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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    I partially agree. Growth with equity (when the majority progresses) will contribute to lesser crime.

    A Digong presidency will literally lead to bloodshed
    I prefer a lower crime rate... mar roxas in the dilg did nothing imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    ...Never been a fan...

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    i was never a fan, too, of digong. but i'm impressed by his ability to turn davao city into what it is now.

    when i was still a young boy i remember my father had an errand guy who was a former member of the dreaded sparrow unit of the npa. he used to operate in agdao district, it was called then "nicaragdao," a slant of Nicaragua. it was a virtual killing field.

    however, he left the place, deserted the npa for good, and gone in hiding when the ALSA MASA was formed. (that was around the time that my father found him; he was a distant relative.)

    the alsa masa was a paramilitary counter-insurgency vigilante group formed by sparrow deserters together with the tadtad gang at the height of the npa purging (cleansing of its ranks of suspected collaborators). the alsa masa added notoriety of the place. from nicaragdao, they called it "barrio patay," because, according to some accounts, "people were butchered like chickens."

    this was the backdrop that digong had to contend with when he changed the face of his city. now, davao city is a far cry to what it was three decades ago.

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    #23
    I somewhat get everyone's point here..

    Pwera dun sa Binay over Duterte :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirLancelot View Post
    I somewhat get everyone's point here..

    Pwera dun sa Binay over Duterte :P
    Pound for pound without the corruption issue, binay is way better than duterte in all aspect.

    And even with corruption issue Kung si duterte lang and binay Ang pagpipilian, I'll pick binay anyday.

    Pareho lang naman silang political dynasty. Pareho pinapamana yun pwesto Sa mga anak.

    Shock and awe lang ginagawa ni duterte. Yun action star image niya can only do so much.

    If he wins I'm sure whatever gains we had will evaporate.

    And again....Anybody can be a mayor but not everybody can be president.

    Pang provincial city lang talaga Ang kakayahan niya. IMO

    Siguro to push PH to be globally competitive, Ang plano niya eh barilin, patayin lahat ng nationality. [emoji23]

    Wala pa talaga ako nababasa kung ano mga stands niya Sa mga issues ng Bansa.

    Dalawa na gumagamit ng name ni FPJ. Si grace Poe at least legally adopted ni FPJ while si duterte pretending to be FPJ.

    And please yun mga pamatay na retort ng mga fans. "Punta ka dito sa Davao, para makita mo nagawa..."




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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pound for pound without the corruption issue, binay is way better than duterte in all aspect.

    And even with corruption issue Kung si duterte lang and binay Ang pagpipilian, I'll pick binay anyday.

    Pareho lang naman silang political dynasty. Pareho pinapamana yun pwesto Sa mga anak.

    Shock and awe lang ginagawa ni duterte. Yun action star image niya can only do so much.

    If he wins I'm sure whatever gains we had will evaporate.

    And again....Anybody can be a mayor but not everybody can be president.

    Pang provincial city lang talaga Ang kakayahan niya. IMO

    Siguro to push PH to be globally competitive, Ang plano niya eh barilin, patayin lahat ng nationality. [emoji23]

    Wala pa talaga ako nababasa kung ano mga stands niya Sa mga issues ng Bansa.

    Dalawa na gumagamit ng name ni FPJ. Si grace Poe at least legally adopted ni FPJ while si duterte pretending to be FPJ.

    And please yun mga pamatay na retort ng mga fans. "Punta ka dito sa Davao, para makita mo nagawa..."




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    Yes I agree... I think that mas marami rin strategies si binay compared sa simple minded na Duterte.

    But the corruption issues Binay is facing is really a big no for me. Ipagkakatiwala mo ba sa magnanakaw ang highest position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirLancelot View Post
    Yes I agree... I think that mas marami rin strategies si binay...
    yes, strategies to... steal more from the public coffers once he will become president.
    well, somebody here said that if binay would become president there'd be no more corruption because by then he already took all the money. i couldn't agree more. [emoji15]

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    #27
    Duterte’s safe city
    Peter Wallace
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    12:09 AM | Thursday, May 28th, 2015

    Duterte’s safe city

    I visited Davao City last week and I was impressed. We’ve all heard of the “kill them” mayor; well, I met that mayor. A more down-to-earth person would be hard to find, and a more sincere person equally hard. Whether you agree with his ruthless approach to criminality or not, you can only be impressed with what he’s done for the city.

