Is WWIII inevitable?

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lesson to the indigenous:

if you cannot defend your land with overwhelming force then it doesn't belong to you

the land belongs to he who is capable of inflicting the most violence

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Generations of jews migrated to different parts of Europe and Turkey for religious and over taxation reason... The first Palestine Census by the British in 1922, they only made up 11 percent of the population.

It was the Europeans again who helped mass emigrate their unwanted jewish population to the land promised by the British courtesy of the Balfour accord.

Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People? | PragerU
Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People?
Noa TishbyNoa Tishby
5-Minute Videos
Jul 10, 2023
The Land of Israel has changed hands many times over the centuries. But it has always been the homeland of one particular people. Noa Tishby, author of Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth, explains.



Why Isn'''t There a Palestinian State? | PragerU

Why Isn't There a Palestinian State?
David BrogDavid Brog
5-Minute Videos
Mar 27, 2017
Why don't the Palestinians have their own country? Is it the fault of Israel? Of the Palestinians? Of both parties? David Brog, Executive Director of the Maccabee Task Force, shares the surprising answers.

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Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People? | PragerU
Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People?
Noa TishbyNoa Tishby
5-Minute Videos
Jul 10, 2023
The Land of Israel has changed hands many times over the centuries. But it has always been the homeland of one particular people. Noa Tishby, author of Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth, explains.



Why Isn'''t There a Palestinian State? | PragerU

Why Isn't There a Palestinian State?
David BrogDavid Brog
5-Minute Videos
Mar 27, 2017
Why don't the Palestinians have their own country? Is it the fault of Israel? Of the Palestinians? Of both parties? David Brog, Executive Director of the Maccabee Task Force, shares the surprising answers.

The Middle East Problem | PragerU
The Middle East Problem
Dennis PragerDennis Prager
5-Minute Videos
Apr 28, 2014

The Middle East conflict is framed as one of the most complex problems in the world. But, in reality, it's very simple. Israelis want to live in peace and are willing to accept a neighboring Palestinian state. And most Palestinians do not want Israel to exist. As Dennis Prager explains, this is really all you need to know. In 5 minutes, understand how Israel was founded, and how, since that auspicious day in 1948, its neighbors have tried to destroy it, again and again.

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What were the Oslo Accords between Israel and the Palestinians? | Israel-Palestine conflict News | Al Jazeera

What were the Oslo Accords?
The first Oslo Accord, known as Oslo I, was signed on September 13, 1993. The agreement between the Israeli and Palestinian leadership saw each side recognise the other for the first time. Both sides also pledged to end their decades-long conflict.

A second accord, known as Oslo II, was signed in September 1995 and went into more detail on the structure of the bodies that the peace process was supposed to form.

The Oslo Accords were supposed to bring about Palestinian self-determination, in the form of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. This would mean that Israel, which was formed on the land of historic Palestine in 1948 in an event Palestinians know as the Nakba, would accept Palestinian claims to national sovereignty. The claims, however, would only be limited to a fraction of historic Palestine, with the rest left to Israel’s sovereignty.

Who was opposed to the deal?

Right-wing Israelis had no desire to give the Palestinians any concessions, and did not want any agreements with the PLO, which they considered a “terrorist organisation”. Israeli settlers also feared it would lead to their eviction from the illegal settlements in the occupied territories.

Elements of the far-right were so opposed to the Oslo Accords that Rabin himself was assassinated in 1995 for signing them. Among the people who had threatened Rabin before his death was Itamar Ben-Gvir, now Israel’s National Security Minister.

Meanwhile, Palestinian groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, warned that a two-state solution would forgo the right of Palestinian refugees to return to the historic lands seized from them in 1948 when Israel was created.

The late prominent Palestinian literary critic and activist Edward Said was among its most vocal critics, calling it “an instrument of Palestinian surrender, a Palestinian Versailles”.


How did the accords break down?
The Oslo Accords witnessed a slow decline, with Israel continuing its occupation of Palestinian land and refusing to withdraw militarily from the majority of the West Bank while continuing to conduct raids into land considered under the full administration of the PA.

Following Rabin’s death, a number of Israeli leaders who opposed the accords came to power, among them current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as well as Ariel Sharon.

A second intifada from 2000 to 2005 in turn led to heavy casualties, particularly on the Palestinian side, and made both sides less willing to agree to move the deal along.

