeorigin]

because it's in their best interest to prolong the war. Keynesian economics is the bread and butter of the US government.

not only that, wagging the dog is necessary to smokescreen major domestic issues: massive illegal immigration, increasingly insidious NSA surveillance, growing police state and other grounds for impeachment.

I normally get flak when I make these statements. And this was just last year.

They hold water more than ever.

[Jun aka Pekto]

here's the best snippets of propaganda from both sides for comparison:

while russia is bombing Sunni extremists, US is bombing... for >30 minutes

If you looked closely at CNN's reporting over the past few years, anything about their reporting on overseas trouble spots reporting always involved asking why the US isn't involved. At least, it's what I can gather with the CNN US edition. I'm watching CNN right now and they're in full damage control mode, something I would never have seen a decade ago.

The Russians just got started. Give it time. Once the humdrum sets it, they'll start hitting civilians too.

[safeorigin]

Well, they have a recent history of withdrawing from war after the lessons from Afghanistan war. They're not too keen on protracted wars because they don't have massive military budget and have a massive territory to protect.

[safeorigin]

hmmm... apparently there's talks between Iraq and Russia which might prove trickier

[safeorigin]

double post. ignore

[safeorigin]

dropping "leaflet bombs" on civilians and rebels

[kisshmet]

hmmm... apparently there's talks between Iraq and Russia which might prove trickier

russia seems to be seriously denting US influence in ISIS affected areas of the middle east

[safeorigin]

Iraq government is run by Shiite Muslims. ISIS is Sunni/Wahhabi extremist. Chechen terrorists also happen to be Sunni/Wahhabi extremist ;)

[kisshmet]

russias recent display of military prowess will deter WWWIII

[safeorigin]

depends on how you view war. WWIII for me is an economic war - a currency war to be more precise. It's where most of the destruction is happening right now.

another ongoing battlefield is this: Norse Attack Map

[kisshmet]

a direct military engagement between 2 powers

it has to begin in some front, economic

for now russias display of military might serves as warning to US, not to mess with russia

[minicarph]

Per my observstion, apocalypse starts when all people starts doing math and computation. For example, monitoring number of condiments given to customer like in Fsmily Mart. Riding the bandwagon of no plastic sa groceries like Robinsons zsupermarket pero would only supply you eith small paper bags for you to buy the plastics.

So many things right nowm being done that way. Lahat na ng kilos bilang. There will come a point when people will just learn our body and determine who will succeed in life based on high scores in DNA superiority and just genocide all mediocre results people.


Yan lang naman lagi ang concept ng wars, when a group of people starts purging snother group coz they are not contributing like Hitler's Nazi, Napoleons cleansing of Europe. The Vikings purge of Europe etc. etc. now, in the modern world there seems to be systematic purge of people like syria,

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So are we immediately brand these groups as evil because who gave them the right to genoicde people. Hindi din coz wverything that happened in Hitler's Germany and japan's expansion in our region, yan ang nag-pave ng way sa mga technologies na ini-enjoy natin ngsaun, like jet engines, etc etc.

In war, we become more alert more focused and yun ang outcome.


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In my study of history, i tried to get into the mind of Hitler. You know what I found out, Hitler is like the rest of us, He saw so many things wrong in society and acted on it. for instsnce, his hatred of the Jews and his love for the Germanic Aryan people are not really crazy or psychopatic .

Back in those days, the jews were shrewd businessmen. They were the financiers of business and therefore interest. They are also master of pakikisama / padrino economic politics. As a result, they owned the wealth of Europe, They preyed on the hard-working and skilled class. Pag nagkarun ng ups and downs ang business cycle like stock market crashes, the jews and their allies seemed unaffected, ang lagi naghhirap the working class and the skilled ones.


Who are these skilled hard-working ones? The italians, the Germans, the Japanese, we are in tsikot forum and which races do you believe produced high quality cars and pther craftmanshp until now di ba the 3 races I mentioned above,

Why did Japan join hitler and formed the axis power, whereas in wwi, the Japanese were pro-allied or American. Same banana, the Japs were used to produce the technology of the allied, used their men and resources for world war i, only to be left with nothing after the Versailles treaty. i went to that very room in Versailles where they victors of World War i partook. Most of europe snd africa making Germany more poor and Japanese unacknowledged,

So is hitler to be blamed, probably, but what he did was to put a stop to what's happening bsck then, the culture of money just like what is or resurging now in wall streets, home schemes and these car low - downs, designed to make the working class poorer.

Hitler was a mastermind. He knew that if he will go against the rich and elite and monarchs of Europe, these people will use their money and power to kill him. So he patiently waited, silently brainwashing Nazi Germany they their cause is sbove money, their cause is the future, the superior race.

