Transport strike set on May 12

[chua_riwap]

^^ I saw that also. Naghihimutok yung mga tricycle drivers. He-eh!

[Pong]

World oil prices ang nagdidikta sa presyo ng langis maski pa saan ka naroon lupalop ng mundo. Lahat naman ng tao nararamdaman ang epekto nito. Kung umarte kasi at magsalita ang mga driver ng PUV's, parang sila lang ang anak ng Diyos. Pag di nila gusto nangyayari sa kanila, ngawa agad. Kung hindi na sila nanghihinayang sa isang araw na di sila kikita, well...majority sa Pilipinas e hindi ganun ang takbo ng utak. Magtrabaho na lang sana sila! Aba e di hamak na mas marami ang pepestehin nila tuwing ginagawa nila yan. Kung di na nila kaya at sa tingin nila e di na sapat ang kinikita, baka oras na para humanap na sila ng bagong pagkakakitaan o raket.

[boydapa]

yun govnmnt ksi truogh the DOE ganito sabi wala tayo magagawa world prices yan asus tama ba naman ganyang attitude!


dapat

1. bilhin at controlin at petron
2. magrefine tyo sariling oil
3 bumili sa naon opec countries.
4. yun contrata natin sa cng sa batangas ba yun palpak na naman lugi tayo sa shell niyari na naman tayo

5. magtayo ng sariling oil refinery tayo tapos lahat nun magagaling na oil men natin na ofw dyan imbis na nasa ibang bansa pabalikin yan at dito nlng sila magtrabaho---langhya ang dami natin magagaling na OFW nasa oil industry sa ME sayang talent nila di pakinabangan ng bayan

6. ipaconvert sa cng mga bus

7. irepeal yan inutil na oil deregulation LAw na yan!

8. magkaron ng nationalistic oil program

kasimple lang naman wala ba silang bayag gawin yan or nabubusalan lng mga bunganga nila ng pera mula sa mga oil companies

[Monseratto]

Sana nakatira tayo sa wonderland mo, bro. Parang yun pera tumutubo lang sa puno, tapos mga oil refineries puwedeng gawin agad na walang puhunan. The last thing you can add to your list is for free gas for everyone...

[CVT]

Ang daming jeepneys sa lansangan kaninang umaga.... Kasisilip ko lang dito sa kalye rito sa SouthMM,- marami pa rin..... Kailan ba ang simula ng strike? ...............


6000:mobile:

[boydapa]

Monseratto:

Sana nakatira tayo sa wonderland mo, bro. Parang yun pera tumutubo lang sa puno, tapos mga oil refineries puwedeng gawin agad na walang puhunan. The last thing you can add to your list is for free gas for everyone...

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puhunan problema ba yan puhunan na yan.....


nandun yun puhunan sa bulsa ng mga politiko natin

this thread is asking for a solution

thats the solution!

it is just a simple problem that demands a simple solution

what makes it complicated is the politics behind it ganun lng kasimple yan!

[Stoner]

CVT, hindi kasi lahat ng PUJ groups sumali sa strike, I think.

Speaking of oil prices though, I just need to get this off my chest...

...how come these oil companies are very quick to raise prices when cost of oil in the world market increases, but drags their feet in lowering them when the cost per barrel decreases? Is it only me, or does anybody else feel the same way?

[uls]

yun govnmnt ksi truogh the DOE ganito sabi wala tayo magagawa world prices yan asus tama ba naman ganyang attitude!


dapat

1. bilhin at controlin at petron
2. magrefine tyo sariling oil
3 bumili sa naon opec countries.
4. yun contrata natin sa cng sa batangas ba yun palpak na naman lugi tayo sa shell niyari na naman tayo

5. magtayo ng sariling oil refinery tayo tapos lahat nun magagaling na oil men natin na ofw dyan imbis na nasa ibang bansa pabalikin yan at dito nlng sila magtrabaho---langhya ang dami natin magagaling na OFW nasa oil industry sa ME sayang talent nila di pakinabangan ng bayan

6. ipaconvert sa cng mga bus

7. irepeal yan inutil na oil deregulation LAw na yan!

8. magkaron ng nationalistic oil program

kasimple lang naman wala ba silang bayag gawin yan or nabubusalan lng mga bunganga nila ng pera mula sa mga oil companies

1. Yung pambili po... nasaan?

2. May refinery po tayo dito. Ang iniimport natin ung raw material --- ung crude oil.

3. Kung sa OPEC member o hindi OPEC member, mahal parin ang oil.

4. di ko alam yan... pero hindi CNG ang concern natin. Gasolina at diesel ang concern natin.

