Iglesia ni Cristo Refused Shelter

[boybi]

Oo nga, di ba pwede honesty system? Ibig bang sabihin hindi honest ang flock nila kaya dapat may libro?

Ano kayang gagawin ng mga kapatid kung one of these days, may magpalabas ng video or any form of evidence na nilulustay ni manalo ang pera nila?

[stickers]

Oo nga, di ba pwede honesty system? Ibig bang sabihin hindi honest ang flock nila kaya dapat may libro?

Ano kayang gagawin ng mga kapatid kung one of these days, may magpalabas ng video or any form of evidence na nilulustay ni manalo ang pera nila?

Madami magsuicide gaya nung mga naloko sa pagadian.

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[ClaNker]

INC lang ba may ganyan na 10% system? Kung nag miembro pala ako ng INC ng yr 2000 e fixed lang ang donation ko based on my 2000 income Unless annually e nagre require sila ng ITR

In some countries pala in Europe they have "church tax". I think it is 1% lang ata. I am not sure of the figures but the amount is negligible.

Almost all christian based denomination implement tithing system, most of them only adheres to the 10% stipulated in the bible if kaya mo. Catholic Church follows the 10% tithe, its just that almost all catholics don't follow this. Barya-barya lang pag nag lagay sa basket, rinig mo ang kalansing eh.

INC on the other hand denies that they practice tithing. Eto ang catch, "God loves a cheerful giver" pair that with their multiple offering system and most likely lalampas ka sa 10% pag cheerful giver ka.

Kaya ang daming pera ni Manalo, tingnan mo na lang mga bahay sambahan nila over-engineered ang mga yan meaning walang problema sa pera sa pag papatayo nito.

[Mile2]

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[Mile2]

Sa mga bukang bibig ay 10% tithes kaihit ubusin nyon ang buhay nyo na panindigan na may tithes sa INC bahala kayo sa paniniwala nyo hehehe

mangarap na lang kayo at mag-pretend habang buhay

Pakita kayo ng doktrina ng INC na may 10% tithes na pinapasunod, sa pagsamba man o anong official publication ng INC para naman may sustansiya yan daldal nyo

[boybi]

Sa mga bukang bibig ay 10% tithes kaihit ubusin nyon ang buhay nyo na panindigan na may tithes sa INC bahala kayo sa paniniwala nyo hehehe

mangarap na lang kayo at mag-pretend habang buhay

Pakita kayo ng doktrina ng INC na may 10% tithes na pinapasunod, sa pagsamba man o anong official publication ng INC para naman may sustansiya yan daldal nyo

Kung hindi man 10%, aaminim mo ba na required kayong magbigay ng tithes?



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[Mile2]

Kung hindi man 10%, aaminim mo ba na required kayong magbigay ng tithes?



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Tanungin no si Suryuken hehehe lasing daw yung kausap niya


Minsan tinatanong ko sarili ko kung may sense ba ang mga tanong or talaga lang wala lang basta makapagtanong lang or they just playing dumb.

eto po meaning ng tithe.

OXFORD DICTIONARY

Definition of tithe in English
tithe
Syllabification: (tithe)
Pronunciation: /tīT͟H/
noun
one tenth of annual produce or earnings, formerly taken as a tax for the support of the church and clergy.

BOYBI may sense ba ang tanong mo? malamang sa alamang eh wala.

[boybi]

Tanungin no si Suryuken hehehe lasing daw yung kausap niya

Ikaw ang INC di ba? Sayo ko gusto malaman ang sagot.

Tinuturo din ba sa inyo na pag may tinatanong sa inyo e hwag ninyong sagutin ng diretso ang tanong?

[testament11]

Mile2, the question is straightforward. Sagutin mo rin naman ng deretso at hindi yun ililigaw mo. Yes or no lang naman yun sagot eh.

Boybi, eto ah, as per observation ko talaga dahil nakapagsamba na ko doon dati ng ilang beses. Yes, they give tithes. It is required. Bakit? Ano lang naman daw ang maliit na halaga na yan para sa simbahan. Ano lang naman daw na magbigay ka ng kaunting kayamanan mo sa Diyos. Reference nila, opkors the Bible, yun part tungkol sa tithes.

Mile2 is denying na nagbibigay sila. Bakit? You can give any amount, proportional sa kinikita mo. Mismong ministro nagsabi niyan. Kung ikaw bata ka pa, ok lang magbigay ka piso kasi wala ka naman kinikita. Pero pag ikaw ay money earner na, magbigay ka daw ng according sa kinikita mo.

I am not lying and this is my first hand experience.

Pag hindi yan ni-confirm ni Mile2, we dare you na itanong mo yan sa ministro ninyo. Pag di mo matanggap na ganyan patakaran sa inyo, eh tumiwalag ka na.

[jaggerx3]

Tithing sa Christian ay honesty system naman. Hindi na nila aalamin kung magkano kita mo.

Anyway, naalala ko kwento ng mekaniko namin. May sinervisan siya na repair. 5K daw singil niya lahat lahat. Tapos nung magbabayad nma 4,500 daw binigay. Kasi daw sabi ng cliente niya na INC yung 10% daw kasi required. Natawa na lang yung mekaniko namin, sabi niya kung tatawad naman daw bbigay niya rin naman, at d naman daw siya INC bakit daw kelangan bawasan ng 10% ung bayad sa kanya. Kamot ulo daw siya nun

[_Cathy_]

Tithing sa Christian ay honesty system naman. Hindi na nila aalamin kung magkano kita mo.