Hitler was wven cautious to sack Swirzerland coz he knew that the Jews and elite of europe kept their money there, Even if he allied with secular Mussollini, I beleived he also is secretly allied iwth Vatican Rome,


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You see what happened to Europe was a purge of people who just became too shallow and loved money more than theri true purpose in life. Hitler was just an instrument of nature or maybe By God to remind us that pur life is not all about Money, Math, Computing costs versus profit et al.

The same pattern also happened in our region, in our case, the Jews where the Chinese. You know naman how the Chinese hoards money. If ang money hawak lang isang race, tapos nasa bangko lang hindi gumagalaw, nature will take over.

The Japs in Malaysia and Singapore, filtered the Chinese and the Malays. They executed more Chinese there, even in the Phils. Ganun sila,


So what is world war w2, it simply an evener for the working class versus those who just live for profit. Something that is slowly resurging now, who knows maybe baka magka-world war 3


But the thing is America which is perceived as the one benefiting form all of the world's resources, eh hindi naman mayaman, Case in point, the middlle states dami naghihirap dun. Dapat kasi life is a mix succes, sacrifice and suffering, If lahat pasarap tpos puro pela pela compute then yun na yun, an anti-christ will be born to correct that. Good intentions turned evil psychopath

[minicarph]

Sometimes, if your really want to analyze history. Look at the statistics, there were 100M++ dead in World war 2, 30M Chinese (money), 20M Jews (money) (Incl. European Jews like French, British austro, etc.

An interesting observstion is the 30M Russian dead, were they money lovers too. No but they denounced God as early as World war i., i.el communism,

Then look at German People dead, only 9M. It's not fair diba. How come they destroyed so much and stsrted the apocalyptic war, tapos ang konti lang ang patay nila. Dun ka magtataka talaga. It's almost as if they are 300 of the Sparta, Who cleansed the world.

Althoughm the japs had more death around 20M eh kasi naman kamikaze naman talaga sila

[safeorigin]

UGH my head.

[dreamur]

Bro OB, have you taken your meds today?:D

[safeorigin]

^parang ako ata ang kelangang ng medication. sumakit ulo ko

However, I'd say he's 30-40% on point. (Yes, I'm being generous.)

anyways, looks like NATO has a new scapegoat to go to war: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...ad-186-injured

Just so happens NATO forces are in Turkey.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Yan lang naman lagi ang concept ng wars, when a group of people starts purging snother group coz they are not contributing like Hitler's Nazi, Napoleons cleansing of Europe. The Vikings purge of Europe etc. etc. now, in the modern world there seems to be systematic purge of people like syria

C'mon. The Vikings were after plunder (gold, jewels, etc). It's true they killed like any raider would. But, they only stayed at a place long enough to plunder the place. Heck. They even spared many cities who paid a tribute (aka ransom) in gold. Napoleon cleansing Europe? Napoleon was a megalomaniac. But, I doubt he can be placed with the likes of Hitler who viewed extermination of the Jews as paramount. Part of Napoleon's empire building is having conquered people pay homage to the conqueror (Napoleon). He couldn't do that if he put the conquered people to death. In fact, Napoleon incorporated many conquered people into his own armies.

In my study of history, i tried to get into the mind of Hitler. You know what I found out, Hitler is like the rest of us, He saw so many things wrong in society and acted on it. for instsnce, his hatred of the Jews and his love for the Germanic Aryan people are not really crazy or psychopatic

Hitler isn't like the rest of us. I doubt any one of us would put to death anyone who isn't white. He only accommodated the Japanese because they carried a big shtick. If Hitler had won WW2, he would eventually find a way to make war with and exterminate the Japanese. Hitler would have loved the Japanese Alps because it looked like the German highlands. He'd think the locals were not fit to live in such a beautiful alpine setting.

Why did Japan join hitler and formed the axis power, whereas in wwi, the Japanese were pro-allied or American. Same banana, the Japs were used to produce the technology of the allied, used their men and resources for world war i, only to be left with nothing after the Versailles treaty. i went to that very room in Versailles where they victors of World War i partook.

Japan was not pro-American as much as pro-British. Much of the Japanese WW1 navy were built by the British, including their most powerful battlecruisers. Japan was mainly concerned with the Pacific and were opportunistic in their grab of German colonies in the Pacific. There was already growing animosity between Japan and the US over China. Japan and the US only became allies by circumstances and not by choice.

Japan chose to side with Germany in WW2 because they know the US and England would side with one another and the US was already imposing trade embargoes/sanctions on Japan. These were the two most influential countries at southeast Asia and they were in Japan's way. Germany was the obvious choice to have as an ally. Germany can also be counted on to keep the Russians tied up west. The Japanese didn't want to face the Russians who already humiliated them in earlier border disputes.

Hitler was a mastermind. He knew that if he will go against the rich and elite and monarchs of Europe, these people will use their money and power to kill him. So he patiently waited, silently brainwashing Nazi Germany they their cause is sbove money, their cause is the future, the superior race.