5. pauuwiin mo ang mga pinoy na nagtatrabaho sa oil companies abroad? Mapapasweldo mo ba ng kasing taas ng natatanggap nila sa abroad? And hindi po refinery problema natin... presyo ng crude oil po ang problema. Actually mas mura pa ang imported finished product na gasoline and diesel.

6. Bus companies know best how to cut their operating cost. If they are not converting their buses to CNG, there must be a good reason why.

7. Nationalistic oil program? pwede sana maging nationalistic sa oil resources ng iyong bansa KUNG OIL PRODUCER ang iyong bansa. Tulad ng pag nationalize ni Chavez sa mga oil firms sa Venezuela.

WALA MAGAGAWA ANG PINAS kasi:

1. OIL IMPORTER TAYO.

2. Wala tayo puhunan para gumalaw. Madami nga tayo ideas. Mahilig tayo mag exchange ng ideas. Puro usap usap usap kwento kwento kwento...

Pero pag implementation na, wala gusto maglabas ng pera. Pang merienda palang habang nagkukwentuhan KKB pa.

[wowiesy]

suspended na ba ang color coding?

on urong- sulong ng PISTON..

I'm just speculating, I think ang original plan nila is to just quietly stage a strike na hindi na dumadaan sa media at balita.. that way talagang magugulat di lamang ang riding public, kungdi pati na rin ang gobyerno.. sa ganung paraan, hindi makakapag react agad ang government, talagang hassle sa mga tao.. which will (hopefully for them) will lead to the riding public blaming it all on the government... kaya lang, inunahan sila mag press release ng ibang grupo... sa ganang akin lang naman.... binansagan na ang PISTON na progresibo... naka linya lagi with the likes of the other groups and party lists... ang hidden motive talaga ng mga grupo na ito ay pabagsakin ang pamahalaan at sila ang mamuno... but if you look at them, sila mismo hesitant i-implement yung mga changes na gusto nila ipatupad ng pamahalaan in a national scale sa kani - kanilang mga sariling grupo...

important lang is kung sino dapat ang sisisihin... pero yung solusyon... hindi sila tumutulong sa implementasyon..

[uls]

wala ba learning curve ang mga tao?

Siguro naman sa dalas nila mag strike, nasasanay ang mga tao sa style nila...

people have figured out ways to go from one place to another without them.

Pansin ko sa mga kasama ko dito sa work, tuwing may transport strike, wala nag aabsent, hindi pa na-le-late.

they have found ways around it.

Luma na style ng PISTON. They are a one-trick-pony. iisa lang weapon nila.

The public will eventually develop immunity against their style.

PISTON is no longer as influential as they think they are.

dami na nag-e-FX.

dami na naka-motor.

mga pasahero nila dati mga yan.

[Lucius]

What do you expect from those squatters? Di sila makaka-gawa ng okay na strategy. Kaya wala silang asenso. They deserve to be there, down there.

[Monseratto]

puhunan problema ba yan puhunan na yan.....


nandun yun puhunan sa bulsa ng mga politiko natin

this thread is asking for a solution

thats the solution!

it is just a simple problem that demands a simple solution

what makes it complicated is the politics behind it ganun lng kasimple yan!

Sounds more like trolling to me than a solution. Kung gusto mo ng simple solution, dapat binoto na lang natin Eddie Gil. May libreng pera ka na, may entertainment ka pa.

[ringostarr]

mga drayber na nagtatrabaho at kumikita pero hindi nagbabayad ng WTX and Income Tax

mga drayber na sobrang reklamador kaya kinekelangan mahalan ng gobyerno ang gasoline vs. diesel (kaya tuloy napabili ako ng diesel car) eh suppose to be mas mahal na diesel ngaun kasi sa ibang bansa ganun

mga drayber na sobrang reklamador kaya kinekelangan may special price sila sa gasolinahan

mga drayber na ok lang banggain ka kasi ang dahilan lang nila wala silang pambayad
at mahirap lang sila

mga drayber na nagdadagdag pa ng more steel and stainless sa mga jeepney nila para lalo makakagas or maka-intimidate ng mga private owners na takot magasgasan ang pintura

mga drayber na kunwari eh wala sila makita trabaho kaya naging driver pero sa tutoo lang gustong-gusto nila mag-drive lang. san ka pa pinakamadaling trabaho, drive lang ng drive pag liit kita, sigaw sa gobyerno na taasan ang minimum fare

criminal tingin ko sa ganito, and we still glorify these types ...