Anyway, naalala ko kwento ng mekaniko namin. May sinervisan siya na repair. 5K daw singil niya lahat lahat. Tapos nung magbabayad nma 4,500 daw binigay. Kasi daw sabi ng cliente niya na INC yung 10% daw kasi required. Natawa na lang yung mekaniko namin, sabi niya kung tatawad naman daw bbigay niya rin naman, at d naman daw siya INC bakit daw kelangan bawasan ng 10% ung bayad sa kanya. Kamot ulo daw siya nun

ha ha ha. Oo nga. Anong klaseng logic meron yang cliente ng mekaniko. ha ha ha. Hindi niya pwede i impose sa ibang tao yang 10% na yan. Choice niya sumali ng INC.

[jaggerx3]

ha ha ha. Oo nga. Anong klaseng logic meron yang cliente ng mekaniko. ha ha ha. Hindi niya pwede i impose sa ibang tao yang 10% na yan. Choice niya sumali ng INC.

Hehe nung time na yan di pa na attend sa church namin ung mekaniko namin. Inninvite ko pa lang siya. Napatanong tuloy kung sapilitan din daw ba sa amin.

[_Cathy_]

Nalito ako? INC ka?

[170kphlang]

ngayon nauunawaan ko na kung bakit madami ang inc sa gobyerno para kapag tinanong at kung aaksyom hindi sasagot at gagalaw ng diretso

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[jaggerx3]

Nalito ako? INC ka?

Mam hindi ako INC ah :D
Haha

[jaggerx3]

ngayon nauunawaan ko na kung bakit madami ang inc sa gobyerno para kapag tinanong at kung aaksyom hindi sasagot at gagalaw ng diretso

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Mag ssearch muna

[ClaNker]

Tithing sa Christian ay honesty system naman. Hindi na nila aalamin kung magkano kita mo.

Anyway, naalala ko kwento ng mekaniko namin. May sinervisan siya na repair. 5K daw singil niya lahat lahat. Tapos nung magbabayad nma 4,500 daw binigay. Kasi daw sabi ng cliente niya na INC yung 10% daw kasi required. Natawa na lang yung mekaniko namin, sabi niya kung tatawad naman daw bbigay niya rin naman, at d naman daw siya INC bakit daw kelangan bawasan ng 10% ung bayad sa kanya. Kamot ulo daw siya nun

*** yan parang Tax Collector ah, kaltas kita agad.

[jaggerx3]

*** yan parang Tax Collector ah, kaltas kita agad.

Talo pa si Zaccheus

[ClaNker]

Ikaw ang INC di ba? Sayo ko gusto malaman ang sagot.

Tinuturo din ba sa inyo na pag may tinatanong sa inyo e hwag ninyong sagutin ng diretso ang tanong?

Eto yung misconception daw nila.

The Truth:
THERE IS NO TRUTH to the allegation that Iglesia ni Cristo members are forced, compelled, coerced, forced or manipulated to give ten percent of their income to the Church. Contrary to what some people say or believe, the Church do not practice the giving of tithes. Iglesia ni Cristo members give their offerings on a voluntary basis, out of their faith and understanding of the biblical teaching concerning religious offerings. Thus Iglesia ni Cristo members faithfully follow God's commandment to His servants in the Christian Era that says:

Each of you should give as you have decided in your heart to give. You should not be sad when you give, and you should not give because you feel forced to give. God loves the person who gives happily. (II Cor. 9:7, New Century Version, emphasis ours)

Do not forget to do good to others, and share with them, because such sacrifices please God. (Heb. 13:16, NCV)

Knowing that the Lord is pleased by fulfilling the above commandments, members of Iglesia ni Cristo voluntarily and happily give their offerings. And it is through these voluntary offerings that the Church is able to finance the construction of beautiful and magnificent houses of worship where they, the members themselves, happily congregate to worship the Lord God Almighty in utmost solemnity. Many people may not believe nor may not come to understand that this happens in the Iglesia ni Cristo, simply because in their own religious organizations, many of which, cannot even put up a decent place of worship, and many still use public places such as cinemas, auditoriums, grandstands even after many years of giving tithes or offerings to their church leaders.

Now observe the highlighted part specially the last one where they belittle the other denomination.

Mag tataka ka dahil kung ang ibang denomination practices tithing yet they cannot build churches as "magnificent" as INC's "bahay sambahan" even if INC don't practice tithing. Where the heck INC's money comes from? From cheerful giving/love offering of their members?

Ang dami parin nilang pera kung voluntary lang naman ang love gift nila. What's their secret?

Q: What is the life of an Iglesia ni Cristo member?
A: The life of an Iglesia ni Cristo member revolves around these four obligations:
1. To attend without failure the Thursdays and Sundays worship services and the weekly committee prayer meetings;
2. To bear fruits, i.e., be instrumental in converting people to become Iglesia ni Cristo members for as long as one lives;
3) To obey the church administration always. The church administration is Erano G. Manalo and his ministers sent to lead the established congregations.
4) To contribute to the many offerings:
a) Thursdays and Sundays offerings;
b) Weekly local fund offerings;
c) Weekly EGM offerings;
d) Weekly deposits for the year end thanksgivings;
c) Monthly District offerings;
d) Monthly God's Message offerings;
e) Special Worship offerings;
f) July Anniversary offerings;
g) Additional cash to supplement the deposited
thanksgiving offerings.

[170kphlang]

ano yung sa letter c? egm? is it who i think it is. yung sa letter e - hibdi pa ba special ang bawat panahon na pagworship normal lang at meron pa talagang extra special? at sa letter g - so may lrocessing fee pa para maipadala kila manalo yung pera parang sa mo ey transfer?

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