SC ruling on Neri shows a Palace-controlled court: sources

[ringostarr]

hindi naman binoboto sa eleksyon ang mga posisyon sa judiciary branch unlike sa legislative and the top executive branch

appointed doesnt mean sya lang pumili, syempre me proseso yan like yun mga ibang justices nagbotohan na sila. talagang ignorante lang ang iba sa'tin to think na pag inappoint always tuta

kahit naman sa private sector, appointing is just the same as promoting a position. boss din naman ang nag-promote.

[badsekktor]

appointed doesnt mean sya lang pumili, syempre me proseso yan like yun mga ibang justices nagbotohan na sila. talagang ignorante lang ang iba sa'tin to think na pag inappoint always tuta

yes, meron proseso but it is always the signature of the president that confirms the appointee.... so no signature means you dont get the job.

kahit naman sa private sector, appointing is just the same as promoting a position. boss din naman ang nag-promote.

that is exactly the point. you call the person responsible for your promotion, your boss. same thing with jobs, credentials are being reviewed and assessed by hr but the final say is with the boss so you owe your boss big time!

what i am trying to say is that it is a fact of reality that you kiss the ass or return favors for those who become instruments for your successes in life.

[Horsepower]

Kaya dapat kaibiganin natin ang USA ulit.

We might need their Atomic bombs again in the future when this island grabbing doesn't stop and starts war.

[ringostarr]

that is exactly the point. you call the person responsible for your promotion, your boss. same thing with jobs, credentials are being reviewed and assessed by hr but the final say is with the boss so you owe your boss big time!

what i am trying to say is that it is a fact of reality that you kiss the ass or return favors for those who become instruments for your successes in life.

so that's why we really cant do away with corruption. it's as basic as necessity of life. for instance, mangyayari din sayo yan if you get promoted or you promote someone pag older ka na. it's the same as pag may binigyan ka, gusto mo i-acknowledge naman binigay sa'yo or pag binigyan ka gusto mo tanawin utang na loob yun

kaya hindi dapat masyado pag-awayin sarili natin bec. of the issue of corruption.

if one will look at in another point of view, kung na-ngongorupt naman ang isang official, sa Pilipinas din naman napupunta. kasi sa pagkaalam ko iniinvest din nila na-corrupt nila. so parang money changed hands lang talaga.

we should concentrate more on how to beat our envious neighbors bec. once money flows in, there will be enough for everbody.

[shadow]

if one will look at in another point of view, kung na-ngongorupt naman ang isang official, sa Pilipinas din naman napupunta. kasi sa pagkaalam ko iniinvest din nila na-corrupt nila. so parang money changed hands lang talaga.

here we go again OB sa paniwala mo na ok lang ang corruptions :faint:

[shadow]

ito tingin ko magandang formula, para maalis na ang utang na loob sa mga politicians ng mga justices...tutal co equal govt naman sila sa executive eh so dapat sila na bahala kung sino dapat ma-appoint sa ranks nila...