[jpdm]

Eh... anong gagawin ng Gobyerno? Tumataas talaga ang presyo ng langis sa world market... paano mo pipigilan?
What will the government do? Remove the tax on diesel completely (even though it is already subsidized for PUV drivers) and have no budget to run the country next year? Increase fare prices to the point that commuters will not be able to afford to go to work?

Simple. Suspend the R-vat. Yan ang nagpataas sa presyo ng langis sa Pinas.Hindi yung tariff sa oil imports. May tariff (1%) pa rin naman e. The government must not rely to much on indirect taxes like value added taxes. Masakit sa mga maliliit na mamamayan yan. Because all transactions (regardless if these were done by rich or poor) are slapped with the same tax rate.

The government must raise its efficiently in collecting direct taxes (imposed to those who have the ability to pay) such as INCOME or CORPORATE taxes to get more revenues. Dagdagan din ang taxes sa mga luxury goods at non essential goods such as jewelries, cigarettes, liquors and beers, luxury cars, non-essential gadgets, condominiums etc...

Mga mahihirap pagbawalan bumili ng liquor tulad ng Tanduay at Ginebra bilog at manigarilyo. ala ng makain pinang-iinom at binibisyo pa..Hulihin on the spot....joke...

There's a simple solution, really, to this simple problem. Cut down PUV registrations. Sa daming colorum na PUV sa kalye, at sa sangkatutak na approved lines per area, sino bang di maghihirap... if you have twenty buses going after the same twenty passengers on EDSA (I see this a lot)... obviously, something's wrong.

With all due respect, its not an easy solution.

With lack of available jobs in the Philippines (including OFWs who came home and just invested in jeepney operations: Katas ng Saudi)this is the most viable livelihood alternative...

Hindi naman mag-papasada sa mga probinsya (remote and rural)yan dahil walang pasahero....

its a complicated problem actually.

Kung tamang-tama lang ang mga sasakyan sa damin ng pasahero, walang problema. Walang hintayan, walang gitgitan, walang traffic (well, meron pa, pero mas mabilis).

Im praying for this also. But can it really be done especially in Metro Manila?siguro in the provinces especially in areas not yet saturated by public transport...(kaya lang hindi nga lucrative)

Buti pa mga ibang bus companies, may internal arrangement na hindi sila magkasabay sa ka-line nila sa bawat stop. Mas mabilis. Mas efficient. Kung lahat lang ng public utility dito sa pinas ganyan, hindi malulugi ang lahat.

Problema pa rin ng MMDA yan at sa probinsya. With more that 3 or 4 bus companies competing for the same route nagkakatraffic at bumabagal din kasi nag-aagawan sa pasahero...


Solusyon. Government must give alternative jobs to Pinoys so that they will not just opt to drive jeepneys, buses and tricycles...

[badsekktor]

mukhang maganda mag-invest sa oil ngayon ah! oil prices will not go down.... that's reality....

buti nga mga kita nila walang income tax na binabawas....

tanggalan siguro ng evat ang oil products para kahit papano bumaba ang gasolina (may epekto din to kahit papano sa electricity)

saka implement nila ang single dispatching entity para hindi nag-aagawan ng pasahero.

[A121]

sa lahat ng threads na nakita ko dito...

parang walang kasagutan sa lahat ng problema ng Pilipinas.

better go somewhere where I can be more productive.

[ringostarr]

Simple. Suspend the R-vat. Yan ang nagpataas sa presyo ng langis sa Pinas.Hindi yung tariff sa oil imports. May tariff (1%) pa rin naman e. The government must not rely to much on indirect taxes like value added taxes. Masakit sa mga maliliit na mamamayan yan. Because all transactions (regardless if these were done by rich or poor) are slapped with the same tax rate.

The government must raise its efficiently in collecting direct taxes (imposed to those who have the ability to pay) such as INCOME or CORPORATE taxes to get more revenues. Dagdagan din ang taxes sa mga luxury goods at non essential goods such as jewelries, cigarettes, liquors and beers, luxury cars, non-essential gadgets, condominiums etc...

Mga mahihirap pagbawalan bumili ng liquor tulad ng Tanduay at Ginebra bilog at manigarilyo. ala ng makain pinang-iinom at binibisyo pa..Hulihin on the spot....joke...





With all due respect, its not an easy solution.

With lack of available jobs in the Philippines (including OFWs who came home and just invested in jeepney operations: Katas ng Saudi)this is the most viable livelihood alternative...

Hindi naman mag-papasada sa mga probinsya (remote and rural)yan dahil walang pasahero....

its a complicated problem actually.


