Digong, The President

[uls]

yes if i was moving up from commuter to car owner i'd buy a 2nd hand car but many 1st time car buyers don't think like me

many want a new car coz they see 2nd hand cars as problematic and of course nandun ung image na new car = successful

just look at tsikot forum dami mga 1st time car buyer nagtatanong which new car pipiliin

karapatan naman nila bumili ng bagong kotse so....

[bloowolf]

the govt can do it indirectly by making car ownership more expensive

any further than that they're gonna run into stronger resistance

As I read from threads here in tsikot, cars are more expensive in the Philippines, is that correct? Raising prices will not solve it, it will just kill the Auto industry. Dealers & banks will just try to come up with a way to entice people to buy new cars to keep the industry alive.


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[uls]

wild west kasi ang pinas

regulators are always playing catch up

kung sa umpisa palang meron criteria bago ka pwede bumili ng kotse...

like meron ka ba parking

o kaya may rule na pag dating sa certain age ang kotse dapat i-scrap na

sana di nangyari ang ganito

ngayon andami na kotse tsaka mag iisip ng solusyon ang goberyno

too late

whatever idea the govt comes up with will run into resistance

people will feel their rights are being violated

[bloowolf]

Isa pa yung magpapalit every 5 years. In European counties, they keep their cars till magsawa, no use for it or ma junk. I dunno, maybe pinoys mindset are really different. In Manila nga, I see sUVs bigger than the gates of their tiny houses. Meron pa ko nakita nakaparada sa gabi sa sidewalk ng Lacson Range Rover.


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[bloowolf]

wild west kasi ang pinas

regulators are always playing catch up

kung sa umpisa palang meron criteria bago ka pwede bumili ng kotse...

like meron ka ba parking

o kaya may rule na pag dating sa certain age ang kotse dapat i-scrap na

sana di nangyari ang ganito

ngayon andami na kotse tsaka mag iisip ng solusyon ang goberyno

too late

whatever idea the govt comes up with will run into resistance

people will feel their rights are being violated

Wala naman human rights sa Pilipinas. Its more of the law being penned should not affect the lawmaker.


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[uls]

As I read from threads here in tsikot, cars are more expensive in the Philippines, is that correct? Raising prices will not solve it, it will just kill the Auto industry. Dealers & banks will just try to come up with a way to entice people to buy new cars to keep the industry alive.


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The excise tax did hit car sales diba?

di ko alam latest figures pero after excise tax was implemented bumagsak ang car sales

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pero you cannot stop people from wanting a better live / higher standard of living

ung aspiration na gusto din nila magkaroon ng sariling sasakyan... that's a very powerful force

many people work hard / work smart to reach that car-ownership goal --- standing beside a car sales agent handing over the key of their new car

you see it all the time sa fb

[uls]

Wala naman human rights sa Pilipinas. Its more of the law being penned should not affect the lawmaker.


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kung gumawa ng batas ang gobyerno na you have to bid for the right to buy a car

like singapore

mangyayari mga pinakamapera lang ang pwede bumili ng kotse

wouldn't you feel the govt is violating your right to own a car?

[2lits17]

dapat may law na hanggang 25 years lang mga private cars, i think it will be fair enough na sa mga owners na magamit nila sasakyan nila ng 2 dekada mahigit. tapos mga PUV mas short kasi mas laspag mga yun.

at yun mga ex taxi please lang sana wag na gawin private mga eto. eto dapat pag bawalan.. kahuyin nalang at gawin spare parts. napakinabangan naman na ng mga owners yun mga taxi na yun. not unless 5 years or less lang yun taxi bago ni drop.

