Batas Kasambahay, ano sa tingin nyo?

[Manilablock]

Kung ikaw ay employed by a company, the company will declare you as part of the operating expenses.

With the Kasambahay Law, ikaw ngayon ay naging employer at ung kasambahay ay empleyado mo.


1. How should your Income Tax be computed? Considering part of your income now goes to your kasambahay as salary + benefits + bonus.

[1D4LV]

Kung ikaw ay employed by a company, the company will declare you as part of the operating expenses.

With the Kasambahay Law, ikaw ngayon ay naging employer at ung kasambahay ay empleyado mo.


1. How should your Income Tax be computed? Considering part of your income now goes to your kasambahay as salary + benefits + bonus.

valid point.... dapat tax deductible ito ah....

[CVT]

Isulong natin iyan,- dapat tax deductible iyan!!!

Employer ka na ring tinuring!

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[Altis6453]

The retroactive contribution thing with PAGIBIG and SSS is f#ucked up.

If my understanidng is correct, household helpers were classified as voluntary contributors prior to the passage of the Kasambahay Law. Why are employers being made to pay for contributions that was supposedly only voluntary to begin with?

There's nothing in the law which says that coverage with PAGIBIG, SSS and PHILHEALTH are retroactive from date of commencement of employment. Kung ganun din lang, I'd much rather outsource and hire a cleaning lady who comes in every other day to clean the house and do the dishes. Cooked food I can either buy or learn how to do. Laundry can also be outsourced.

[wowiesy]

Isulong natin iyan,- dapat tax deductible iyan!!!

Employer ka na ring tinuring!

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Possible siguro... Kung may EWT yung kasambahay... Kung ialign sa latest rulings... Substituted filing pag single employer... No need to withold pag minimum... So pag mataas sa minimum, and iwithold yung taxes on compensation ng kasambahay technically pwede na consider expense yung kasambahay... Altho used in business ba?

[wowiesy]

The retroactive contribution thing with PAGIBIG and SSS is f#ucked up.

If my understanidng is correct, household helpers were classified as voluntary contributors prior to the passage of the Kasambahay Law. Why are employers being made to pay for contributions that was supposedly only voluntary to begin with?

There's nothing in the law which says that coverage with PAGIBIG, SSS and PHILHEALTH are retroactive from date of commencement of employment. Kung ganun din lang, I'd much rather outsource and hire a cleaning lady who comes in every other day to clean the house and do the dishes. Cooked food I can either buy or learn how to do. Laundry can also be outsourced.

Again... Kung the voluntary bracket was designed to cover the informal sector... And voluntary nga.... Sa pag kambyo ng sss na backpay lahat ng years only shows that sss is only looking after increasing its asset base... Argument ng sss is that should something have happened ay employer ang sasagot sa lahat which is often the case... Gusto lang ng sss makuha yung contribution kasi for sure naman d makakakuha ng retroactive benefit yung kasambahay... All the benefits they provide rely on xx number of contribution which means di rin makapag avail ng benefits yung kasambahay in the past.... So the past, at least for kasambahay is moot and academic... And yet they are sneaky enough to make it part of current kasambahay guidelines a mandatory yung past years!!!!

[Manilablock]

The retroactive contribution thing with PAGIBIG and SSS is f#ucked up.

If my understanidng is correct, household helpers were classified as voluntary contributors prior to the passage of the Kasambahay Law. Why are employers being made to pay for contributions that was supposedly only voluntary to begin with?

There's nothing in the law which says that coverage with PAGIBIG, SSS and PHILHEALTH are retroactive from date of commencement of employment. Kung ganun din lang, I'd much rather outsource and hire a cleaning lady who comes in every other day to clean the house and do the dishes. Cooked food I can either buy or learn how to do. Laundry can also be outsourced.

I believe SSS/Pag-ibig is just pushing retroactive kasi nga naman additional fund yan, ipapakulong ka ba ng SSS kung hindi mo bayaran ung years na dapat covered ung kasambahay mo?

Mas malupit pa nga kung lalabas sa record ng SSS/Pag-ibig na ikaw mismo ay meron din palya sa hulog, pero hanga ngayon hindi nila masingil ung employer mo.

[CVT]

The retroactive contribution thing with PAGIBIG and SSS is f#ucked up.

If my understanidng is correct, household helpers were classified as voluntary contributors prior to the passage of the Kasambahay Law. Why are employers being made to pay for contributions that was supposedly only voluntary to begin with?
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That was what we were doing with our Kasambahays years before the Kasambahay Law took effect ... Voluntary contributors sila (and we pay for their contributions)....

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[Ry_Tower]

The retroactive contribution thing with PAGIBIG and SSS is f#ucked up.

If my understanidng is correct, household helpers were classified as voluntary contributors prior to the passage of the Kasambahay Law. Why are employers being made to pay for contributions that was supposedly only voluntary to begin with?

There's nothing in the law which says that coverage with PAGIBIG, SSS and PHILHEALTH are retroactive from date of commencement of employment. Kung ganun din lang, I'd much rather outsource and hire a cleaning lady who comes in every other day to clean the house and do the dishes. Cooked food I can either buy or learn how to do. Laundry can also be outsourced.

Dapat yung babayaran lang eh yung time na ipanasa or approved na. Hindi puwede retroactive nga. May punto ka dyan sir!

[CVT]

Possible siguro... Kung may EWT yung kasambahay... Kung ialign sa latest rulings... Substituted filing pag single employer... No need to withold pag minimum... So pag mataas sa minimum, and iwithold yung taxes on compensation ng kasambahay technically pwede na consider expense yung kasambahay... Altho used in business ba?

In my limited legal sense, yes, they are being used in "business"...

