Is WWIII inevitable?

**Egan101** · June 10th, 2022 01:32 PM

Assuming Russia and the Western allies won’t budge, a great leader would always seek the best for his people. Sometimes, facing defeat humbly could save more lives.

For Zelensky, he chose war instead of peace. He alone can stop the suffering of the Ukrainians. His defiance may seem heroic but at the cost of his country’s destruction and the carnage of its citizens. Once Russia leaves and the Western allies stop the flow of weapons, he is left with a country in ruins.

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**shadow** · June 10th, 2022 01:33 PM

Ganyan mga sinasabi mo, bakit Ukraine and zelengsky ang lumalabas na may kasalanan at gusto ng giyera where infact isang tao ang ang pwede talagang mag stop nito.

Bakit nawawala nanaman yun kasalanan kay Putin just like sa China during sa early part ng covid when they kept it a secret?

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**uls** · June 10th, 2022 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by tsupermario

maybe a ukrainian can shed some light, unless he is another alleged US puppet

Ukraine is desperate for peace, but we won’t sign up to a bogus Russian deal

Andriy Zagorodnyuk

Andriy Zagorodnyuk is a chairman of the Centre for Defence Strategies, and a former Ukrainian defence minister

Ukraine is desperate for peace, but we won’t sign up to a bogus Russian deal | Andriy Zagorodnyuk | The Guardian

gimme a break

his being ukrainian is irrelevant

he's part of the Establishment and comfortably far away from the war

it's DC think tank

syempre he wants to prolong the war

the whole DC Establishment wants to prolong the war

**uls** · June 10th, 2022 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by tsupermario

the MIC does not even need actual wars to make money. the threat of having one is enough…

pinaka siga na nga sila sa mundo

wala kaya lumaban sa kanila

but their defense budget is greater than everyone put together

they justify continuous spending by creating enemies / threats

they are the biggest threat to world peace

a country that needs to be constantly at war

to feed the MIC beast

**Egan101** · June 10th, 2022 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

Ganyan mga sinasabi mo, bakit Ukraine and zelengsky ang lumalabas na may kasalanan at gusto ng giyera where infact isang tao ang ang pwede talagang mag stop nito.

Bakit nawawala nanaman yun kasalanan kay Putin just like sa China during sa early part ng covid when they kept it a secret?

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Russia is all to blame for this invasion. The Western Allies could have negotiated for peace instead of prolonging the war.

However, Zelensky has all the power and understanding to do what’s best for his people. If accepting defeat means peace and the end of hostilities, I guess it’s the great sacrifice a leader should do. On the other hand, warmongers feed your pride and push you to never accept defeat.

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**uls** · June 10th, 2022 02:04 PM

if you believe Zelensky is only a puppet (which i do) then it is not up to Zelensky to decide (ceasefire)

kahit gusto ni Zelensky kung ayaw ng mga boss niya wala siya magagawa

binigyan na siya ng script -- keep asking for weapons, surrender no territory (coz if he surrenders territory it sends a bad signal)

he's an actor playing president of Ukraine

the real decisionmakers are in DC, London, Brussels

**shadow** · June 10th, 2022 02:14 PM

Yun exemple nga sa article na meron pumasok sa bahay ninyo and then gusto sa sala na siya titira at sa kanya na yun para walang gulo, papayag ba kayo para matapos na lang gulo?

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**uls** · June 10th, 2022 02:23 PM

in other words, the decisionmakers in DC, London, Brussels are will to keep supplying weapons and sacrifice more Ukrainian lives just to send that signal to world

sorry Ukraine di ka pwede mag surrender

may katwiran mga amo mo

Ukraine is being used as an example

sending a signal to China:

"this is what happens if you invade Taiwan"

"it's going to be very costly for you"

**shadow** · June 10th, 2022 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by uls

in other words, the decisionmakers in DC, London, Brussels are will to keep supplying weapons and sacrifice more Ukrainian lives just to send that signal to world

sorry Ukraine di ka pwede mag surrender

may katwiran mga amo mo

Ukraine is being used as an example

sending a signal to China:

"this is what happens if you invade Taiwan"

"it's going to be very costly for you"

So ganun na lang nga dapat any country na meron mag invade eh mag lay down and die na lang just to keep the peace?

Kunin na lang nila kung ano gusto at anong gusto nila gawin. Ok lang.

Again why at we blaming the victim of the invasion instead na condeming the invader?

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**uls** · June 10th, 2022 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

Yun exemple nga sa article na meron pumasok sa bahay ninyo and then gusto sa sala na siya titira at sa kanya na yun para walang gulo, papayag ba kayo para matapos na lang gulo?

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yes that's why i said Ukraine doesn't make the decision kahit hirap na sila at gusto na nila mag surrender

kasi bad signal yan

it sends a signal to china that if they invade taiwan and manage to beat taiwan's defenses + western assistance, they can keep taiwan

so hindi pwede mag surrender ang ukraine

the implication is bigger than ukraine so it's not up to ukraine to decide

the war will end when the Empire managers in the West decide it ends