    We toured his emergency response station. I couldn’t believe I was in the Philippines. I mentioned how impressed (that word kept cropping up) I am with his new fire trucks. “Not new,” he said, “properly maintained.” Not only were they well-maintained, they were also well-equipped. Even helmets and fireproof clothing were on the seats waiting to be put on instantly for rapid response to a fire call.

    There was a pediatric ambulance just for mothers giving birth, which they can do in the ambulance if time runs out. It had an incubator, even cartoon paintings on the wall for a little comfort. It was a maternity hospital on wheels. The other ambulances were similarly well-equipped, and in perfect condition, not like the decrepit vans, inadequately converted and never maintained but emblazoned with the mayor’s name, you see elsewhere. Mayor Rodrigo Duterte’s name was nowhere to be seen, just the functions of the ambulance or emergency vehicle.

    There were rubber boats, fiberglass boats, even two amphibious vehicles, all carefully stored in working condition, ready for any emergency. Everything stored in a purpose-designed building. And throughout that building, everything was organized, tidily stored, ready for instant use. The only other place I’ve seen like it is my own workshop.

    We headed to the CCTV control center next door; it’s a world first jointly developed with IBM. I thought I was in one of those “CSI” series. There were two rooms full of screens depicting scenes on the roads of Davao from 1,300 CCTV cameras. These were cameras able to circle and zoom down to read a car’s plate number, cameras able to pick up an accident or a crime in full detail, even peek through the window into McDonalds to see what people are eating. “Impressive” is not a sufficient word—but be careful what you do in McDonalds.

    The emergency call center in the same building, like the CCTV monitoring, runs 24 hours. A call to 911 gets instant response. I tried it: Within three rings a girl answered, inquiring about the emergency. This at 1 a.m.

    The mayor says his central theme is “discipline”; everything revolves around that. He stands for no nonsense. Which brings us to the “Dirty Harry” (as this newspaper’s editorial referenced him) image. Certainly he doesn’t hesitate to talk tough. Does he do it, or at the least sanction it? I don’t know. Maybe it’s just a scare tactic, but Human Rights Watch accuses him of full complicity.

    In a civilized society, such action is reprehensible. But in a civilized society, the system of law works. In the Philippines, it very provably does not—as I’ve argued in many columns, to no effect, although the Chief Justice has promised reform. But she’s up against monumental problems and resistance. Criminals, even if they’re caught in the Philippines, get away with it. According to the International Freedom of Expression Exchange, 171 journalists have been killed since 1986, with only 16 convictions so far.

    It’s a difficult one, in a society where crime goes mostly unpunished. Duterte’s solution is drastic in the extreme and, in the wrong hands, could be massively abused, as we saw during martial law. But if you rely on an inutile legal system the society remains at risk from ruthless criminals. So what do you do? Do you stick to the democratic ideal, or accept that the reality calls for a different solution?

    And the reality is that crime flourishes in the Philippines, but doesn’t in Davao. It is now listed as the 12th safest city in the world, even outranking Tokyo, Dubai, Ottawa, Copenhagen and Reykjavik. Davao was given a crime index of 20.13. According to the Internet site Numbeo, which compiles crime statistics from more than 400 cities worldwide, “crime levels lower than 20 are very low, crime levels between 20 and 40 are low, crime levels between 40 and 60 are moderate and crime levels between 60 and 80 are considered high.” The next Philippine city is Cebu, ranked 236th, with a crime index of 48.88. Manila is ranked 359th, with a crime index of 67.78.

    In a letter to the editor, a visiting German rightly says: “You can’t apply Western ideas in the Philippines.” He adds: “Duterte makes no secret about what he thinks should be done with murderers and rapists. So every criminal knows what will happen if they cross the red line; they have been properly warned, and they have been given a fair chance to think twice before they make their choice.” Could this be the justification? Warning has been given.

    Aside from its impressive peace and order situation, Davao is also among the country’s most competitive local government units. The National Competitiveness Council (NCC) ranks Davao as the fourth most competitive city in the country, only behind Makati, Cagayan de Oro and Naga.

    Davao topped NCC’s Cities and Municipalities Competitiveness survey in terms of infrastructure (which covers subsectors such as health and education infrastructure and ICT connection); ranked 11th in economic dynamism (which includes jobs generated and the cost of doing business); and placed 13th in terms of government efficiency. The survey noted that Davao is the most transparent LGU in the country and the most active in terms of promoting investments. The NCC also recognized the city for its compliance to national directives to LGUs and efficient tax collection.

    I used to run a factory in Davao back in the late 1970s. It’s a different city today, one that works—in safety.

