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    interestingly, Article VI Section 25 of the constitution.

    (5) No law shall be passed authorizing any transfer of appropriations; however, the President, the President of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the heads of Constitutional Commissions may, by law, be authorized to augment any item in the general appropriations law for their respective offices from savings in other items of their respective appropriations.

    so much for Raisa Robles' "discovery"
    Last edited by A121; July 15th, 2014 at 05:46 AM.

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    Abad's DBM accounts only almost half of the P171 billion in so-called "savings" in cancelled GMA projects...

    Where the DAP money went, according to DBM

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    ABNOY really showed his autistic side living on his own world para sabihin na ang unanimous decision ng SC ay mali or showing of his dictatorial tendency.

    Mader facker ABNOY, makukulong ka rin sa 2016:hang:

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    interestingly, Article VI Section 25 of the constitution.

    (5) No law shall be passed authorizing any transfer of appropriations; however, the President, the President of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the heads of Constitutional Commissions may, by law, be authorized to augment any item in the general appropriations law for their respective offices from savings in other items of their respective appropriations.

    so much for Raisa Robles' "discovery"
    Di-Law according to BS Aquino... Cory's Constitution vs Cory's Administrative Order

    Ang epektibong paggugol ng pondo ay hindi lang po dikta ng aking konsensya, malinaw din pong nakasaad sa iba’t ibang probisyon ng isang batas na ang pangalan ay Administrative Code of 1987, at tinalakay ang paggamit ng savings. Halimbawa, basahin natin ngayon (nandiyan sa inyong mga screen) ang Book VI, Chapter 5, Section 39 ng 1987 Administrative Code of the Philippines:

    “—Except as otherwise provided in the General Appropriations Act, any savings in the regular appropriations authorized in the General Appropriations Act for programs and projects of any department, office or agency, may, with the approval of the President, be used to cover a deficit in any other item of the regular appropriations…”
    Ang mensahe ko po sa Korte Suprema: Ayaw nating umabot pa sa puntong magbabanggaan ang dalawang magkapantay na sangay ng gobyerno, kung saan kailangan pang mamagitan ng ikatlong sangay ng gobyerno.Mahirap pong maintindihan ang desisyon ninyo. Mayroon din kasi kayong ginawa dati, na sinubukan ninyong gawin ulit, at may nagsasabi pang mas matindi ito base sa desisyong inilabas ninyo kamakailan lang. Nagtiwala kami na tama ang ginagawa ninyo alinsunod sa konsepto o prinsipyo ng “presumption of regularity,” lalo pa’t kayoang dapat na mas madunong sa batas.Ngayong kami naman ang may ipinatupad—na kayo na rin ang nasabing nakabuti sa mamamayan—bakit mali na ngayon ang aming ginawa?

    Naniniwala naman akong karamihan sa inyo, tulad namin, ay naghahangad ng kabutihan para sa taumbayan. Sa mga kagalang-galang na Mahistrado ng Korte Suprema: Tulungan n’yo naman kaming tulungan ang ating mga kababayan. Balikan niyo sana ang ginawa ninyong desisyon nang may pagsasaalang-alang sa mga inilatag kong paliwanag ngayong gabi. Umaasa po ang sambayanan sa makatwiran ninyong pagtugon. Umaasa akong kapag nakita ninyo ang mga isusumite naming argumento ukol sa batas at sa ekonomiya, magkakaisa tayo, at titibay ang kapasidad ng buong pamahalaan na isulong ang interes ng sambayanan.
    - See more at: http://madlangbayan.ph/presidents-na....J6U2bPah.dpuf
    Last edited by Monseratto; July 15th, 2014 at 11:29 AM.

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    OT: Nakikita talaga hindi dahil sa maging rubber stamp ni Pnoy ang SC kundi para hindi maipamigay ang Hacienda Luisita.

    BTT: Tama ang sabi nila tungkol kay Pnoy, arogante Ipagpipilitan ba naman tama siya compared sa unanimous decision ng Justices, tsk. Kung in good-faith talaga saan nagamit yang napakalaking pera (DAP), ipa-fast track niya yung pang-audit, saan projects nagamit yang DAP? Baka naman ang totoong nangyari, naglabas si PNoy at Abad ng DAP initially pang-bribe sa mga Senators to convict Corona... at nagbigay na rin sila sa totoong projects para hindi naman halata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    interestingly, Article VI Section 25 of the constitution.

    (5) No law shall be passed authorizing any transfer of appropriations; however, the President, the President of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the heads of Constitutional Commissions may, by law, be authorized to augment any item in the general appropriations law for their respective offices from savings in other items of their respective appropriations.

    so much for Raisa Robles' "discovery"
    The law passed by Cory, even if declared unconstitutional, paves the way for a defense. If there's a precedent, even if DAP is declared unconstitutional... that would then take effect after the SC decision, not before.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Good Intentions trumps The Constitution.

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    The DAP is unconstitutional if you only look at the 1987 Constitution and Chapter 5, Section 38 of the Administrative Code of 1987 – which is what the justices did.
    The DAP becomes constitutional if you look at the 1987 Constitution AND Sections 38 and 49 of Chapter 5 of the Administrative Code of 1987. Because Section 38 gives the President the power to create savings and Section 49 gives the President the power to pool those savings into a fund like DAP.
    You need both Section 38 and Section 49, Chapter 5 of the Administrative Code to make DAP LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL.
    Without Section 49, DAP becomes illegal and unconstitutional.
    This is where it gets dicey...

    Isn't this what they actually did with the DAP funds? To stimulate economic activities?

    Here's section 38

    Section 38. Suspension of Expenditure of Appropriations. – Except as otherwise provided in the General Appropriations Act and whenever in his judgment the public interest so requires, the President, upon notice to the head of office concerned, is authorized to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted for any agency, or any other expenditure authorized in the General Appropriations Act, except for personal services appropriations used for permanent officials and employees.


    This is section 49

    SECTION 49. Authority to Use Savings for Certain Purposes. — Savings in the appropriations provided in the General Appropriations Act may be used for the settlement of the following obligations incurred during a current fiscal year or previous fiscal years as may be approved by the Secretary in accordance with rules and procedures as may be approved by the President:
    (9) Priority activities that will promote the economic well-being of the nation, including food production, agrarian reform, energy development, disaster relief, and rehabilitation.
    (10) Repair, improvement and renovation of government buildings and infrastructure and other capital assets damaged by natural calamities;

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    #retzing
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    This is where it gets dicey...

    Isn't this what they actually did with the DAP funds? To stimulate economic activities?

    Here's section 38





    This is section 49




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    #retzing
    I was of the mind that the President was kind of nuts for questioning a unanimous SC decision... but if what Raissa says is true, and if Saguisag agrees with her... then they do have a legitimate case for overturning the decision.

    And I agree... that small insert actually grants way too much power to the President.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    I was of the mind that the President was kind of nuts for questioning a unanimous SC decision... but if what Raissa says is true, and if Saguisag agrees with her... then they do have a legitimate case for overturning the decision.

    And I agree... that small insert actually grants way too much power to the President.
    diba yan exactly ginawa nila yun section 38, they stopped all expenditures sa lahat ng department to plug daw yun mga loopholes kaya ang bagal ng PPP programs nila yun first 2 years ng term then after ginawa nila yun DAP to fastracked yun economic activities at least thats what I remember Abad's explanation before about DAP...

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