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    Quote Originally Posted by dondonposadas View Post
    Nahihirapan kasi ang prosecutor kay chavez kasi puro lahat ng technicalities kabisado di makaporma mga prosecutors.
    chavez?
    o cuevas.

    anyways.....madaming palusot yang si tatang.
    dapat at the start pa lang alam na nya yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondonposadas View Post
    Nahihirapan kasi ang prosecutor kay chavez kasi puro lahat ng technicalities kabisado di makaporma mga prosecutors.
    Sori i stand corrected. cuevas. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by explorer View Post
    is this true? any lawyer here? got this from facebook...
    Republic Act 910 provides for the retirement benefits of justices of the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court.

    If you look at Sec. 1 closely, it refers to justices who retire from the service due to age or disability, and with a minimum number of years of service rendered as a judge or justice. Those who violate it will likely be disqualified from receiving their pensions.

    As for Justice Cuevas, he was appointed by President Ferdinand Marcos to the SC in 1984. He resigned from the SC upon the ascension to the Presidency of Corazon C. Aquino in 1986. He's not a retiree.

    I guess that should settle the matter.
    Last edited by Altis6453; January 20th, 2012 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453

    Republic Act 910 provides for the retirement benefits of justices of the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court.

    If you look at Sec. 1 closely, it refers to justices who retire from the service due to age or disability, and with a minimum number of years of service rendered as a judge or justice. Those who violate it will likely be disqualified from receiving their pensions.

    As for Justice Cuevas, he resigned from the SC upon the ascension to the Presidency of Corazon C. Aquino. He's not a retiree. I guess that should settle the matter.
    But he said it himself that he is receiving pension, sabi nga niya eh kung gusto suspend muna yun pension while representing coronayo

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But he said it himself that he is receiving pension, sabi nga niya eh kung gusto suspend muna yun pension while representing coronayo
    He never said if it was a pension being received from the GSIS (for retirees in the public sector) or the SSS (for private sector retirees). It could be the latter as I would imagine he returned to private practice upon leaving the SC, except for a brief time he was Secretary of Justice under Erap's cabinet.
    Last edited by Altis6453; January 20th, 2012 at 01:19 PM.

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    yun nakita din

    Article 2 of impeachment complaint on Corona's SALN
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    Posted at 01/18/2012 6:44 PM | Updated as of 01/18/2012 6:44 PM
    II. RESPONDENT COMMITTED CULPABLE VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION AND/OR BETRAYED THE PUBLIC TRUST WHEN HE FAILED TO DISCLOSE TO THE PUBLIC HIS STATEMENT OF ASSETS, LIABILITIES, AND NET WORTH AS REQUIRED UNDERSEC. 17, ART. XI OF THE 1987 CONSTITUTION.

    2.1. It is provided for in Art. XI, Section 17 of the 1987 Constitution that “a public officer or employee shall, upon assumption of office and as often thereafter as may be required by law, submit a declaration under oath of his assets, liabilities, and net worth. In the case of the President, the Vice-President, the Members of the Cabinet, and other constitutional offices, and officers of the armed forces with general or flag rank, the declaration shall be disclosed to the public in the manner provided by law. ”

    2.2. Respondent failed to disclose to the public his statement of assets, liabilities, and net worth as required by the Constitution.

    2.3. It is also reported that some of the properties of Respondent are not included in his declaration of his assets, liabilities, and net worth, in violation of the anti-graft and corrupt practices act.

    2.4. Respondent is likewise suspected and accused of having accumulated ill-gotten wealth, acquiring assets of high values and keeping bank accounts with huge deposits. It has been reported that Respondent has, among others, a 300-sq. meter apartment in a posh Mega World Property development at the Fort in Taguig. Has he reported this, as he is constitutionally-required under Art. XI, Sec. 17 of the Constitution in his Statement of Assets and Liabilities and Net Worth (SALN)? Is this acquisition sustained and duly supported by his income as a public official? Since his assumption as Associate and subsequently, Chief Justice, has he complied with this duty of public disclosure?



    ung 2.1 and 2.2 ano pa ba nilalaban ng prosecution? kung titignan natin nag comply naman si CJ dyan


    ung 2.3 di ba ito ung tinatanong eh included namna sa SALN nya ung condo

    ung 2.4 pati parking lot as what Cuevas pointing yesterday eh sinama + ung mga properties ng anak nya sinasama sya eh to think ang pinag uusapan dito ung SALN lang nya , so pde rin bang sabihin na illgotten wealth ung properties ng anak nya? and also ano ba dapat declare sa SALN ung price na nabili mo or ung price ng zonal value or ung current price? which is which
    Last edited by jansky; January 20th, 2012 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explorer View Post
    is this true? any lawyer here? got this from facebook...
    dati na siyang nasa defense sa impeachment ni erap noon di ba?
    eh wala namang nanagyari, na-question din siya noon ng ganyan.

