Massive scale corruption exposed/unfolding

**wowiesy** · October 2nd, 2013 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by uls

the executive branch used those funds to buy or strengthen alliances in the legislative branch

that's how things work

pera pera lang lahat

they just have to find a legal basis.. a defensible legal basis... just to be safe...

sakaling bagong issue o new creation nila at in doubt ang legality.. it will end up in Supreme Court (kung may maglakas loob na mag raise nito)... we all know how Supreme Court is running the pace on these cases.... by the time na mag labas sila ng ruling... baka senador na si Bimby...

analogy ko... noong dati tinitira nila si Corona... even the Supreme Court as an institution... na tipong pinakikialaman nila yung Financial Independence ng Supreme Court and Judiciary... lumabas dati na hindi pinupuno yung mga vacant judge positions.. para maka save.. and then the savings realigned as additional benefits ng judiciary....

parang same lang...

savings from executive agencies... na realign... for their own purpose.. which is to "strengthen" legislative liaisons... para sure ball ang mga agenda nila...

**wowiesy** · October 2nd, 2013 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

Diba meron silang cite na article na meron control ang president Kung sana gagamitin ang savings? DAP is just savings eh..

So using savings is illegal? Eh maliit lang na part napunta sa mga legislators, majority of the savings (DAP) went to the agencies.

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savings itself is legal.. walang illegal doon.. i think ang question here.. is does the Executive have the power to realign savings to other disbursements without letting Congress know of it beforehand?

in the past.. malinaw na kapag di napasa ang budget... previous years budget stand... so kung di napasa ang 2012 budget.. 2011 budget allocations will apply for 2012... or until the 2012 budget is passed... malinaw yan.. and during the last few years of Arroyo administration.. lagi nga reenacted ang previous year budget.. di natatapos ang budget on time...

pero sa Aquino admin.. ang aga matapos ang budget.. trina trabaho talaga.. yun pala may DAP hehe..

sa kabilang banda... ang di pa malinaw (at least sa akin.. ewan ko sa inyo)... kung pwede ba talaga... na EXECUTIVE.. without any enabling law (whether specific law for that specific purpose.. or general law)... can executive realign the savings and use it for a different purpose?

malinaw na savings in executive go back to treasury.. pero by end of year ano mangyayari sa mga savings na yun.. di ba it makes sense na isama sa next year budget? then sa next year budget.. naka line up mga allocations... so dapat.. pati yung savings from previous years... may provisional allocation... possible by order of priority depending on the amount of savings...

i think yun ang point ni Joker... kailangan may specific law listing and providing for the allocation of a fixed amount (which is the savings) to particular projects , etc... sa nangyari with DAP... okay may savings... pero without informing congress or the public officially... na may savings... nilabas agad nila yung pera para panggastos.. well in the traditional sense... all the money that government should spend should be programmed.. kaya nga may national budget eh... so dapat.. savings should also be budgeted and allocated properly kung saan mapupunta..

which in this case sa DAP.. it seems... hindi naka program BEFOREHAND yung pagpupuntahan ng savings... ang nangyari.. since they had funds to disburse... nag allocate na lang agad... hindi dumaan sa traditional process... which is through congress...

at least... yan ang analysis ko sa issue....

**ClaNker** · October 2nd, 2013 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by greenlyt

effective yun strategy nila d ba mga sirs?

dito pa lang sa forum na eto nagulo na yun focus ng mga tao eh

Effective talaga and if walang nagawa ang Malacañang para ma ayos ang problema abay kasalanan parin ni PNoy yan. Tahimik na nga issue kina tanda, ***y, at pogi eh.

Para lang mga bugok, tulad ng squa-squa at aktibista. :hysterical:

**ClaNker** · October 2nd, 2013 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by nelany

Iba yung issue ng PDAP at nung DAP.

Pina gulo lang kamo. Mas malaki ang issue ng PDAP, now since may tama talaga sa ulo mag isip ang mga pinoy kung ano yung latest eh yun na. And what's the latest? DAP.

Now going back to the case of Joker... Sabi nya bribe daw, ngayon yung nahuli na sya pala ang nag request eh illegal naman daw.

