Batas Kasambahay, ano sa tingin nyo?

[111prez]

Check it out here: Department of Labor and Employment - Pages

Now that it is law and no longer the subject of speculative discussion, what is your take on this?

Will this be another law where it is good to have but few will, or can, comply?

[boybi]

Our kasambahays receive way more than the set minimum wage. That law is irrelevant to me.

[mateomarco]

Actually, maganda talaga yung ibang provisions ng law na ito pero you have to think of the employers as well...kailangan balance lang...

Yung mga kakilala kong may kasambahan...napapakunot-noo duon sa ibang provisions ng law na ito...

[CVT]

Our kasambahays receive way more than the set minimum wage. That law is irrelevant to me.

Same with us, bro... But how about the other benefits?

20. What are the mandatory benefits of the kasambahay?
a. Monthly minimum wage;
b. 5 days annual service incentive leave with pay;
c. 13th month pay;
d. SSS benefit;
e. PhilHealth benefit;
f. Pag-IBIG benefit;*
g. Daily rest period of 8 (total) hours; and
h. Weekly rest period of 24 (uninterrupted) hours

Now, that makes it more interesting!

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[Altis6453]

My take:

If the new Kasambahay Law makes it difficult or more onerous for employers to comply, it'll likely just discourage them from hiring household help. Take for example, payment of SSS, Pag-Ibig, PhilHealth, they're ok, but will employers really take timeout from their office work just to pay the contributions?

There has to be a better mechanism to comply.

[CVT]

My take:

If the new Kasambahay Law makes it difficult or more onerous for employers to comply, it'll likely just discourage them from hiring household help. Take for example, payment of SSS, Pag-Ibig, PhilHealth, they're ok, but will employers really take timeout from their office work just to pay the contributions?

There has to be a better mechanism to comply.

Right, bro.

Even if you are paying your kasambahay double or triple the minimum wage, they are still entitled to those mandatory benefits....

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[boybi]

20. What are the mandatory benefits of the kasambahay?
a. Monthly minimum wage;
b. 5 days annual service incentive leave with pay;
c. 13th month pay;
d. SSS benefit;
e. PhilHealth benefit;
f. Pag-IBIG benefit;*
g. Daily rest period of 8 (total) hours; and
h. Weekly rest period of 24 (uninterrupted) hours

a. above minimum
b. nope
c. yes
d. yes
e. yes
f. nope
g. more than 8hrs tulog nila. after 8pm wala na kaming pinapagawa sa kanila, don't know what time sila natutulog. tapos 6am sila nagigising. tapos after lunch tulog na naman sila ng 2hrs.
h. iniipon nila itong weekly rest day. mahal kasi pamasahe.

[vinj]

Sa amin, above minimum wage, may bonus sa December, may libreng pamasahe pauwi yearly and one month leave with pay pa.

[1D4LV]

ganyan din kami. we comply.... meron pa nga kaming extra perks like:

a) weekly day off
b) mid year and christmas bonus
c) above minimum pay.

i think this law addresses abuses din kasi.

[CVT]

a. above minimum
b. nope
c. yes
d. yes
e. yes
f. nope
g. more than 8hrs tulog nila. after 8pm wala na kaming pinapagawa sa kanila, don't know what time sila natutulog. tapos 6am sila nagigising. tapos after lunch tulog na naman sila ng 2hrs.
h. iniipon nila itong weekly rest day. mahal kasi pamasahe.

Pareho tayo bro.... The 5-day paid VL is news to me. And PAG-IBIG, too...

During weekdays, after their morning chores,- panuod na lang sila ng TV sa tanghali/hapon,- o tulog.....

They're off after dinner (around 7PM), except when there are family gatherings,- but they happen only occasionally, which they enjoy rin because of the special food and drinks, gifts and company..... On regular nights,- nanunuod na lang sila ng TV until around 10PM....

Weekly rest day,- ipon din nila ito...

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[yebo]

a. above minimum
b. yes, 2 weeks with pay plus round trip plane/boat ticket
c. yes, 1 month pay but given every service year (not december 31 but the end of the month they were hired). pag december cash gift lang, last time e 50% yata binigay ni misis sa kanila.
d. still working on it, waiting for their birth certificate
e. as in d
f. as in d
g. 12 hours nga nanunuod ng tv e! saka nagfa-facebook!
h. ayaw nila, kasama sila sa amin pag sunday. kasi pag mag-day off sila sagot nila lunch and dinner nila, pag kasama namin e di libre kain kung saan kami kakain. nagpapaalam once a month pero bumabalik din pag oras na ng dinner. nagtatabaan na nga e hahaha! kahit bakasyon sumasama sila, mas madami pa nga sila napupuntahan kesa sa employee sa ayala hahaha! free hotel na free breakfast, meryenda, lunch, meryenda, dinner pa.

[boybi]

Yung yaya ng anak ko, 8 years na sa amin. Magmula nung nakaapak sa bahay namin hindi na umalis. Never nag day off. Pinipilit namin magbakasyon muna sa probinsya nila, ayaw naman.

Pero every time na mag out of town or country kami, basta kasama mga kids, kasama din sya.