Bill seeks to clip President’s power to appoint justices
By Jess Diaz
Saturday, March 29, 2008 Opposition Rep. Roilo Golez of Parañaque proposed yesterday that the Supreme Court and the rest of the judiciary be insulated from Malacañang and politicians to make justices and judges truly independent.
He made the proposal in the wake of widespread criticism that the tribunal’s ruling favoring Commission on Higher Education Chairman Romulo Neri’s invocation of executive privilege in the Senate on issues involving the controversial national broadband network deal continues to attract.
Nine members of the court, including newly appointed Justice Arturo Brion, the former labor secretary who did not hear oral arguments on the case, voted to uphold Neri’s decision not to answer questions about his conversation with President Arroyo on the deal.
Six members led by Chief Justice Reynato Puno voted to compel Neri to answer the senators’ questions about such conversation.
Golez said he would file a resolution to amend two sections of Article VIII (Judiciary) of the Constitution to remove the power to appoint justices and judges of lower courts from the President.
He said such power should be transferred to the Supreme Court sitting en banc.
He wants to keep the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) which screens nominees to vacancies in the judiciary.
However, he suggested that JBC members be appointed by the SC, sitting en banc, instead of by the President.
He is also proposing that the secretary of justice and a representative of Congress be removed as ex-officio JBC members.
“This will make the Supreme Court and the rest of the judiciary self-perpetuating and truly independent. The selection and appointment process will be devoid of any presidential and political interference. The process, being en banc, will be collegial and balanced, not dictated by a single person,” Golez stressed.
He recommended a possible disqualification for nominees to the judiciary: No person can be appointed justice or judge if he has held a presidential appointment, Cabinet or sub-Cabinet, or has held any elective office, from mayor to president.
“This will prevent any speculation that there is a bias or prejudgment on the part of members of the judiciary, such as what is happening now with respect to members of the Supreme Court who served the President in a senior capacity or who held political positions.
Brion is the most recent appointee who served in President Arroyo’s Cabinet. He was appointed just days before the high court voted on the executive privilege issue. He obstinately refused to inhibit himself from voting despite repeated appeals from various sectors.
Another justice, Eduardo Nachura, served as Mrs. Arroyo’s chief presidential legal counsel. He is also a former congressman. He voted with the majority on Neri’s case.
Golez also urged the Supreme Court to prescribe a code of conduct for its members and justices and judges of lower courts.
He said justices and judges should have a “modicum of social aloofness to prevent too much fraternizing with members of society, each of whom is a potential respondent, appellant or officer appearing in their courts.”
Appeals for inhibition on the Neri case were addressed not only to Brion but to Justice Presbitero Velasco as well. Velasco was described as a “golfing buddy” of petitioner Neri, though he admitted playing with him at the exclusive Wack Wack Golf Club in Mandaluyong City only once or twice.
Inhibition appeals were also addressed to Justice Renato Corona, another former presidential legal counsel, whose wife sits in the boards of two state corporations and is a staunch supporter of Mrs. Arroyo who signed a manifesto of support published in national newspapers.
Golez’s proposed amendments to the Constitution will be contained in a resolution in compliance with the rules of the House of Representatives, under which such proposals can be introduced and will go through the normal process of legislation.
If the House approves the proposals, they will then be sent to the Senate.
Approved amendments will then be submitted to the people in a plebiscite.

[Monseratto]

Guess who has to sign that bill for it to become law. Golez is doing it for the publicity. Since him being in the opposition, he knows there is little chance of it getting passed.

Brion is the most recent appointee who served in President Arroyo’s Cabinet. He was appointed just days before the high court voted on the executive privilege issue. He obstinately refused to inhibit himself from voting despite repeated appeals from various sectors.
Another justice, Eduardo Nachura, served as Mrs. Arroyo’s chief presidential legal counsel. He is also a former congressman. He voted with the majority on Neri’s case.
Appeals for inhibition on the Neri case were addressed not only to Brion but to Justice Presbitero Velasco as well. Velasco was described as a “golfing buddy” of petitioner Neri, though he admitted playing with him at the exclusive Wack Wack Golf Club in Mandaluyong City only once or twice.
Inhibition appeals were also addressed to Justice Renato Corona, another former presidential legal counsel, whose wife sits in the boards of two state corporations and is a staunch supporter of Mrs. Arroyo who signed a manifesto of support published in national newspapers.

I guess that news quote is from the bias Network, matyaga maghanap ng dumi. ABS-CBN and the opposition is resorting to trial by publicity. Kulang na lang, everyone who were appointed by Gloria should inhibit themselves just because they were picked by her.

[badsekktor]

so that's why we really cant do away with corruption. it's as basic as necessity of life. for instance, mangyayari din sayo yan if you get promoted or you promote someone pag older ka na. it's the same as pag may binigyan ka, gusto mo i-acknowledge naman binigay sa'yo or pag binigyan ka gusto mo tanawin utang na loob yun

kaya hindi dapat masyado pag-awayin sarili natin bec. of the issue of corruption.

if one will look at in another point of view, kung na-ngongorupt naman ang isang official, sa Pilipinas din naman napupunta. kasi sa pagkaalam ko iniinvest din nila na-corrupt nila. so parang money changed hands lang talaga.

we should concentrate more on how to beat our envious neighbors bec. once money flows in, there will be enough for everbody.

well.... that is where dignity and principles come in....... the said positions cannot just be filled by anybody. The positions they held demands respect and reverence from others so we should also expect that the person that would occupy the position is deserving to have that respect.

holding a government position means serving the people and not vise-versa.... gone are the days of monarchical governance where the people serve those who are in the position...... well maybe not here in our country.........

[Monseratto]

Kailangan natin ata mga robot to run goverment. Para mawala ang human frailties which makes man suceptible to greed. Pero baka matulad naman tayo sa Matrix...