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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I'm sorry, but FM doesn't deserve burial honors.

    Sure, you could say he was a soldier, congressman, senator and ex-President, but 20 years of Martial Law abuses killed whatever positive legacy he had.

    What is all this? Bongbong and the rest of his minions in media are now clamoring to deodorize Marcos by way of a State Funeral? This is absolutely nuts!
    Agree.

    And Marcos a World War 2 hero? Pakdatsyet! Gawa-gawa lang niya yun.

    Mass murderer? Pwede. Ilang libong tao pa ang pinapatay ng yumaong unggoy na yun to retain his power.

    Andres de Saya? Oo. :D

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Si VP Binay pa, nakuw, KSP din yan kasi mataas pangarap!
    Maitim na pangarap sir! :D

    Lintek 'tong si Binay. Noong panahon ng Martial Law eh kontrang-kontra kay Macoy ito tapos ngayon eh hinahalikan ang patay na pwet ni Macoy para pumogi sa publico.

    Kung sabagay, lahat ng naging kasali dati sa "Anti-Marcos" eh mas naging mas masahol pa kay Ferdy. Si Jovito Salonga lang ang talagang Distinguish Gentlemen sa kanila. Yung iba? Well pinagkakakitaan na lang ang pulitika *ehem* yung mga dynasty dyan *ehem*

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by asb75 View Post
    basta ako sa umpisa pa lang hindi ko gusto maging president si Pnoy, expected ko na yan. kaya nga binoto ko nun si Erap eh.
    Huwwaattt!! :D

    Nakuha ka naman sa Famas Acting ni Erap na tatapusin ang mga hindi natapos na para sa mahirap. ;)

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    ^^ yes it is..

    but the point is hindi nya nagustuhan ung recommendation at kaya nya binawi
    pag hindi pumabor sa kanya babawiin nya...

    so the question is what kind of leadership he is
    Ganito lang yan,

    Humingi ako sa ibang tao kung ano ang recommendation nila. Eh hindi ko nagustuhan yung mga sinabi nila. At ako lang ang pwedeng magdecide. So yung salungat ng recommendation niya ang pinili ko.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    ^ tama.

    pero ano pa yung point na binigay nya kay binay ang responsibility na pag aralan yung issue. sana sinabi nya na lang kaagad na hinde pwede.
    Sir eh hindi niya nagustuhan yung recommendation ni Manong Binay eh. Tsaka inatasan lang siya ni Loverboy Panot na magisip kung ano ang gagawin sa patay. Hindi naman sinabing "ikaw na magdecision dyan at ikaw na bahala".

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    #26
    On a related note, i saw this posted on FB and various sites: (my apologies for the length)

    BONGBONG: can we tok?
    NOYNOY: hu u?
    BONGBONG: kapal mo! u deleted my number na?
    NOYNOY: kupal ka pala eh. sino k b?
    BONGBONG: gago! senator bongbong here.
    NOYNOY: *** ka! y wud i have your #?

    BONGBONG: di ka ba talaga pwedeng makausap nang matino?
    NOYNOY: di tayo close, you know that!
    BONGBONG: ulol! we have a lot of things in common, tandaan mo ‘yan.
    NOYNOY: magkaiba tayo.

    BONGBONG: ‘di ah! pangalan pa lang natin, pareho na! bong-bong! noy-noy!
    NOYNOY: tanga! anong pareho dun!? magkaiba ‘yon. ferdinand ka, benigno ako.
    BONGBONG: see? kapangalan pa natin ang ating mga ama.
    NOYNOY: bobo! junior ka, the third ako. malaki ang difference no’n.

    BONGBONG: pati sa mga kapatid natin, may similarity tayo. ‘yong panganay naming si ate IMEE: saksakan nang ‘tigas ng ulo noong dalaga. kapag nagustuhan ang lalaki, nagre-rebelde.
    NOYNOY: sira! hindi ganun ang panganay naming si ate ballsy.
    BONGBONG: ha-ha-ha! sinong may sabing si ballsy ang tinutukoy ko?
    NOYNOY: huwag mong idamay si viel, tahimik ‘yon.
    BONGBONG: sige na nga. regards na lang kay kris. joooke!
    NOYNOY: namemersonal ka na!
    BONGBONG: ikaw ang nagsimula!

    NOYNOY: fault ko pa? sino bang sumisira sa diwa ng edsa? singapore your face! I’ve got two words for you: “martial law!”
    BONGBONG: ah gano’n? babalikan na naman natin ang nakaraan? do not provoke me!
    NOYNOY: really? here’s another: “marcos cronies!”
    BONGBONG: pakyu ka! “kamag-anak incorporated!”

    NOYNOY: “plaza miranda bombing!”
    BONGBONG: “mendiola massacre!” hoy! wala kang alam sa history! si joma sison ang nambomba sa plaza miranda! ‘yon ang nasa libro ni ka jovy salonga!
    NOYNOY: ah basta!
    BONGBONG: ha-ha-ha naubusan ka na ng bala!

    NOYNOY: noong panahon ng tatay mo, walang freedom of the press!
    BONGBONG: noong panahon ng nanay mo, walang kuryente!

