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    #21
    [SIZE=3]Vote for GORDON. [/SIZE]
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    [SIZE=3]Actions are the proofs of Gordon's credibility. [/SIZE]
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    [SIZE=3]It is not popularity that counts! It is the integrity of one's accomplishments of achievements. Gordon is the best![/SIZE]
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    [SIZE=3]Vote for GORDON!
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    Cool lang, shadow. Your entitled to your opinion, and we can respect that. Let's just keep it clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    what I don't get was if surveys are not real then does he mean that his nephew and Perlas are the one who are actually leading and not Aquino and Villar?
    Who knows, it may be gibo?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    just bec he is not leading the survey it doesn't mean that it's rigged.
    Your right. It does not prove that the paid surveys are rigged. But there is the possibility that it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    bakit nun isa siya sa leading sa survey when he ran for Senator eh wala tayong narinig na complain from him against survey firms.
    Was he leading in the senatorial surveys in 2004? Do you happen to have a link for this? What I recall reading from a post somewhere, was that Sen Gordon was pegged at 19th place in the survey, but he ended up on the 5th spot come election time.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    yes he is a very good local executive no question about that but Subic and Olongapo is jus a speck compare to Phils., and so is Binay, Duterte and Osmena, heck even Bayani's wife received numerous awards for being an outstanding local executive. are they also cut to be President?
    Good to hear that you at least recognize his public service in Subic and Olongapo. At least there is this "speck" with results from Gordon, among other results. In comparison, example noynoy, not even a "speck" to talk about.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    the problem with him is he don't listen, arrogant he thinks he is God made for Filipinos, no difference from his running mate. I'm actually surprised that they run together. with both of their huge egos and attitude I don't know if they can stay together in one room for an hour. the reason why probably we don't see them together on sorties. you can't have two kings in one kingdom.

    another thing is he should stop blaming surveys, doesn't it occur to him that ayaw talaga ng tao sa kanya? huwag na niya ipasa yun sisi sa iba.
    You shared a lot items here. No real way to actually prove or disprove them, so leaving it as it is - your entitled opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    credentials puro credentials ang tagal tagal na niyang politiko hinde pa niya alam na you also need charisma, you need to connect to the voters. hinde pwedeng puro yabang. meron ako nabasa dito hinde ko lang maalala kung sino nag post naplapalstikan lang ako sa nagsasabi na si Gordon lang ang meron credentials and experience and siya lang ang qualified kung credentials and experience lang ang usapan eh di si ERAP lang ang qualified naging Mayor, Senator, VP and President. bakit hinde na lang si ERAP ang iboto?
    So would you not consider credentials among others, when choosing a candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    running for President is a lot different from running for Senator. dito parang one on one name mo or kalaban mo no ifs no buts, sa Senatorial election people are voting for a group (12) so mas malaki ang chance na manalo talaga siya.
    Agree. Clear math.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    saka nakakasawa na yun puro reklamo niya. putak ng putak lahat ng bagay mali dahil hinde advantageous sa kanya. lahat na blame na niya except himself.
    Quite ok. As a decided non-supporter, that should be an expected reaction from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    anybody can be a Mayor/Senator but not everybody can be President.
    well I would not say anybody can be a Mayor/Senator.


    Back to topic.

    It's good to see that the U.P. community seems well informed when choosing their candidates. It reaffirms the top pick of Gordon also, by tsikot.com community , which has access to more available information, beyond the hype and TV commercials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajOT View Post
    did Sen. Gordon, said this?
    then if he did, I agree with him about Survey(s)

    Surveys may be a basis on how the candidate is doing good in his campaign; let it not be a basis for us on whom we are to vote on this coming election. If you are to follow surveys alone, dont youre one of a dictated person; practice freedom and free will. Remember that as a citizen you have the RIGHT TO VOTE for the candidate whom you are pleased and a candidate whom you believe that will uplift your country.

    [SIZE=5]Go Gordon. [/SIZE]
    who said that people are voting bec of survey results? probably some but not here, not me. if I choose other candidate it's not bec I was sway by the survey.

    majority of the people already know who they will vote for even before the survey's result came out.

    I agree with you that everybody has the right to vote for whoever they want, whatever the reasons maybe, it's their rights anyhow then I hope the Gordon supporters will just stop self proclaiming themselves as the only "intellect voters" and branding other Presidential candidates supporters as the stupid voters. nobody has the monopoly of intelligence.

    I really don't want to join the discussion bec politics and religion are two topics that people will never change their stands, nobody will budge anyway and whatever we say here wala naman tayong magagawa talaga eh, I only have one vote as if it can change anything.

    but pag nakakabasa ako na pag Gordon supporters intelligent voters pag ibang candidate ang sinusupport eh mga bobo na, especially pag nag post yun isang fanatic na si mick2.

    lumalabas kasi Gordon supporters are belittling the intelligence of other candidate's supporters.
    Last edited by shadow; April 23rd, 2010 at 10:48 AM.

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    ^^^ Agree with you bro.... I've been asked many times these past few weeks on many occasions regarding who I will vote for President. I told them that Politics and Religion are both touchy subjects and there is no right nor wrong from where you're sitting/looking from. Change topic....

