Leni Robredo, The Vice President

[tarzegetakizerd]

Again, this seeming collective ignorance of the very recent history.


"A VP is what the President wants it to be. To be used effectively or to be resigned into oblivion."

Leni was given a cabinet portfolio. Twice.

Is this idea too complex for some here?

Can you enlighten us then, about what happened in these scenarios you are vaguely describing here.

I vaguely remember her being informed to desist all cabinet activities, for which she had to voluntarily resign.

I also remember the ICAD blunder. That was embarassing, but not for Leni

[ruelle41]

What about

"He may not speak and dress "presidentially" according to your own standards, but it did not matter to the 16 million who voted him to office. What he does have is political will to run the country independent of the traditional influences from the local elite and foreign interests."

are you hoping to be a "comedy"?

If you would kindly expound, I'd appreciate it much.

If you actually think that Duterte is free from local elite and foreign influence, then I have a bridge to sell you

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[Ry_Tower]

Again, this seeming collective ignorance of the very recent history.


"A VP is what the President wants it to be. To be used effectively or to be resigned into oblivion."

Leni was given a cabinet portfolio. Twice.

Is this idea too complex for some here?

Hehe, it's your ignorance that is mesmerizing.

She waa given portfolio but that was swept under the rug unceremoniously. Hehe

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[kartog]

If you actually think that Duterte is free from local elite and foreign influence, then I have a bridge to sell you

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So tell me, why are the traditional elite and foreign interests so bent on undermining and destabilizing his administration even before he could officially assume office, if they actually have this influence on him that you speak of?

Why do they bother with so much unsuccessful trouble, four years along, and still at it?

Not much of a bridge to sell there, have you champ?

Can you enlighten us then, about what happened in these scenarios you are vaguely describing here.

I vaguely remember her being informed to desist all cabinet activities, for which she had to voluntarily resign.

I also remember the ICAD blunder. That was embarassing, but not for Leni

Geez, the least you can do is pretend to exert some effort.

You are asking me exactly about something that I just posted? Un-effing-believable

Not only that, but you want me to repeat myself, because you can only "vaguely remember"? What is this, some "let's tire this guy out with our stupidity" tactic that you are desperately hoping would work?

Hehe, it's your ignorance that is mesmerizing.

She waa given portfolio but that was swept under the rug unceremoniously. Hehe

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So it is confirmed. This is an actual tactic employed here.


*Sigh* So, I'll be reposting what I just posted. If some of the words need further explanation, or events prove difficult to remember please have the decency to read up on the web yourself. After all, I took the time and trouble of typing the post up.


And I thought all along you guys pride yourself with being the "wokes" and the "well-informed" side of the political divide. What an effin disappointment this is turning out to be.

Putting the scoring aside, I feel I need to address the statement about Duterte not liking Leni because she is part of the opposition.

If mindlessly repeating this to yourselves like a mantra helps you face the daunting world and go on with your regular lives, then please do tell me so I can stop right here.

Otherwise, allow me to disabuse you of this ridiculous notion which apparently despite spending some time in a thread on Robredo, you all genuinely believe to be, for lack of a better word, true.

Have all of you collectively forgot the fact that Duterte from the start included Leni in his cabinet? She was from the opposition at the time, right?

Why do you think Duterte started not liking her? If he did not like her for being "a part of the opposition" then why bother at all including her in his cabinet as head of the HUDCC, a party to the most sensitive plans and conversations between the President and his most trusted advisers?

Surely you all know what triggered her being booted out of the Cabinet meetings, don't you?


So why are you all twisting facts? Duterte does not like her because she betrayed his confidence and continuously undermined him, having the gall to attend Cabinet meetings face to face with him and then the next minute holding press conferences attacking the very government she was actually a part of, not to mention actually letting privy conversations she was a witness to slip out of her mouth to her partymates, all in the name of partisan politics.

That's the reason Duterte does not like her. Not because she is "a part of the opposition".


Will you repeating that apparently unchallenged fabrication here, make it true? Well if you all actually did not know the truth before, you know now.

[ruelle41]

So tell me, why are the traditional elite and foreign interests so bent on undermining and destabilizing his administration even before he could officially assume office, if they actually have this influence on him that you speak of?

Why do they bother with so much unsuccessful trouble, four years along, and still at it?

Not much of a bridge to sell there, have you champ?

Why does it matter if it's traditional or not? Bending over any elite and foreign interest is not "political will".

[kartog]

Why does it matter if it's traditional or not? Bending over any elite and foreign interest is not "political will".

So are you conceding Duterte's political will is independent of traditional influences from local elite and foreign interests?

It is important to make a distinction between what I actually said and what you tried to make it appear I said.



Did you feel the need to put words in my mouth to create your argument defending Leni here, on this thread? Did the bridge fall down before you could sell it?

[bxr monkey]

Tingin ko, lahat ng national positions may backing ng political elite or power brokers. Tapos pagalingan sa product packaging at marketing message. Iba ibang kampo ng mga elite, kanya kanyang pawn.

[dr. d]

tingin ko naman,
all leaders are influenced by something.
otherwise, brownian motion could not have conceivably brought these leaders up to where they are now.