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    yun clerk of court dapat i raise ng prosecution ng perjury dahil nag sinugaling under oath, para makulong

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    hinde pala effective papogi at friendliness ni cuevas...nabwibwisit na mga Senator sa delaying tactic niya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    dati na siyang nasa defense sa impeachment ni erap noon di ba?
    eh wala namang nanagyari, na-question din siya noon ng ganyan.
    Ito ang sagot ni Cuevas dyan. FYI.

    Cuevas said Republic Act 910, which covers retirement pensions of justices of the Supreme Court and the Court of Appeals, only covers criminal or civil cases and not the Corona impeachment trial.

    "Ito ba criminal case ito? Sui generis (one of a kind) eh. Lalong hindi civil case," he told radio DZMM.

    RA 910 prohibits any retired justice receiving government pension from appearing as counsel before any court in any civil case wherein the government is the adverse party, or in any criminal case wherein a government official or employee is accused of an offense committed in relation to his office.

    Cuevas said the same issue was raised during the trial of former President Joseph Estrada.

    "Ni-raise na iyan nung nag-appear ako kay Erap Estrada. They were disqualifying me," he said.

    "Even if that is correct, all I have to do is refuse receiving my pension," Cuevas added. "You disqualify from receiving. Kung hindi ko tanggapin, hindi rin mag-aapply ang prohibition."


    Source: abs-cbn news

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    Impeachment court resumes today *2PM. I see no problem using tagalog as a medium inside the impeachment court. Of course, Legal terms with no tagalog equivalent shall be in english.

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    #12
    Paulsot nila diyan impeachment is neither a civil or criminal case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Paulsot nila diyan impeachment is neither a civil or criminal case...
    palusot ba? o yung ang totoo?

    kasi pag pino-point out ng defense yung technicalities, sasabihin hindi naman daw criminal court yun kundi impeachment court.

    tsk tsk tsk. whatever serves their purpose.

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    ano ba laman ng Article 2?
    Article 2 claims Corona failed to disclose statement of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN).

    - kung titignan natin di ba dpat drop na ang article 2? since nailabas naman na ang SALN

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    Quote Originally Posted by jansky
    ano ba laman ng Article 2?
    Article 2 claims Corona failed to disclose statement of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN).

    - kung titignan natin di ba dpat drop na ang article 2? since nailabas naman na ang SALN
    Nope! Yan ang palusot, yun essence ng "disclose" eh hinde nailabas per se but kung tama ba at totoo yun sinulat niya doon sa SALN. At least that's what I understood about the disclose word
    Last edited by shadow; January 20th, 2012 at 01:14 PM.

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    300sqm BELLAGIO Penthouse bought 2009 is not mentioned in Corona's SALN. He claims he is paying amortization for it, but there is a Deed of Absolute sale.

    This will pin him down.

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    Saka ano ba sabi ng defense hulugan daw pero meron ng deed of absolute sale?

    Sana ipatawag din megaworld.

    Utos na ni pnoy Kay Kim Henares check din books ng megaworld. Kung magkano ba talaga yun bellagio penthouse unit

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    Yan iniiwasan ni ombudsman guittierez madamay pamilya niya, pwede pa naman siya bumalik pag kakampi ulit niya Manalo next election eh.

    Eh kasi batangueno itong Si corona eh matapang daw siya...hehehe laban kung laban...

    He just open his family, extended family to scrutiny.

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    Anong masa sinasabi mo? Wala naman masa nun nagpauto kila GMA ah...

    Saka sino nagsabi ma acquit hinde na kailangan ng antics para mapatalsik yan Si corona.

    Walang kwenta usap usap pag tapos na proceedings Ang importanteng usap pag wala ng camera.

    Parang nangyari sa lower house nagulat na lang Si corona meron na siya impeachment at inakyat na Sa senate. Wala kwneta yun usap usap ni cuevas

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    #20
    Kailangan ng hacienda team 16 votes. Eh sa nangyayari ngayon paano makakakuha ng ganun.

    Yung joke joke ni dr beats wala talaga connection yun sa magiging boto. Ang point ko pleasing to the eyes. Hindi nagiging villain ang defense team sa manunuod.

    Na-counter nila yung gusto mangyari ni anak ng tupas na public outcry. Ngayon nga nagboomerang.... sa kanya nabubwisit mga tao. Siya nga mahilig magpa-media.

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