    9707:electricf:

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    [quote=Autobeat;1460971]Cool lang, shadow. Your entitled to your opinion, and we can respect that. Let's just keep it clean.[quote]

    I'm good, hinde ako galit ganyan lang talaga ako mag post. parang galit

    Who knows, it may be gibo?
    if the results are rigged then siguro dapat si Gibo nga ang lumalabas na number 1 sa results, since he is the administration's bet. he has all the influence in the admin to change the result kung talagang napepeke yan

    Your right. It does not prove that the paid surveys are rigged. But there is the possibility that it is.
    everything is possible, it probably can be rigged especially if it's a fly by night survey firms, but I'm only talking about the results of the two major survey firms SWS and pulse asia.

    Was he leading in the senatorial surveys in 2004? Do you happen to have a link for this? What I recall reading from a post somewhere, was that Sen Gordon was pegged at 19th place in the survey, but he ended up on the 5th spot come election time.
    I didn't say that he was leading, what I said was he was one of the leading candidate at that time. he never complained about the results, why complain now just be he is lagging?

    Good to hear that you at least recognize his public service in Subic and Olongapo. At least there is this "speck" with results from Gordon, among other results. In comparison, example noynoy, not even a "speck" to talk about.
    yun nga ang sinasabi ko there is a big difference in running the Philippines from running a small city and freeport. but I'm not taking anything away from him. yun nga even Binay has a good track record as a local executive will you vote for him as your VP? Duterte was also good, Hagedorn of Puerto Princesa, Osmena of Cebu..they are all good LOCAL executive but are they cut out to be President?

    You shared a lot items here. No real way to actually prove or disprove them, so leaving it as it is - your entitled opinion.
    yup it's my opinion and observation. I've never seen them go together on sorties I think yun first day lang when they rode yun transformer truck nila but other than that they go on their separate ways.

    So would you not consider credentials among others, when choosing a candidate?
    of course I will but there are also other factors that I'm considering. GMA has all the credentials and look what happened...


    Quite ok. As a decided non-supporter, that should be an expected reaction from you.
    but that's the truth he's the only one who keeps on complaining about everything, haven't you seen when he focus his tirade at the airport's PA system. really funny.

    ang lumalabas sa ginagawa niya ngayon is political gimmick. geez imaging suing the survey firms.

    well I would not say anybody can be a Mayor/Senator.
    yes, anybody can be a Mayor/Senator if you have the right last name or if you are married to the right person, Gordon's wife was once a Mayor of Olongapo right? what are her credentials? Fernando's wife in the incumbent Mayor of Marikina, credentials? Loi Estrada was once a Senator of the republic, credentials? Binay's wife was also once the Mayor of the business district.


    Back to topic.

    It's good to see that the U.P. community seems well informed when choosing their candidates. It reaffirms the top pick of Gordon also, by tsikot.com community , which has access to more available information, beyond the hype and TV commercials
    now we are praising to high heaven that the results of these two polls are accurate and all just bec Gordon came out on top? if supporters of Gordon doesn't believe the SWS and Pulse Asias's result then I think you should also disregard this mock poll results? 'coz according to your candidate surveys are not important.

    these mock elections result could have also been rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    *vinj: bro, i didn't get you. did you mean na yung surveys na sinabi niya na di ok eh yung mga di siya ang nangunguna? sori pre. i was just basing my earlier post to sa post ni brader shadow - no mention of specific surveys. anyhow, as i've said, i hope that is not the case. otherwise that's disappointing.
    Nah, i was just making a play on what i saw when i was buying Slurpee at 7-11 yesterday (ang init kasi!). They're selling cups with the Presidentiables which you can choose when you buy a drink and the Gordon cup was around number 3 if i recall correctly (storewide)... I just thought to myself that he might sue them too for possibly misleading Slurpee buyers.

    Back to regular programming. :popcorn:
    Last edited by vinj; April 23rd, 2010 at 01:37 PM.

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    #27
    Dapat si Gordon iboboto ko pero hindi ko nagustuhan ang platform nya at stand nya against reproductive health. Tapos ito pa, kumukuha ng media mileage sa pagrereklamo dahil sa mga surveys. That's why I think his ideals are still the same as compared to the other people running for president.

    Kaya kahit sinong iboto natin, it'll be the same old sh*t.

    I'd just go out and vote so no one would vote for me.

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    #28
    May ginawa siyang (Gordon) di maganda sa ANC News yesterday. He was being interviewed by Tony Velazques, live, via phone patch. He's being asked about the case they filed about SWS and Pulse Asia. Nung medyo mainit na yung Q&A between the 2, & while he was making his point, bigla ba namang bumitaw sa linya.......

    Parang tuloy napahiya si Tony at nag-apologize na lang on air.

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    as you said it is WHILE he was making his point. baka naman na disconnect lang talaga. wag malisyoso :d hahaha. at least siya sumasagot sa interviews at tapatan debates. unlike some na hindi sumisipot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruto View Post
    as you said it is WHILE he was making his point. baka naman na disconnect lang talaga. wag malisyoso :d hahaha. at least siya sumasagot sa interviews at tapatan debates. unlike some na hindi sumisipot.
    Hindi Sir, naputol......nakpagpaalm pa eh.

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