[tarzegetakizerd]

Geez, the least you can do is pretend to exert some effort.

You are asking me exactly about something that I just posted? Un-effing-believable

Apologies for missing out on those. The facts were lost in the sea of ramblings, I'm not that well trained in digesting unstructured paragraphs. Your vocabulary is good, though.

it is common for people to ask for tl:drs to because it is, too wordy to read.

BTT: research tells me that the reason she was ordered to desist from attending cabinet meetings is “Utos 'yan ni Pangulong Duterte, and the reason is there are irreconcilable differences between VP Robredo and the administration.”

[tarzegetakizerd]

"let's tire this guy out with our stupidity" tactic that you are desperately hoping would work?

Funnily enough, the people on the other side say that about your posts, as well.

[Yatta]

Man this thread just got pure comedy in just a week.

[tarzegetakizerd]

Man this thread just got pure comedy in just a week.

Well it takes only one person to turn something into comedy. A comedian

[kartog]

Apologies for missing out on those. The facts were lost in the sea of ramblings, I'm not that well trained in digesting unstructured paragraphs. Your vocabulary is good, though.

it is common for people to ask for tl:drs to because it is, too wordy to read.

BTT: research tells me that the reason she was ordered to desist from attending cabinet meetings is “Utos 'yan ni Pangulong Duterte, and the reason is there are irreconcilable differences between VP Robredo and the administration.”

Ohh my bad, so you were totally blank before on the details of wRongbredo's two unceremonious exits from the cabinet then? And you were only trying to get your first taste of info on the issue from me, hence the previous request?

Well, I must say it is a good start on your journey to being well-informed that you humbly recognize I post facts in my "sea of ramblings", though I protest that latter description would be more appropriate on, say, those still to be well-informed.

Apology accepted, by the way...


On the actual issue at hand, I would have expected a more thorough Google search than that considering I have already posted Duterte's reasons--the irreconcilable differences as your, ah, exhaustive research called them.

Funnily enough, the people on the other side say that about your posts, as well.

Well it takes only one person to turn something into comedy. A comedian

Hihihi you're so funny

So all of you on this thread are...actually dead serious about the praises you have been heaping on wRongbredo all along? What, did I interrupt the solemn blind-worship and stern brainwashing sessions here?


If I did, then I am issuing my serious and heartfelt apologies...

[kartog]

Man this thread just got pure comedy in just a week.

What do you mean "in just a week"? This Leni meme has been on this thread almost a year!

The last man standing...

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Don't tell me you find her joke corny








PS
Baka nagsisimula pa din....nagsisimula pa din mag-yadda yadda yadda hihihi

[Yatta]

What do you mean "in just a week"? This Leni meme has been on this thread almost a year!



Don't tell me you find her joke corny








PS
Baka nagsisimula pa din....nagsisimula pa din mag-yadda yadda yadda hihihi

Compared to almost 5 years of jokes, curses and lies? Brrrt brrrt!

[kartog]

Hihihi so the way to justify and blindly defend Leni is to divert the discussion about her, on a thread about her, to someone else?



wRongbredo's empty threats and false promises, ironically posterized in an unintentional meme, are acceptable and should simply be ignored and swept under the rug because...


*insert diversionary tactic here*?







Now who's being the comedian...

[Yatta]

so nagisisimula pa lang daw siya at hindi pala doon matatapos iyon..

anyare madam ??? press release lang pala yan ulit?

Nilabas na yung report niya last year pa. Well I guess its too much to ask some people to read or maybe ask if they know how to read.

[kartog]

Nilabas na yung report niya last year pa. Well I guess its too much to ask some people to read or maybe ask if they know how to read.

So what happened, then?


Did it, as she so emphatically proclaimed, not end there?



What did she actually mean by, "nag uumpisa pa lang ako", that dud er, "report"?



Was that report the oomph behind "kung sa tingin nila, matatapos ito dito...hindi nila ako kilala?"


Let me quote Sec Panelo, he seemed to hit just the right chuckle-level here..

“When she was threatening this report, she implied na mayroon siyang mga nadiskubre na iregularidad na akala mo’y bomba na sasabog. It’s a dud. Wala naman siyang sinabi doon na bago na hindi tinututukan ng mga ahensiya ng involved sa laban sa droga [When she was threatening this report, she implied that she discovered irregularities that you thought were like bombs about to go off. It’s a dud. There is nothing new to what she said that are not being addressed by the agencies involved in the anti-drug effort],” he said during a press conference in Malacanang.

Natapos ba dito er, doon? Nakilala na ba talaga siya?







So, just to be clear......do you consider that a fulfillment of her threats and promises then?



Hihihi you really are a comedian, no?

[kisshmet]

ang yayabang naman ng mga yan


btw whatever happened to the old PDutz thread ?

Birds of the same feather flock together

Nakikita ni kartog ang nakikita ni kagalingan

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[kartog]

Birds of the same feather flock together

Nakikita ni kartog ang nakikita ni kagalingan

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And who would you be flocking with then?


.....at ano ba yung nakikita ko, na nakikita ni kagalingan, sa tingin mo?