Any attempt at restarting talks failed in the decade after, and the accords’ interim clauses have become the status quo.

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Buti nga...




Stuart Seldowitz facing hate crime, stalking charges after harassing New York City halal cart worker, police say - CBS New York

NEW YORK -- A man accused of harassing a New York City halal cart worker was arrested Wednesday, police say.

Stuart Seldowitz, 64, is facing multiple charges, including aggravated harassment, hate crime and stalking.

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New Yorkers showing their love for the Egyptian Halal Vendors after being harrassed by a Pro-Zionist former lobbyist...

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Trending nut job...Former US senior official in charge of Israeli/Palestinian affairs... no wonder Palestinians are so screwed with US policy makers like him.

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Israeli propaganda is being mocked online after a series of controversial videos and statements were released by the military. Social media users, particularly those from Generation Z, are using the platforms to highlight the inconsistencies in Israel’s narrative and highlight the plight of the Palestinians, undermining Israel’s public diplomacy strategy known as Hasbara.

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Nice explanation putting the both players in a bad light...

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Famous Fox News journalist Trey Yingst becomes one of the first Western journalists to enter the Hamas tunnels under the Al-Shifa hospital.

Hamas has their main headquarters in Gaza in, and below, the hospital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Trd8YguYHQ

Amir Tsarfati
The IDF arrested the director of Shifa Hospital and took him in for questioning following the footage of both the arrival of abductees to the hospital and the discovery of a terror tunnel system under the hospital despite of the manager’s denial that Hamas operated above or under the ground at the hospital.
This man as most Palestinians do, lied to the world!

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Of course the tunnels exist under Al Shifa

Buking na naman ang IDF by their own ex- PM Ehud Barak...

They know the bunkers exist because they built it themselves...

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National Day of Mourning for another indigenous group called Native Indians... not knowing the so-called new arrivals is the start of their own genocide.

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Thanksgiving

"we are thankful that God has given us superior technology that allowed us to colonize* land all over the world"


*kill indigenous people

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There are no such thing as palestinian children...

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It?s complicated | Philstar.com

It’s complicated
SKETCHES - Ana Marie Pamintuan - The Philippine Star
November 24, 2023 | 12:00am

In armed conflict, public sympathy typically goes to the underdog. And perceptions of which side is the underdog or weaker force can be complicated.

Usually, whoever throws the first blow is seen as the aggressor. This was the case in the first hours after Hamas launched a stunning attack on Israel on Oct. 7, killing civilians attending an open-air concert, and going house-to-house to murder many more and grab hostages. As Israel’s vaunted “Iron Wall” crumbled, missiles breached its dome shield, killing more.

About 1,400 people including four Filipinos and other foreigners were reportedly killed in the Hamas rampage – the worst attack on the Jewish state since its creation. There was no doubt that Israel would launch an even deadlier counter-attack.

Fighting Hamas and other extremist groups, however, is always complicated by their use of civilians as shields. Once images of Palestinian women and children dying began piling up, people started hesitating in describing Hamas militants as terrorists.

And once the casualty count on the Palestinian side surpassed the Israeli death toll – and kept rising – Israel was increasingly seen as an oppressor going for overkill.

Such perceptions pose a dilemma for Israel, whose legitimacy as a state continues to be questioned by several of its neighbors. The Jewish state is located in a hostile neighborhood, with groups committed to its annihilation.

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Israel’s top diplomat in the Philippines, Ambassador Ilan Fluss, laments the lack of condemnation from many countries and groups for Hamas’ Oct. 7 atrocities against civilians. He noted that some of the killings were so vicious the dead still cannot be identified.

Video compiled by Israel from cell phone and surveillance camera footage also showed Hamas raping and then killing Jewish women in the Oct. 7 rampage. Yet even as the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women approaches, Fluss laments the lack of condemnation of the atrocities from women’s groups.

Hamas, which is the elected governing body in Gaza, has adopted in its charter the slogan “from the river to the sea” for Palestinians – referring to the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, which is where Israel is located. Israel sees this as a mission to obliterate the Jewish state; Hamas supporters say it is merely an aspirational slogan for a Palestinian state. Fluss points out that Hamas also has anti-Semitism incorporated into the curriculum in Gaza schools.

