Phil. Education: Mandatory Pre-School, 5 years in College

**Gen. Miting** · December 24th, 2008 03:36 PM

students should specialize starting at 13. by that time, nagkakaroon ng identity crisis ang youngster. why bec. the school and the parents are enforcing a system na ayaw na tanggapin ng bata. and that's why nagrebelde at nagbibilyar na lang hehehe

**pup2** · December 24th, 2008 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gen. Miting

students should specialize starting at 13. by that time, nagkakaroon ng identity crisis ang youngster. why bec. the school and the parents are enforcing a system na ayaw na tanggapin ng bata. and that's why nagrebelde at nagbibilyar na lang hehehe

Hey, some of us just like billiards and beer! Teenagers will ALWAYS rebel, depende lang kung gaano ka grabe, that's due to hormones.

On a more serious note though, I'm wondering why people are objecting to the requirement of a pre-school level. Kaya naglagay ng isa dun ay para ma maximize ang learning curve which is higher at the younger end of the age spectrum. Besides, di ba sa private system halos required na nga ang pre-school?

Kung may issue man sa additional level, it is one of funds talaga -- not just for the gov't but for the food and transpo of the students. Few people may realize it but baon, transpo, supplies, etc. are actually costlier than tuition for most people. Kung hindi ma address ito, either hindi matuloy itong proposal or lilipat lang ang dropout rate from grade 2 to grade 1.

Our government should wake up and realize we've just gone from one of the lesser SEA nations to one of the top AFRICAN ones. Maybe we'll get something done after.

**number001** · December 25th, 2008 12:03 AM

The added years will not help if quality (of the education) will not improve from its present state.

If they really wanted more years, then it should be done in high school and not in college. Some courses in college already require a 5 yrs course work (ie. engineering, etc..).

Extend the high school years by 1 year for those with 7th grade and extend for 2 years for schools without any 7th grade. The extra years could be used as pre-college preparatory.

**empy** · December 25th, 2008 01:08 AM

mandatory preschool makes sense. start forming and educating young minds while they at their most impressionable. also get kids used to the discipline of schoolwork and enjoy schooling/learning.

a 5th year of college doesn't make sense. the people whose standard of living most needs to improve are not in college anyway. so you're just making the timeframe longer for your current highly skilled labor to get into the market and become productive. what's the economic opportunity cost of all your college grads being unproductive for an extra year?

unless of course the 5th year is value-added (like in engineering degrees where the technical skills just need another year to be developed)...

**architect** · December 25th, 2008 09:33 AM

Just where will the government get the money to build the required additional classrooms, not to mention the procurement of additional equipment and hiring of additional teachers?

As it is, a lot of public high schools already have 2 or 3 shifts (implying shortened class hours for the students), inadequate facilities, and insufficiently-trained teachers.

If the current issues are not resolved before they implement the proposed changes, the inadequacies of the system will only be magnified.

**scharnhorst** · December 26th, 2008 08:51 PM

There's nothing wrong with the duration. It's the quality that's lacking.

Porke't ginagawa ng ibang bansa e gagayahin na natin. So typical of our government.

**FWC** · December 27th, 2008 03:50 AM

Sana nakikinig ang goverment sa mga Tsikot forumers.

But it's true guys. It's not the length of study that counts, it is the quality and relevance of the study that does.

The academe, the employers, and the goverment have formed a tripartite panel to evaluate this. And the employers have concluded that, as most of you pointed out, it is not the length of the study that counts but the quality of the study and its relevance to industry. And yet, the academe and goverment insist on a longer period of study. Eh, sino ba ang nag-i-employ ng graduates, sila ba? Well, they both stand to gain from it so...

Anyway, just consider what's happening around us. We have a high rate of unemployment and underemployment. And yet, look at the want ads at the papers and the internet. Ang daming vacancies. And employers are having a hard time attracting and retaining good talent. This only indicates a mismatch between the unemployed and the vacancies. But it has nothing to do against the length of education. Many of the courses in top caliber schools have only four years and yet their graduates are most sought after. Isn't this an indication that quality is the key?

Hay naku, pumasok na naman vested interests...

**empy** · December 28th, 2008 01:03 AM

how about incentives for kids to stay in school/attend college, instead of this plan?

**FWC** · December 28th, 2008 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by empy

how about incentives for kids to stay in school/attend college, instead of this plan?

Mahirap din. You have to consider that a lot of drop outs did so because: 1) they can't afford to go to school, and 2) they have to help their family earn a living.

In fact, marami sa kanila diyan would have loved to continue studying but had to stop because they were forced by circumstances.

Dapat nga, the government should provide more opportunities for free education. Kaya lang kung saan-saan napupunta yung pera. Just imagine, yung mga "working visits" kuno ng mga politicians natin, which coincidentally takes place every time na may laban si Pacquiao, cost the country over P340 Million since the Arroyo administration started. Ang dami na sanang napa-aral sa perang yun!

**scharnhorst** · December 28th, 2008 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by FWC

Mahirap din. You have to consider that a lot of drop outs did so because: 1) they can't afford to go to school, and 2) they have to help their family earn a living.

In fact, marami sa kanila diyan would have loved to continue studying but had to stop because they were forced by circumstances.

Dapat nga, the government should provide more opportunities for free education. Kaya lang kung saan-saan napupunta yung pera. Just imagine, yung mga "working visits" kuno ng mga politicians natin, which coincidentally takes place every time na may laban si Pacquiao, cost the country over P340 Million since the Arroyo administration started. Ang dami na sanang napa-aral sa perang yun!

Haha. To think its the same administration that jacked up the matriculation fee of UP from 300 pesos per unit to 1000 (or 1500 if you're "rich"), bringing up the previously 5k+ tuition to a whopping 20k+++, AND with a clause that causes it to rise every year.

All the while the "premier state university" keeps losing ground to its privately owned rivals. Soon pati presyo parehas na!

Ganyan talaga sa pinas... mas importante ang bakasyon ng iilang politiko kaysa sa kalusugan at edukasyon ng 80 million na pinoy