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    From a Duterte supporter:

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    How in the world can you strengthen our political institutions if corruption is deep rooted? The approach of Duterte is very simple, follow the law. If you can’t you are given a chance to adhere if not then face the consequence. We can all be idealists and say we have to strengthen this, we have to establish that…kung wala naman sumusunod at pasaway lahat e di walang kwenta din.

    Ang problema kasi minsan sa ibang mga intellectual ay medyo out of touch sila sa reality. It is impossible to apply the rule of law in this country because of how ineffective our justice system is. Ok sana kung yung mga dinedemandang kriminal ay nagre-resulta sa mataas na conviction rate at ang turn-around ng hustisya ay buwan hindi dekada ang bilang, minsan nga yung dekadang resulta wala pang pinal na desisyon. Yung Maguindanao massacre ni Mangundadatu…nasan na sila sa process ng justice system ng Pilipinas? Mamamatay na sa cancer yung primary suspect walang pang nangyayari!

    I get that some of you have this fear of how Duterte treats criminals (especially repeat offenders), but the question is are you a perp or having any thoughts of being a criminal in the future? If not then what is there to fear? The likes of the Marcos era where arbitrary detentions are prevalent seems to be one of the fears being propagated but my question is, does that happen in Davao City? Oh wait, Davao City was voted as the 6th safest City in the WORLD! Wait why is that? A city in the Philippines?? A city located if not surrounded by religious radicals and terrorists? It was done thru the leadership of one man and supported by his constituents who believe that radical change in culture and implementation of discipline is the key to prosperity.

    We have to look at our country as a special case wherein extraordinary actions are needed to enable or at least achieve an ideal government. Duterte’s promise is to lay down the initial work to establish a government the people truly deserves and hopefully to be continued by the next Administration.

    Humility is good coming from a potential leader of the country, in fact it is what we desire….in a PERFECT WORLD. But unfortunately we are not exactly in that dimension, sad to say.
    Duterte is not a miracle worker but he makes sure that the welfare of the people is always prioritized among anything or anyone else. That is one undeniable fact about Digong Duterte…it was proven so many times and still continues to persist.

    Keep your options open people, Digong is not putting a gun to your head to choose him as your next leader. Digong is saying what he can do for you and for this country. It is genuine, it is sustainable, it is tested it is effective.

    #DU302016

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    Some would view the Duterteserye as long and winded but these people are missing the point he is making. Duterte is effectively campaigning by maintaining himself in the eye of the storm.

    He stood out on federalism, public order, service delivery, dealing with politics, politicians and Congress, Yolanda, illegal drugs, development, laglagbala and, lately even APEC preps. The man is not even a candidate and he has, from Mindanao, been calling out and heckling supposed national leaders.

    He has effectively contrasted himself from all the declared presidential candidates. Truly a strategist’s game, Duterte is playing his chess game like a master.

    - Maria Lourdes Tiquia of The Manila Times

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    From Joseph John Palarca:

    I feel very strongly when people from Manila attack Mayor Duterte with the "human rights" song and make him out to be a Dirty Harry specifically because he is so much more than what the media in Manila portrays him.

    There are rarely (if any) mention of his actions in being first to arrive at Tacloban to aid Yolanda victims, or of his going around town incognito as a taxi driver to ask about the city, or that the funds collected from Davao City's anti-smoking campaign are being directed to hospitals in the city.

    No. Bad news sells better and people who know no better buy them outright.

    People mistake his often brash comments about putting criminals to death as his putting aside the law and promoting vigilanteeism and these people forget that he is a lawyer first before he became mayor. It is his respect of the law that drives him to speak passionately about protecting his constituents and punishing those who break the law.

    We talk about rights as if those who have been wronged have none. What our Mayor vehemently upholds are the rights of citizens who uphold the law not of those who break them. Criminals will get killed but according to set rules of engagement. Madami ngang nababaril sa Manila sa mababaw lang na gulo bakit bawal sa Davao?

    I grew up in Quezon City and lived there till I was in my late twenties. I lived in Cebu City also for 7 years before moving to Mandaluyong. All those years I lived in constant fear of criminals and distrustful of the corrupt governments in those cities. I found that safety and good governance are possible with good leadership,the kind that puts actions before promotion, service before commendation.

    We have a leader who is not afraid to act on his ideals and this I think makes people afraid because they have been so used to leaders who have no fortitude to do what is right.

    At the end of the day, people deserve the leaders they elect.

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