“There’s no possibility in (Hamas’) ideology for a political solution with Israel,” Fluss told us when he visited The STAR last Wednesday.

Since the conflict erupted, Fluss says there has been an “alarming” increase in anti-Semitic attacks in many countries, with those in Paris reminiscent of Kristallnacht in the prelude to the Holocaust during World War II. He said it had become dangerous to wear the Jewish kippah or skullcap in many areas.

Kristallnacht – “the Night of Broken Glass” – was a series of Nazi pogroms launched on Nov. 9-10, 1938 against the Jewish population in Germany, annexed Austria and Nazi-occupied parts of Czechoslovakia, with Jewish-owned establishments, synagogues and homes vandalized. Approximately 30,000 Jewish males were arrested simply for being Jewish, and taken to concentration camps.

Fluss wore a kippah during his visit to our office. He has heeded travel advisories against visiting conflict zones in Mindanao, but he has visited many other areas in the country. He told us that he has always felt welcome in the Philippines. He also expressed appreciation for the Filipina caregiver attending to his 93-year-old father-in-law, a Holocaust survivor, in Israel.

“She’s amazing,” Fluss said, describing the caregiver, who has been with them for several years now. “They’re part of my family.”

Filipina caregivers were among the victims of the Hamas rampage on Oct. 7.

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Fluss acknowledges the challenges of fighting an enemy that routinely uses civilians as shields, against international conventions on warfare. Hamas understands the advantage of being seen by the world as a victim.

“We can debate it academically. But a responsible government has to ensure that its citizens are not targeted again,” Fluss said when asked for comment about Palestinian civilians being killed in Israeli attacks. “Israel has to protect itself… we have a responsibility to protect our people.”

When Israel targeted an ambulance being used to ferry Hamas leaders, Fluss lamented that his country was condemned for the attack, but not Hamas’ abuse or misuse of an ambulance.

The world also has a problem separating the terrorist Hamas from moderate Palestinians.

Israel has been hoping that the international community will put more pressure on Hamas, the Palestinian Authority and Iran to condemn or stop sponsoring terrorist activities. Israel says Iran is providing $1 billion a year to anti-Semitic extremist groups including Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthis in Yemen who have seized 17 Filipinos as hostages – an attack that is meant to show solidarity with Hamas.

Fluss warns that Islamist extremism “is a global phenomenon… if you don’t fight it, you will suffer from it, too.”

The United Nations, he says, “is certainly not a trusted organization by Israelis” because of its bias for the Palestinians.

Among those killed by Hamas on Oct. 7, Fluss pointed out, were Jewish peace activists pushing for a political solution with the Palestinians.

“We are trying to mitigate the suffering of civilians,” Fluss explained. “We are, of course, in a complicated situation.”

In this conflict, Israel is focused on two main objectives: to bring home all its citizens and foreigners (including two Filipinos) taken hostage by Hamas on Oct. 7, and to ensure that Hamas will never be able to repeat the assault.

“We had to enter into this war because we were attacked,” Fluss told us. “We cannot allow it to happen again.”

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The United Nations, he says, “is certainly not a trusted organization by Israelis” because of its bias for the Palestinians.

oh we wonder why

maybe because the UN is full of members that have experienced being colonized/mass-murdered/carpet-bombed/invaded by westerners

that's why they empathize with palestinians

only the psychopathic* west can't seem to understand that

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A marked lack of empathy is one of the hallmarks of psychopathy. Psychopaths do not have the same capacity for human feeling as the rest of us; they do not appear moved by the things that usually deeply affect others, such as seeing fellow human beings suffer or in distress. And this is perhaps why they do not experience genuine remorse for the hurt and misfortune that they inflict.

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Famous Fox News journalist Trey Yingst becomes one of the first Western journalists to enter the Hamas tunnels under the Al-Shifa hospital.

Hamas has their main headquarters in Gaza in, and below, the hospital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Trd8YguYHQ

Amir Tsarfati
The IDF arrested the director of Shifa Hospital and took him in for questioning following the footage of both the arrival of abductees to the hospital and the discovery of a terror tunnel system under the hospital despite of the manager’s denial that Hamas operated above or under the ground at the hospital.
This man as most Palestinians do, lied to the world!