[uls]

wala na

kahit ano gawin nila batas, magkakaroon ng resistance

the genie is out of the bottle

nauna na ung kahit sino makakabili ng kotse

ngayon sobra dami na kotse tsaka mag iisip ng solusyon?

good luck

[Tha_Mann]

^^^

ban registration of older cars (like 20 years old?)

although I own a 20-year old car, I have to agree with this. but there are a lot of car enthusiast who still want to keep their classic cars maybe make the registration more expensive for 15+ year-old cars. or as the car gets older, it will be more expensive to register it.

[ninjababez]

increaseing the road tax doesnt really solve the volume of traffic problem; pera lang talaga

[bloowolf]

kung gumawa ng batas ang gobyerno na you have to bid for the right to buy a car

like singapore

mangyayari mga pinakamapera lang ang pwede bumili ng kotse

wouldn't you feel the govt is violating your right to own a car?

Well, I follow the law. If the law says that, then theres nothing I can do about it. It’s that simple.


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[Ketib]

"In a report released two days ago, the House of Representatives approved a bill that will increase the said tax by 90%, staggered for the next three years. Penned by Albay Representative, Joey Salceda, alongside the Department of Finance, the reason behind the proposal and its subsequent approval is to “recoup lost revenues due to inflation for the past 15 years”. The last adjustment (to the MVUC) was collected in 2014."

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[ninjababez]

btw mga bros
staggered pano?
1k, magiging 1.9k panong staggered baba sya or installment or tataas?

[dr. d]

i wouldn't drive my car, if i had an acceptable mass transit system to avail of.
perhaps that is what government should aggressively do: make it attractive to go mass transit. make the car owners choose to voluntarily leave their cars at home.

[dr. d]

^^^

more teeth but you hope the govt doesn't go extreme?

making registration more costly will already hurt the pockets of the rising middle class

want something more palpable?

ban registration of older cars (like 20 years old?)

i can't comment on that, because "i can afford it".

[Wh1stl3r]

what are the government-mandated added costs to car ownership, when you purchased that used car for 100K only?

VAT and excise tax on fuel for example. Let's not forget there's another P1.50/L excise tax hike due in a couple of months. We are just lucky oil prices have tanked thus the prevailing low pump prices despite the taxes.

*ninjababez
From Rappler bro:

For 1600 kg GVW and below:
2,080 in 2020
2,560 in 2021
3,040 in 2022

For 1601 kg to 2300 kg GVW:
4,680 in 2020
5,760 in 2021
6,840 in 2022

For 2301 kg and up GVW:
10,400 in 2020
12,800 in 2021
15,200 in 2022

House panel OKs bill increasing road users’ tax starting 22

[marky2115]

Dapat tax rate based on age ng car nalang mapa-dilapidated man yan or classic car. Then iimplement maigi yung exisitng laws.

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[heavenlee]

VAT and excise tax on fuel for example. Let's not forget there's another P1.50/L excise tax hike due in a couple of months. We are just lucky oil prices have tanked thus the prevailing low pump prices despite the taxes.

*ninjababez
From Rappler bro:

For 1600 kg GVW and below:
2,080 in 2020
2,560 in 2021
3,040 in 2022

For 1601 kg to 2300 kg GVW:
4,680 in 2020
5,760 in 2021
6,840 in 2022

For 2301 kg and up GVW:
10,400 in 2020
12,800 in 2021
15,200 in 2022

House panel OKs bill increasing road users’ tax starting 2�2�

Increase in Road Users' Tax, sir? The same tax which was proposed to be abolished last year because the Road Users' Board, which oversees the use of the money collected is very corrupt and / or inept in appropriating the money? Good luck. Another obvious money-making shceme of the "best and brightest" in congress.

[Wh1stl3r]

Increase in Road Users' Tax, sir? The same tax which was proposed to be abolished last year because the Road Users' Board, which oversees the use of the money collected is very corrupt and / or inept in appropriating the money? Good luck. Another obvious money-making shceme of the "best and brightest" in congress.

Yun na nga. Road Board is no more, yet the tax remains. They even aim to increase revenue with this measure. Nasarapan sa collection ang Treasury.