Hitler only cared about the rich in Germany because they owned the industries that made the armaments he required. He needed their expertise. He didn't give a crap about the rich of other countries. To him, they're just another people to conquer. All the money in the world is useless when you're face to face with the business end of a gun.

Hitler was wven cautious to sack Swirzerland coz he knew that the Jews and elite of europe kept their money there

Hitler chose to spare Switzerland because every Swiss was armed. The mountain roads were useless to tanks and the Swiss had every bridge and entry point booby trapped. It would have been very costly for Hitler to invade Switzerland. The Swiss being neutral also had its advantages. Hitler could have used Switzerland as a crossing point to funnel spies in and out of other countries. The Nazis could also use Switzerland to store their own stolen riches. So, that part is correct.

[Jun aka Pekto]

^parang ako ata ang kelangang ng medication. sumakit ulo ko

However, I'd say he's 30-40% on point. (Yes, I'm being generous.)

anyways, looks like NATO has a new scapegoat to go to war: Caught On Video: Bomb Attacks At Turkey Peace Rally Leave 86 Dead, 186 Injured | Zero Hedge

Just so happens NATO forces are in Turkey.

NATO forces have been in Turkey since the Cold War. In the years after, it's not like there was an absence of NATO forces because they never left. They've always been there.

Turkey has a Kurd problem. They'll blame the Kurds before anyone else.

I was deployed to Operation Northern Watch a few times in the years leading up to my retirement. The Turks are a wonderful people to be with. The place was quite peaceful in my day. It was common to see Americans and Euros (Germans, especially) vacationing there.

I have quite a few photos I took as souvenirs of Operation Northern Watch, including this one:


And a Turk who randomly struck a conversation with me. I think we talked about retirement and the best way to go about it. He was happy to impart his wisdom.

[Juan Martinez]

C'mon. The Vikings were after plunder (gold, jewels, etc). It's true they killed like any raider would. But, they only stayed at a place long enough to plunder the place. Heck. They even spared many cities who paid a tribute (aka ransom) in gold. Napoleon cleansing Europe? Napoleon was a megalomaniac. But, I doubt he can be placed with the likes of Hitler who viewed extermination of the Jews as paramount. Part of Napoleon's empire building is having conquered people pay homage to the conqueror (Napoleon). He couldn't do that if he put the conquered people to death. In fact, Napoleon incorporated many conquered people into his own armies.



Hitler isn't like the rest of us. I doubt any one of us would put to death anyone who isn't white. He only accommodated the Japanese because they carried a big shtick. If Hitler had won WW2, he would eventually find a way to make war with and exterminate the Japanese. Hitler would have loved the Japanese Alps because it looked like the German highlands. He'd think the locals were not fit to live in such a beautiful alpine setting.



Japan was not pro-American as much as pro-British. Much of the Japanese WW1 navy were built by the British, including their most powerful battlecruisers. Japan was mainly concerned with the Pacific and were opportunistic in their grab of German colonies in the Pacific. There was already growing animosity between Japan and the US over China. Japan and the US only became allies by circumstances and not by choice.

Japan chose to side with Germany in WW2 because they know the US and England would side with one another and the US was already imposing trade embargoes/sanctions on Japan. These were the two most influential countries at southeast Asia and they were in Japan's way. Germany was the obvious choice to have as an ally. Germany can also be counted on to keep the Russians tied up west. The Japanese didn't want to face the Russians who already humiliated them in earlier border disputes.




Hitler only cared about the rich in Germany because they owned the industries that made the armaments he required. He needed their expertise. He didn't give a crap about the rich of other countries. To him, they're just another people to conquer. All the money in the world is useless when you're face to face with the business end of a gun.



Hitler chose to spare Switzerland because every Swiss was armed. The mountain roads were useless to tanks and the Swiss had every bridge and entry point booby trapped. It would have been very costly for Hitler to invade Switzerland. The Swiss being neutral also had its advantages. Hitler could have used Switzerland as a crossing point to funnel spies in and out of other countries. The Nazis could also use Switzerland to store their own stolen riches. So, that part is correct.

+1 you know your war history bro, and i couldn't agree more. well, most men who served and fought it always do. others who had merely relived it vicariously would never know its essence, its dynamics.

[safeorigin]

NATO forces have been in Turkey since the Cold War. In the years after, it's not like there was an absence of NATO forces because they never left. They've always been there.

Turkey has a Kurd problem. They'll blame the Kurds before anyone else.

I was deployed to Operation Northern Watch a few times in the years leading up to my retirement. The Turks are a wonderful people to be with. The place was quite peaceful in my day. It was common to see Americans and Euros (Germans, especially) vacationing there.

I have quite a few photos I took as souvenirs of Operation Northern Watch, including this one:


And a Turk who randomly struck a conversation with me. I think we talked about retirement and the best way to go about it. He was happy to impart his wisdom.

what I mean is: Nato ready to 'defend' Turkey as Russia strikes Syria | World news | The Guardian

and not the regular troops that are stationed