They do the household chores, instead of us- while we go out in our "business" of earning money as employees....

May mga abugado ba rito who can spin a case (what we pay to the Kasambahays in terms of salaries and benefits should be tax deductible - just like the exemptions we are claiming for raising our kids below 18) around this?

Make the government eat their own dust!

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[CVT]

One more thing, and this is uncomfortably inconsistent with the SSS.

I understand that if there are misses in your SSS contribution, for whatever reason there was (employer's failure to remit or unrecorded transaction et al), the member is not allowed to pay for the missed contributions, just to settle the issue....

But now, the SSS is pushing for retro-payment of up to 5 years (nga ba?) for the Kasambahay?!...

They want a formal employer-employee relationship with the Kasambahays by institutionalizing all of these?

Then, they should let the employer claim from the BIR what rightfully are expenses to their household operations!

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[Zeus]

Pwede ba Kasambahay na lang bahalang bumayad ng buong SSS, Pagibig etc? isaad na lang sa contract na let say 6000. kasama na lahat dyan? kung nagbayad o di nagbayad ng SSS, Pagibig etc. wala ka nang pananagutan?

[111prez]

Pwede ba Kasambahay na lang bahalang bumayad ng buong SSS, Pagibig etc? isaad na lang sa contract na let say 6000. kasama na lahat dyan? kung nagbayad o di nagbayad ng SSS, Pagibig etc. wala ka nang pananagutan?

Unfortunately, the short sighted law does not allow this since you will have to be reported as an employer

Hindi na puede mag report ang kasambahay na self employed sila

[wowiesy]

Pwede ba Kasambahay na lang bahalang bumayad ng buong SSS, Pagibig etc? isaad na lang sa contract na let say 6000. kasama na lahat dyan? kung nagbayad o di nagbayad ng SSS, Pagibig etc. wala ka nang pananagutan?

on the issue of all in.. or some document to say / prove na binigay mo na sa kasambahay, at binayaan mo na sya ang pumila para magbayad, etc... as per interview in the past (I think DOLE Sec Baldoz ata yun).. puwede.. basta daw ba malinaw sa contract, pay slips na ibinayad mo sa kasambahay at kasambahay is authorized to remit to SSS....

look out na ng kasambahay kung totoong remit nya to SSS or not... malinaw ay covered ka with documentary proof na di mo pinagkait sa kasambahay yung benepisyo na dapat ay ibigay sa kanya ayon sa batas...

[111prez]

on the issue of all in.. or some document to say / prove na binigay mo na sa kasambahay, at binayaan mo na sya ang pumila para magbayad, etc... as per interview in the past (I think DOLE Sec Baldoz ata yun).. puwede.. basta daw ba malinaw sa contract, pay slips na ibinayad mo sa kasambahay at kasambahay is authorized to remit to SSS....

look out na ng kasambahay kung totoong remit nya to SSS or not... malinaw ay covered ka with documentary proof na di mo pinagkait sa kasambahay yung benepisyo na dapat ay ibigay sa kanya ayon sa batas...

Kung ganito ang interpretasyon ng DOLE sa batas, dapat nilagay na ito sa IRR para malinaw

Ang problema nitong mga statement ng taga gobyerno ay pag nagiging kaso na, hindi mo magagamit ang mga statement na ito bilang depensa o ebidensya

Yung mga statement na yan pampulitika at pang pabango lang.

[Syuryuken]

tataas na naman daw ang contribution ng mga member yung naglalakihang suweldo at bunos ng mga empleyado ng SSS at Philhealth sa atin ipinapasa. kabuwisist talagang gobyerno natin

[1D4LV]

tataas na naman daw ang contribution ng mga member yung naglalakihang suweldo at bunos ng mga empleyado ng SSS at Philhealth sa atin ipinapasa. kabuwisist talagang gobyerno natin

seen this at the news last night.... by 2035, funds of SSS will be exhausted.
so they have to find a way on how to replenish this.

which means;

a) fully implement the kasambahay law on a retroactive basis.
b) increase contributions
c) extend the contribution period for seniors.

[wowiesy]

Kung ganito ang interpretasyon ng DOLE sa batas, dapat nilagay na ito sa IRR para malinaw

Ang problema nitong mga statement ng taga gobyerno ay pag nagiging kaso na, hindi mo magagamit ang mga statement na ito bilang depensa o ebidensya

Yung mga statement na yan pampulitika at pang pabango lang.

E dyan naman magaling yung admin na ito... Public relations... Nung nagsimyla pa lang diba.. 3 agad spokesman... Madami kasi taga media tumulong sa campaign kaya marami pinagkautangan ng loob...


Sa baha at trapik.. Press conference din lang ang katapat....

And to think yung media din ganoon... Kung gaano sila ka kontra kay GMA noon, ngayon, sobra sila mabait sa admin.. Wala na yung check and balance... Yung mga commentaries sa gobyerno ni GMA noon... Tuloy tuloy ang tira iniiwasan lang mag mura on air at baka ma penalty ng KBP... Pero ngayon... Lagi may kadugtong na "with due respect..."

[wowiesy]

seen this at the news last night.... by 2035, funds of SSS will be exhausted.
so they have to find a way on how to replenish this.

which means;

a) fully implement the kasambahay law on a retroactive basis.
b) increase contributions
c) extend the contribution period for seniors.

Which yun na nga ang ginagawa nila... Sa mga mag 65 na nagdagdag sila requirements so yung ibang di makasunod, di na makakuha ng benefits... Ang objective na lang nila is to prolong the asset...

[CVT]

Looks like they may extend the retirement age,- to delay claim to the retirement fund and at the same time, keep it afloat....

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