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Alam nila talaga saan yung mga tunnels... pero no sign na may gumagamit... Mukhang either Hamas didn't use them or didn't even know of the tunnels under Al Shifa. Napapahiya talaga yung IDF.

Inside the tunnels beneath Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital

In one video published on the IDF’s official social media channels, IDF spokeswoman Masha Michelson, wearing olive green body armour and a helmet, shows off an array of captured Hamas weaponry, drones and laptops.

She enters an unlit tunnel, consisting of “multiple rooms”, including a bathroom and a kitchen area.

Despite Ms Michelson insisting her footage is evidence that “Hamas uses this place as a command and control centre”, there are no visible signs of any human activity in any of the rooms on the visual tour.

The walls of the cramped, concrete tunnels are bare and there is no rubbish on the floors of the underground facility, a sign that it hasn’t been used recently.

One of the rooms is tiled with a sink fitted to a steel cabinet, similar to those found in medical facilities.

An aerial shot, featured in a second IDF video, shows the entrance to the tunnel system nestled in a crater alongside the Al-Shifa.

Israeli soldiers take viewers deeper into the underground labyrinth, again only showing entirely empty shells of passages void of any signs of life.

A third video offers more proof that the network of tunnels had been used more recently, as an IDF cameraman clambers over piles of belongings strewn across the floor of a civilian house.

In one room, a group of heavily-armed Israeli troops stand over a set of stairs heading down into a dark tunnel, an empty plastic bottle of drink occupying the first step.

The footage, however, stops short at a metal, spiral stairway heading into the darkness below.

Instead, bringing the viewer back into the building above, which resembles a school with used chalkboards and English-language posters on the wall.

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Israel's liberal use of large US-made bombs accounts for the high civilian casualty toll in Gaza, military experts say: 'It's beyond anything that I've seen in my career'

Israel's use of large, American-made bombs is contributing to the massive death toll in Gaza, passing some of the deadliest conflicts in recent memory.

The killing in Gaza, aided by the use of 2,000-pound US-made bombs, is outpacing many of this century's "deadliest moments," including the United States campaigns in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, according to The New York Times.

The massive scale of Israel's attacks along with the use of large, US-made bombs in dense, urban areas have contributed to the massive death toll, according to the report.

While it's not entirely possible to calculate the exact number of civilian casualties in Gaza, researchers believe the 10,000 women and children reported dead by the Hamas-led Gaza Health Ministry to be an approximate, if conservative, estimate of civilian killings, according to the report.

The Gaza Health Ministry's most recent death toll released on November 10 included 11,078 deaths, according to the Associated Press.


According to the report, US military officials often believed that the most common American-made aerial bomb, which weighs 500 pounds, was too large to be used when fighting the Islamic state in Iraq and Syria. In contrast, Israel has been liberally using 2,000-pound bombs, which are also made in America, and are capable of crumbling entire apartment complexes, The Times reported.

Brian Castner, an Amnesty International weapons investigator and former US Air Force explosive ordnance disposal officer, told The Times that the bombs used in Gaza are larger than bombs used by the US to fight ISIS in Mosul in Iraq and Raqqa in Syria. Castner told the outlet that the explosives are more consistent with targeting underground structures such as tunnels.

"They are using extremely large weapons in extremely densely populated areas," Castner said. "It is the worst possible combination of factors."

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Elon Musk visits destroyed kibbutz and meets Netanyahu in wake of antisemitic post | CNN Business
Elon Musk in Israel

[emoji842]We saw the joy expressed by terrorists that were killing innocent civilians, including kids and babies:

[emoji842]It's troubling to see massive protests in almost every city in favor of Hamas

[emoji842]We must stop the propaganda that is convincing people to engage in murder

[emoji842] Israel must do in Gaza what the Allies did in Germany and Japan after WWII

Father of one of the hostages presented Elon Musk with a dog-tag inscribed “our hearts are hostage in Gaza”

Elon's reaction is above [emoji115]


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[emoji842] Israel must do in Gaza what the Allies did in Germany and Japan after WWII



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Patawa ba iyan? Tingin mo lang nagawa nila for the past 50 years and you expect them to change? Kahit may ceasefire sige pa rin yung killings sa West Bank...

Elon Musk is in Israel as part of a PR to repair his reputation with Jewish controlled companies and AIPAC that cut their ads from X...