**oliver1013** · October 2nd, 2013 01:24 PM

Now every pinoy wants the head of pnoy...he gets impeached or resigns..binay rises to the occasion..everybody gets a win win deal with him for the sake of unity..we forget the issue..

Nice one.

**Retz** · October 2nd, 2013 01:38 PM

nagkakasakit na mga honorable senators natin. nagkaka 'selective' mindset na.

**greenlyt** · October 2nd, 2013 02:29 PM

Aquino, other gov?t execs in plunder raps | Inquirer News

mag prosper kaya eto?
patay na! baka si binay ang mag take over if ever

**uls** · October 2nd, 2013 02:47 PM

Palace defends release of DAP fund | Inquirer News

MANILA, Philippines—“This administration does not and will not use public funds entrusted to us by the Filipino people to bribe or coerce any individual or group for any given purpose.”

Budget Secretary Florencio Abad issued this statement on Tuesday amid a spate of criticism that a little-known facility, known as the Disbursement Acceleration Program (DAP), had been used to bribe senators to convict Chief Justice Renato Corona in May last year.

so why didnt the executive branch just spend the money thru govt agencies like DPWH, DepEd, DSWD, DOH etc?

“Designed and implemented as a spending acceleration mechanism, the DAP was launched by the Aquino administration in October 2011 to support fast-moving projects that would help the government catch up with its expenditure targets,” said Abad, who is attending a governance conference in Burma (Myanmar).

again, why didnt the exec branch just spend the money thru govt agencies like DPWH, DepEd, DSWD, DOH etc? why give the money to senators? are they better implementors of stimulus?

“The Aquino administration has consistently and faithfully used DAP according to its design, which is to maximize the utilization of national government savings and further enhance the country’s economic expansion,” Abad said.

tama

economic expansion thru govt spending

like infrastructure projects which can be done by DPWH

so why give the money to senators?

**CVT** · October 2nd, 2013 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by greenlyt

Aquino, other gov?t execs in plunder raps | Inquirer News

mag prosper kaya eto?
patay na! baka si binay ang mag take over if ever

O huwag kalimutan sina seksi, pogi at tanda...ha?

Dapat sila ang nasa top billing!

21.2K:tomato:

**Retz** · October 2nd, 2013 05:11 PM

PNoy challenges critics to impeach him

MANILA – President Benigno Aquino III reiterated that the release of funds under the disbursement acceleration program (DAP) is legal and challenged critics to impeach him over its alleged misuse.

"Isulong nila kung palagay nilang nasa tama sila. Pero kakabasa ko lang sa Constitution, merong authority sa savings to put to other uses basta nandoon sa ating budget," Aquino told reporters when asked for his reaction to reported statements of former Senator Joker Arroyo and Senator Miriam Santiago that DAP is illegal.

Aquino also denied using the DAP as a means to bribe or reward senators for voting to convict former Chief Justice Renato Corona.

He pointed out that Corona was convicted in May 2012 while funds under the DAP were not released until October.

"So meron bang bribe after the fact?" he said.

Aquino said that the DAP was meant to spur public spending amid observations that the government was not spending much.

He also took exception to his being called as "pork barrel king" by critics.

He said that his administration has been careful in using public funds adding that the budget has been enacted on time to minimize room for corruption.

He said that he has abolished priority development assistance fund (PDAF) system and has been using the Malampaya funds strictly for energy-related projects.

Aquino said,"Tinanggal ko na naman 'yung kakayahan ko na mamudmod, 'di ba, binawasan ko. Walang namilit sa akin 'yan. Walang nagturo sa akin 'yan. Walang nag-insist 'di ba. Pero ginawa ko. So marami na akong ginawa e. Tapos tatawagin nila akong pork barrel king, medyo sa totoo lang, executive ang... gagastos ng national budget, napaka-ingat natin kung papaano gastusin dahil kailangan nating mapagtanggol at anytime kung sino man ang kritiko na tama ang paggugol ng kaban ng bayan."

Source: abscbn

kaya malakas ang loob ni pnoy kasi kontrolado niya ang congress at senate.