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    Months ago:
    Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

    Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.
    Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad's regime: U.N. official - Washington Times

    But of course, the US government will ignore them.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    According to Isreali Intel:

    In the face of statements by senior US officials that the Obama administration had crossed the Rubicon on military intervention in Syria, President Barack Obama declared early Thursday, Aug. 29, that he had not yet made a decision on whether to order a military strike against Syria. Although Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced that US armed forces were “ready to go,” Obama said he was still examining options with his security team.
    The US president added that he had no doubt that chemical weapons were used by the Syrian regime, not the rebels, saying that for violating international norms and human decency, Assad “should be held accountable.”

    At the same time, the White House suddenly appeared Wednesday night to be engaging in maneuvers for buying time and holding up military action against Syria, after the armies of the Middle East and half of Europe were already standing ready after completing massive war preparations.
    One such maneuver was a leak from White House sources about a delay in releasing to America and the world the promised evidence of Assad’s culpability in the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people. It was postponed because “the report was not yet ready.”

    Another were grumbles from the president’s circle that President Obama had found himself jammed in an awkward timeline generated by his foreign travel schedule – he is due to take off next Wednesday, Sept. 4, for Sweden on his way to the G-20 summit in St. Petersburg of Sep. 5-6.
    This left the optimal dates for his decision to go through with the attack as Friday night, early Saturday, Aug. 31 or after Labor Day, which falls on Sept. 2.

    Although Obama appeared still to be standing by that decision, debkafile’s Washington and Moscow sources disclose he has applied the brakes on the momentum for its implemention to buy time for US Secretary of State John Kerry to wind up secret negotiations with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and strike a deal: The US would soften its military action against the Assad regime and his army and reduce it to a token blow, after which the American and Russian presidents would announce the convening of Geneva-2 to hammer out a solution of the Syrian crisis and end the civil war.

    The Kerry-Lavrov back channel has not yet achieved results and so, Thursday, the fate of the US strike on Syria was still highly fluid and its timeline changeable.
    Obama says no decision yet on strike on Syria. DEBKA: He stalls for deal with Putin on softened strike
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    from above:

    Although Obama appeared still to be standing by that decision, debkafile’s Washington and Moscow sources disclose he has applied the brakes on the momentum for its implemention to buy time for US Secretary of State John Kerry to wind up secret negotiations with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and strike a deal: The US would soften its military action against the Assad regime and his army and reduce it to a token blow, after which the American and Russian presidents would announce the convening of Geneva-2 to hammer out a solution of the Syrian crisis and end the civil war.
    like a said on page 1

    Syria is more complicated than Libya

    too many players...

    Iran is pro-Assad

    Russia is pro-Assad

    there are pro-Assad groups in Turkey which is a NATO member

    then there's the pro-US Gulf states who are against Assad

    then there's Hamas, Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and other groups... each with their own interests

    magulo

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    Latest report: Rebels admit they carried out the attack. Sarin canisters were supplied by Saudi Arabia. Wahhabist movement apparently. Moreover, Saudi prince threatens Putin by sending Chechen terrorists to Sochi winter olympics... Hmmm...

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    Obama kasi nagbitaw ng salita (he said using chemical weapons is crossing the red line)

    ayan ipit siya

    he has to do something or lose credibility

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    NATO is out of the equation na, They'll not take part if the strike will push through

    NATO will not take part in a Syria strike — alliance head | News | GMA News Online

    NATO will not take part in a Syria strike — alliance head
    August 31, 2013 12:52am

    COPENHAGEN - The suspected use of chemical weapons in Syria demands an international response but NATO will not take part, alliance head Anders Fogh Rasmussen told Danish media on Friday.

    "I see no NATO role in an international reaction to the (Syrian) regime," Rasmussen told reporters in the Danish town of Vejle, daily Politiken reported.

    He said the alleged use of chemical weapons was "a terrifying and horrible act. Chemical attacks are a clear violation of international standards -- a crime that can't be ignored."

    "It demands an international response, so it doesn't happen again," Rasmussen said.

    The NATO secretary general has in the past insisted on the need for a political solution to the Syrian conflict.

    UN inspectors have visited the scene of the August 21 suspected gas attack near the Syrian capital.

    The opposition says more than 1,300 people died when toxic gases were unleashed on Eastern Ghouta and Moadamiyet al-Sham. Doctors Without Borders said 355 people died of "neurotoxic" symptoms in the affected areas.

    Rasmussen said he firmly believed the Syrian regime was behind the attack.

    "I have no doubt that the regime carried out a chemical attack," he said, adding: "When you look at who has the chemical stocks and the means to use them in an attack, you have to say that it is the regime."

    "There's not much to suggest that the opposition would be in a position to carry out such an attack." — Agence France-Presse

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    Ang gulo-gulo talaga nila. Lahat kasi tigasin.

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    the US will go alone

    in the next few days

    a very limited strike

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    The West is tired of being fooled by their politicians that war is a worthwhile effort... Public support is razor thin.

    Express Online had exclusively revealed that only eight per cent of Brits were backing immediate missile strikes on Syria.

    The poll results, which came before MPs historic Commons debate on military action, showed 80 per cent of people are against David Cameron launching an immediate attack, while 12 per cent are undecided.

    Our poll showed a significant 41 per cent of people are against action by Britain in any circumstances, while 39 per cent would only agree with a launch if the UN confirms chemical weapons have been used by the Syrian regime and then sanctions a strike.

    The Conservative leader ruled out joining America in military action after the vote while Labour backbenchers called for him to 'resign'.

    Speaking in the Commons, Mr Cameron said: "I strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons.

    "But I also believe in respecting the will of this House of Commons.

    "It is clear to me that the British Parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action. I get that and the Government will act accordingly."

    The result will dismay those in Washington looking for a coalition against Assad and raise serious questions over the Prime Minister's leadership.

    Mr Cameron had been arguing for intervention amid a growing chorus of MPs urging caution following the lessons of the Iraq war 10 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The West is tired of being fooled by their politicians that war is a worthwhile effort... Public support is razor thin.
    They remember Iraq and their non existent WMDs.

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