Im praying for this also. But can it really be done especially in Metro Manila?siguro in the provinces especially in areas not yet saturated by public transport...(kaya lang hindi nga lucrative)

Problema pa rin ng MMDA yan at sa probinsya. With more that 3 or 4 bus companies competing for the same route nagkakatraffic at bumabagal din kasi nag-aagawan sa pasahero...


Solusyon. Government must give alternative jobs to Pinoys so that they will not just opt to drive jeepneys, buses and tricycles...

I agree with all that you said except govt must give jobs. Govt. only provides freedom for each and every one of us to use our minds productively.

the problem with people who seek livelihood in the transport biz, tamad mag-isip ng ibang pagkakakitaan and parati pinipili [i]the road most travelled [i] ... in this case literal talaga, Philippine roads

saan ka naman nakakita pulis mag-drive ng fx as sideline, dating OFW mag-drive ng fx, jeepney pagbalik-bayan, dating mataas ang rango militar mag-open ng biz bus or taxi company

masyado Peso sign ang tingin sa lansangan kaya hayan nangyari ngaun, binanatan tayo ng tadhana tig P50 per liter na fuel pano na investment saka ipon ... mababawi pa kaya.

dati nakarinig ako ng agent na naghihikayat ng OFW mag-invest sa PUV. sabi niya, "walang katalo-talo" there's no such thing ...

[jpdm]

I agree with all that you said except govt must give jobs. Govt. only provides freedom for each and every one of us to use our minds productively.

the problem with people who seek livelihood in the transport biz, tamad mag-isip ng ibang pagkakakitaan and parati pinipili [i]the road most travelled [i] ... in this case literal talaga, Philippine roads

saan ka naman nakakita pulis mag-drive ng fx as sideline, dating OFW mag-drive ng fx, jeepney pagbalik-bayan, dating mataas ang rango militar mag-open ng biz bus or taxi company

masyado Peso sign ang tingin sa lansangan kaya hayan nangyari ngaun, binanatan tayo ng tadhana tig P50 per liter na fuel pano na investment saka ipon ... mababawi pa kaya.

dati nakarinig ako ng agent na naghihikayat ng OFW mag-invest sa PUV. sabi niya, "walang katalo-talo" there's no such thing ...

Sabihin mo sa kanila yan

[CVT]

Simple. Suspend the R-vat. Yan ang nagpataas sa presyo ng langis sa Pinas.Hindi yung tariff sa oil imports. May tariff (1%) pa rin naman e. The government must not rely to much on indirect taxes like value added taxes. Masakit sa mga maliliit na mamamayan yan. Because all transactions (regardless if these were done by rich or poor) are slapped with the same tax rate.

The government must raise its efficiently in collecting direct taxes (imposed to those who have the ability to pay) such as INCOME or CORPORATE taxes to get more revenues. Dagdagan din ang taxes sa mga luxury goods at non essential goods such as jewelries, cigarettes, liquors and beers, luxury cars, non-essential gadgets, condominiums etc...

Agree here. The world economy in general, is driven by the price of oil and oil products. So, the EVAT that our national government charges, may be used as a safety net by them (by lowering the EVAT rate or worst case, eliminating it) for any surges in oil prices. And, concentrate on collecting taxes somewhere else (luxury and vice taxes), to compensate.

Increasing the basic wage is not the answer, because you cannot revert to the old level if things get better, as this is against the law.... With this, we become less competitive, too....

6000:mobile:

[jpdm]

This government loves to hit investors specially local investors everytime their stupid policies backfire

For instance, the government's low priority to agriculture and industry resulted to our weak agricultural and industrial sectors are either limping with lack of new investments, poor infrastructure government subsidy and almost decimated by imports...

Kahit ano pa sabihin nila, with all their press releases...delikado na talaga ang ekonomiya natin...it will collapse...

Anyway, instead changing the policies, they resort to penalizing the following...

...farmers, households, retailers of rice and even blaming other countries (hay naku....) except the inutile DA and NFA and partly PhilRice and UPLB for the rice crisis.......

...forget about IRRI, it does not care about the host country. it only cares about how it can serve its benefactors.........

....local and foreign investors by reducing the coverage of Investment Priority Plan ,investment perks and incentives, protective tariffs, and safeguards instead of blaming the lack of a coherence and focus of the DTI, DOF, BOI, BOC, NEDA.... for the weak industrial production, no new investments and reduce exports..

...although partly to blame, MERALCO and other IPPs and electric firms.. (this is the danger of giving the utilities sub-sector to private firms) for high power rates.....whereas its the infamous royalty, evat-rvat and the inept Napocor is the culprit)

Hay naku....