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    lesson to the indigenous:

    if you cannot defend your land with overwhelming force then it doesn't belong to you

    the land belongs to he who is capable of inflicting the most violence

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    Generations of jews migrated to different parts of Europe and Turkey for religious and over taxation reason... The first Palestine Census by the British in 1922, they only made up 11 percent of the population.

    It was the Europeans again who helped mass emigrate their unwanted jewish population to the land promised by the British courtesy of the Balfour accord.

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    Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People? | PragerU
    Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People?
    Noa TishbyNoa Tishby
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    The Land of Israel has changed hands many times over the centuries. But it has always been the homeland of one particular people. Noa Tishby, author of Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth, explains.



    Why Isn'''t There a Palestinian State? | PragerU

    Why Isn't There a Palestinian State?
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    Why don't the Palestinians have their own country? Is it the fault of Israel? Of the Palestinians? Of both parties? David Brog, Executive Director of the Maccabee Task Force, shares the surprising answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People? | PragerU
    Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People?
    Noa TishbyNoa Tishby
    5-Minute Videos
    Jul 10, 2023
    The Land of Israel has changed hands many times over the centuries. But it has always been the homeland of one particular people. Noa Tishby, author of Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth, explains.



    Why Isn'''t There a Palestinian State? | PragerU

    Why Isn't There a Palestinian State?
    David BrogDavid Brog
    5-Minute Videos
    Mar 27, 2017
    Why don't the Palestinians have their own country? Is it the fault of Israel? Of the Palestinians? Of both parties? David Brog, Executive Director of the Maccabee Task Force, shares the surprising answers.

    The Middle East Problem | PragerU
    The Middle East Problem
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    The Middle East conflict is framed as one of the most complex problems in the world. But, in reality, it's very simple. Israelis want to live in peace and are willing to accept a neighboring Palestinian state. And most Palestinians do not want Israel to exist. As Dennis Prager explains, this is really all you need to know. In 5 minutes, understand how Israel was founded, and how, since that auspicious day in 1948, its neighbors have tried to destroy it, again and again.

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    What were the Oslo Accords between Israel and the Palestinians? | Israel-Palestine conflict News | Al Jazeera

    What were the Oslo Accords?
    The first Oslo Accord, known as Oslo I, was signed on September 13, 1993. The agreement between the Israeli and Palestinian leadership saw each side recognise the other for the first time. Both sides also pledged to end their decades-long conflict.

    A second accord, known as Oslo II, was signed in September 1995 and went into more detail on the structure of the bodies that the peace process was supposed to form.

    The Oslo Accords were supposed to bring about Palestinian self-determination, in the form of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. This would mean that Israel, which was formed on the land of historic Palestine in 1948 in an event Palestinians know as the Nakba, would accept Palestinian claims to national sovereignty. The claims, however, would only be limited to a fraction of historic Palestine, with the rest left to Israel’s sovereignty.

    Who was opposed to the deal?

    Right-wing Israelis had no desire to give the Palestinians any concessions, and did not want any agreements with the PLO, which they considered a “terrorist organisation”. Israeli settlers also feared it would lead to their eviction from the illegal settlements in the occupied territories.

    Elements of the far-right were so opposed to the Oslo Accords that Rabin himself was assassinated in 1995 for signing them. Among the people who had threatened Rabin before his death was Itamar Ben-Gvir, now Israel’s National Security Minister.

    Meanwhile, Palestinian groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, warned that a two-state solution would forgo the right of Palestinian refugees to return to the historic lands seized from them in 1948 when Israel was created.

    The late prominent Palestinian literary critic and activist Edward Said was among its most vocal critics, calling it “an instrument of Palestinian surrender, a Palestinian Versailles”.


    How did the accords break down?
    The Oslo Accords witnessed a slow decline, with Israel continuing its occupation of Palestinian land and refusing to withdraw militarily from the majority of the West Bank while continuing to conduct raids into land considered under the full administration of the PA.

    Following Rabin’s death, a number of Israeli leaders who opposed the accords came to power, among them current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as well as Ariel Sharon.

    A second intifada from 2000 to 2005 in turn led to heavy casualties, particularly on the Palestinian side, and made both sides less willing to agree to move the deal along.

    Any attempt at restarting talks failed in the decade after, and the accords’ interim clauses have become the status quo.
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    Buti nga...




    Stuart Seldowitz facing hate crime, stalking charges after harassing New York City halal cart worker, police say - CBS New York

    NEW YORK -- A man accused of harassing a New York City halal cart worker was arrested Wednesday, police say.

    Stuart Seldowitz, 64, is facing multiple charges, including aggravated harassment, hate crime and stalking.
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    New Yorkers showing their love for the Egyptian Halal Vendors after being harrassed by a Pro-Zionist former lobbyist...




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    Trending nut job...Former US senior official in charge of Israeli/Palestinian affairs... no wonder Palestinians are so screwed with US policy makers like him.

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    Israeli propaganda is being mocked online after a series of controversial videos and statements were released by the military. Social media users, particularly those from Generation Z, are using the platforms to highlight the inconsistencies in Israel’s narrative and highlight the plight of the Palestinians, undermining Israel’s public diplomacy strategy known as Hasbara.

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    Nice explanation putting the both players in a bad light...


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    Famous Fox News journalist Trey Yingst becomes one of the first Western journalists to enter the Hamas tunnels under the Al-Shifa hospital.

    Hamas has their main headquarters in Gaza in, and below, the hospital.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Trd8YguYHQ

    Amir Tsarfati
    The IDF arrested the director of Shifa Hospital and took him in for questioning following the footage of both the arrival of abductees to the hospital and the discovery of a terror tunnel system under the hospital despite of the manager’s denial that Hamas operated above or under the ground at the hospital.
    This man as most Palestinians do, lied to the world!

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