Na-deny lang sa US visa, kasama din sana sya sa US.

[CVT]

a. above minimum
b. yes, 2 weeks with pay plus round trip plane/boat ticket
c. yes, 1 month pay but given every service year (not december 31 but the end of the month they were hired). pag december cash gift lang, last time e 50% yata binigay ni misis sa kanila.
d. still working on it, waiting for their birth certificate
e. as in d
f. as in d
g. 12 hours nga nanunuod ng tv e! saka nagfa-facebook!
h. ayaw nila, kasama sila sa amin pag sunday. kasi pag mag-day off sila sagot nila lunch and dinner nila, pag kasama namin e di libre kain kung saan kami kakain. nagpapaalam once a month pero bumabalik din pag oras na ng dinner. nagtatabaan na nga e hahaha! kahit bakasyon sumasama sila, mas madami pa nga sila napupuntahan kesa sa employee sa ayala hahaha! free hotel na free breakfast, meryenda, lunch, meryenda, dinner pa.

Oo nga, kasama namin silang kumain sa medyo magandang restaurants kapag Sunday, kaya enjoy rin sila...

At kapag may bakasyon kami dito na land travel,- kasama rin sila.... (Suwerte naman ng yaya ng anak ni bro.boybi)

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[boybi]

Oo nga, kasama namin silang kumain sa medyo magandang restaurants kapag Sunday, kaya enjoy rin sila...

At kapag may bakasyon kami dito na land travel,- kasama rin sila.... (Suwerte naman ng yaya ng anak ni bro.boybi)

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Swertihan kasi makakuha ng maayos na kasambahay. Naka 17 na palit ng yaya yung panganay ko in just 5yrs. Kaya etong last yaya, nung nakita namin na ok sya, di na namin pinabayaan. We treated her like a family member. Now she has her own room inside the house na, not in the maid's quarter. Ngayong bakasyon ang school, dito sya sa office namin tumutulong mag file. Pag may school kasi sya na nagaasikaso sa mga foods ng mga bata, and also sa pag followup sa mga assignments and other school works.

[111prez]

The law is not only about what the kasambahays are entitled to but also the obligations of the amo.

One of the obligations of the amo is to register with the SSS as an employer.

[Bin Diesel]

Yung yaya ng anak ko, 8 years na sa amin. Magmula nung nakaapak sa bahay namin hindi na umalis. Never nag day off. Pinipilit namin magbakasyon muna sa probinsya nila, ayaw naman.

Pero every time na mag out of town or country kami, basta kasama mga kids, kasama din sya.

Na-deny lang sa US visa, kasama din sana sya sa US.

Boss, may opening pa ba sa inyo yung kasama din lagi at all expenses paid.

[d'flash]

sir Yebo, boybi at CVT baka may opening na driver sa inyo.

[marky0910]

I am not discriminating against kasambahays ah, yung kasama namin eh buong pamilya silang nakatira samin, I have no problem with that. I pay for their children's education, they eat what we eat, sleep on the same type of mattresses that we sleep on, part of the family in short.

This law virtually makes them regular employees, yes, just employees. But, if they are rally strict in implementing this law, siguro naman may right na tayo to do these things:

1. Singilin sila sa kinakain nila, sa opisina hindi naman libre ang kain ah.
2. Bawal manood ng tv during working hours
3. Pag day off, dapat aalis sila ng bahay at babalik nalang pagkatapos
4. Singilin ang tinutulugan nilang kwarto

I know I'm being sarcastic, pero pinipilit ng mga nasa gobyerno na gawin silang parang empleyado ng opisina diba. Yung tipong pamilya na nga halos ang turing mo, lumabag ka pa rin sa batas dahil di mo nabigyan ng "incentive leave"?

[flakez]

feeling maraming employer na hindi na kukuha ng mga kasambahay dahil diyan. tingin ko lang. hindi naman kasi lahat ng may kasambahay mayaman talaga. meron sakto lang. konting tipid lang para may katulong kasi walang mag-aalaga sa mga bata. ngayon ung konting higpit nila baka hndi na magkasya. so tanggalin na lang si ate and mag sakripisyo ung amo.

[CVT]

I am not discriminating against kasambahays ah, yung kasama namin eh buong pamilya silang nakatira samin, I have no problem with that. I pay for their children's education, they eat what we eat, sleep on the same type of mattresses that we sleep on, part of the family in short.

This law virtually makes them regular employees, yes, just employees. But, if they are rally strict in implementing this law, siguro naman may right na tayo to do these things:

1. Singilin sila sa kinakain nila, sa opisina hindi naman libre ang kain ah.
2. Bawal manood ng tv during working hours
3. Pag day off, dapat aalis sila ng bahay at babalik nalang pagkatapos
4. Singilin ang tinutulugan nilang kwarto

I know I'm being sarcastic, pero pinipilit ng mga nasa gobyerno na gawin silang parang empleyado ng opisina diba. Yung tipong pamilya na nga halos ang turing mo, lumabag ka pa rin sa batas dahil di mo nabigyan ng "incentive leave"?

I tend to agree with you bro to a large extent... Especially if you pay your household helps well and you treat them as family....

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