    NOYNOY: marcos billions sa europa!
    BONGBONG: whatever! hacienda luisita!
    NOYNOY: engot! in five years, ipapamahagi na namin ‘yon!
    BONGBONG: i don’t believe you! gawin mo muna!

    NOYNOY: wala ka na sa Bagong Lipunan. wake up!
    BONGBONG: wala ka na sa poder ng nanay mo, grow up!

    NOYNOY: teka nga! bakit ka ba text nang text?
    BONGBONG: eh bakit reply ka nang reply?
    NOYNOY: ano ba talagang gusto mo?
    BONGBONG: simple lang, state funeral and an honorable burial para sa aking tatay sa Libingan ng mga Bayani.

    NOYNOY: that’s not for me to decide.
    BONGBONG: i’m not surprised.
    NOYNOY: what do you mean?
    BONGBONG: wushuuu! aminin mo, hindi naman talaga ikaw ang nagde-decide sa government kundi ang mga taong nakapaligid sa ‘yo eh!

    NOYNOY: that’s democracy.
    BONGBONG: that’s weakness.

    NOYNOY: hindi ako diktador!
    BONGBONG: oops, i’m sorry mr. symbolic president.
    NOYNOY: sumusobra ka na! ang pagiging sobra ang dahilan kung bakit kayo pinalayas ng people power sa edsa. you’re way out of line!

    BONGBONG: out of line??? no! we’re so back! isa sa senado, isa sa kamara at isang gobernadora.
    NOYNOY: WALANG STATE BURIAL!
    BONGBONG: ha-ha-ha, now you’re talking! fine!

    NOYNOY: tapusin na natin ‘tong usapang ‘to. stop txting me!
    BONGBONG: agad? i’m just warming up.
    NOYNOY: maghanap ka ng kausap mo.
    BONGBONG: may ipapakilala akong chick. 25 lang. maputi, mahilig sa jazz music.
    NOYNOY: huwag mo akong daanin sa babae. sa dami ng problema ng bansa these days, women are the least of my concerns.
    BONGBONG: talaga? ok. fine. bye!
    NOYNOY: sandali lang!!! chinita ba?
    Silence.
    (Note: Bongbong Marcos didn’t reply. An aide said, “Na-check operator services po si Sir.”)
    With regard to the issue on burying Macoy with honors, I never really paid attention to how Noynoy handled it and why there is so much issue since i know in the end, he would not allow that since it is quite personal to him. In a way, one reason why I see that he's sheltered (as people would point out, mama's boy) is because he was raised by his mom as Macoy did jail Ninoy and ___________ (fill in the blanks nalang) killed Ninoy.

    My personal stand is Macoy doesn't deserve it as this would add to the injustice given to the many victims of Martial Law, and to the current systems we have today that resulted from that. My observation nowadays is that a lot who did not see (or know about) EDSA or Martial Law, seem to be commenting that Macoy was actually good after all. Hell no. Smart and capable? Yes no doubt. Too bad he didn't use it the way it could have been used.

    Totoo ba yung story na Bongbong is not the real Bongbong?

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    #27
    now I really believed na Filipinos has the memory of goldfish. 3 seconds long...

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Totoo ba yung story na Bongbong is not the real Bongbong?
    during the 70's there's this picture that circulated comparing the height of the 2 bongbongs, the real bongbong ata is 2 or 3 inches taller than the fake bongbong, what happened to the picture, hindi ko na alam malamang sinunog na nila

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    ^^ yes it is..

    but the point is hindi nya nagustuhan ung recommendation at kaya nya binawi
    pag hindi pumabor sa kanya babawiin nya...

    so the question is what kind of leadership he is
    He asked for a recommendation.

    A recommendation isn't final.

    Besides... how would people react if PNoy recommended burying Marcos with full state honors?

    This is the man who pillaged the Philippines, instituted twenty years of martial law, and, most likely, had PNoy's father executed in cold blood as he got off the airplane.

    What kind of man would you be if you bent to his son's demands for full state honors?

    This is one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't things." Yung mali lang ni Noynoy, he went to see what other people thought instead of doing the right thing in the first place and denying the request. But still, a recommendation is just that, a recommendation.

    What I think is the bigger issue here... what the f*** is Binay smoking proposing that Marcos be given full honors? Hello?

    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Well, from what I know, the President, as Chief Executive, has the final decision on whatever matter his advisers recommend so...yes, he is not automatically bound by what Binay had recommended for the Marcoses.

    I guess what comes as a legitimate question is whether or not PNoy can be a statesman. This requires that he transcend his biases and prejudices as a person and as someone who is the son of the person who bore the brunt of Martial Law. Siguro nakalimutan niya na he is President of this country. And, by the way, this country is inhabited not only by his allies, but by his critics and enemies as well.
    I think this line of thinking is why he passed it to Binay... probably so people would not say that he did not consider the request and shot it down straight away due to personal bias.

    I think he was expecting Binay to also say "no". Got a big surprise there...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    eh ano pa yung inatasan nya si nognog?
    di sana hindi na lang......

    ganun din pala, ire-reject kung hindi pabor sa kanya.
    baka di inatasan? baka nagprisinta. aba malaking boto ang solid north sa susnod na presl election. yun ang nagpataob ka mar, heheheh.

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