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    Attention: Philippine government!

    ‘Consumption driven’



    December 3, 2013 8:01 pm
    by MIKE WOOTTON
    VIEWS FROM A BRIT



    Well, the Philippine economy is certainly consumption driven, to a fault it seems and what is more the government pundits boast about it—well in the Philippines it is not something to boast about. China is trying to get their economy more consumption driven but the Chinese won’t spend money—the “savings bug” will be with them for a long time yet. Of course, there is nothing much easier than spending money in one of the many glittery shopping malls that continue to mushroom all over the place. Like the United Kingdom’s High Streets, they all have much the same outlets in them but occasionally you see something different, then you go back to have another look, and “poof” it’s gone! Something “a bit different” tends not to last too long around here.


    Much of the money that is spent in retail outlets is from the $14 billion a year remitted by the overseas Filipino worker community of about 10 million or 36 percent of the workforce. Filipinos, it seems, have a proclivity for shopping. Christmas is coming and providing the annual occasion for the regular gluttony of shopping; even this last weekend the traffic was getting very congested around the drop off points for the malls.

    What are sold in the malls are rarely made in the Philippines out of natural products grown in the Philippines, thus what are sold are in the vast majority imported goods and the majority of those imports come from China, from which the Philippines sources 13 percent of its $78 billion’s worth per year of imports (based on official statistics and therefore not including the reported $20 billion per year of “smuggled goods” which if counted would knock the even now fairly dismal balance of trade figures very significantly).


    The more malls there are, the more sales of expensive imported goods there will be, and the more exporting will be required by the Philippines in order to offset massive import dependency; but consumption as a major contributor to economic growth will surely rise to keep Chinese and other exporter nations workers in jobs!

    Rather than developing real estate for retail purposes, perhaps a bit more emphasis could be given to using those same investment monies for developing manufacturing facilities which would produce good quality products from local materials, and create jobs with higher skill levels than required for five million sales assistants and managers . . .? In the long run, short of a miracle or two or the creation of more real skilled jobs, the market for expensive imported consumer products must diminish.
    Mike can be contacted at mawootton*gmail.com

    source: ?Consumption driven? | The Manila Times Online
    Last edited by jpdm; December 9th, 2013 at 08:40 AM.

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    This has been the obvious quite a while unfortunately.

    We don't have a strong manufacturing sector but rather rely a lot on services and remittances. Pag pasok ng OFW money then it's off to the mall to buy-buy-buy. We will not have a strong manufacturing sector because of cost of high electricity costs, labor issues (just ask those idiot leftists), logistic concerns, red tape (and that is an understatement), and lack of a market that can meet real economies of scale unless you are a regional trader.

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    posted 01-23-2010

    http://tsikot.com/forums/politics-ec...ucky%92-67113/
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    from the article posted above:

    Boasting of her accomplishments after nine years in office, Arroyo said the peso was stronger, tax reforms were in place, and social services available to most Filipinos.
    "Ito lang yata ang administrasyon na lumakas ang piso kaysa humina [This seems to be the only administration where the peso got stronger instead of weaker]," she said.

    GMA, you are not responsible for the strong peso

    the peso is strong coz 10% of the population is working abroad, sending foreign currency to the Phils., pumping up the country's foreign currency reserves

    and thank the US Fed's monetary policy for the weak dollar

    don't thank yourself

    we're not stupid

    kaya mo bolahin ang mga ignorant masses

    di kami

    “Ang papel ko ay ihanda ang pundasyon. . . . Andyan na yan, ang pundasyon ng matatag na ekonomiya at inaasahan natin na itutuloy niya iyon para maramdaman ng mga Pilipino [My role is to lay down the foundation…It’s there, the foundation of a strong economy and we expect that this will be felt by the Filipinos],” Arroyo said.
    pundasyon my ass

    your pundasyon is an economy that's entirely dependent on labor export

    you have an economy that's mostly end-user consumption, very little production

    a lot of businesses here are trading businesses, not goods-producing businesses

    we import everything


    and we use dollars earned by OFWs to pay for imports

    that's our economy

    you think the Phils. is getting richer coz OFWs keep sending dollars?

    NO

    our OFW dollar earnings go to exporting countries

    we are tranferring our wealth to other countries

    we make other countries richer (like China, Japan, Korea etc) coz we buy their goods

    they invest in more production, which employs more of their people, their people have more money, their people's standard of living rises

    that makes them richer

    get it?

    the OFW trend will go on for years (and decades) to come

    coz our country is already addicted to OFW earnings

    soon 15%, 20% of the population will be working abroad

    the Philippines has become a manpower agency

    that's your economy GMA

    again, we are not stupid

    BTW,

    coz the Phils. has a steady stream of forex earnings,

    our govt uses that as "collateral" to borrow money

    (hey, may pera kami pumapasok, pwede niyo kami pautangin, may pambayad kami)

    coz our forex earnings keep growing, it allows more borrowing

    foreign banks love lending us money coz they make tons of money underwriting our bonds

    and bond investors love our bonds coz of the high yield

    as long as OFWs keep sending money to the Phils.

    the Phils. can keep borrowing money

    it's clear the govt, and the country, will fail without OFW remittances

    that's your economy, GMA

    and the next president will have no choice but to pick up where you left off

    he will just keep encouraging pinoys to go abroad
    Last edited by uls; December 9th, 2013 at 10:12 AM.

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    from the article posted by jpdm:

    The more malls there are, the more sales of expensive imported goods there will be, and the more exporting will be required by the Philippines in order to offset massive import dependency; but consumption as a major contributor to economic growth will surely rise to keep Chinese and other exporter nations workers in jobs!
    like i said we make China and other exporters richer

    Rather than developing real estate for retail purposes, perhaps a bit more emphasis could be given to using those same investment monies for developing manufacturing facilities which would produce good quality products from local materials, and create jobs with higher skill levels than required for five million sales assistants and managers . . .? In the long run, short of a miracle or two or the creation of more real skilled jobs, the market for expensive imported consumer products must diminish.
    we've discussed this before. remember those threads about building a pinoy car? my side is it's not gonna happen. people said i'm too negative

    well years have passed and there still isnt a massed-produced original pinoy car

    it's not coz there's no capital

    there's a lot of capital out there

    but investors aren't willing to direct capital toward mass-producing original pinoy cars coz it's too risky

    that was my argument

    our capitalists would rather invest their capital in real estate (building malls and condos)

    the other side kept posting about how talented pinoys are. that pinoys can design cars and all that. but what are you gonna do with designs when nobody is willing invest in turning those designs into reality?
    Last edited by uls; December 9th, 2013 at 11:00 AM.

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    ^ Hehe... looking at what's been happening, Aquino ver 2.0 has been less than lucky.

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    proverb of the day

    "Ang kurap na gobyerno, paborito nya OFW"


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    Because majority of our officials have no long term goal beyond the next election and/or are busy trying to cover their tracks when they end up getting sued after stepping down.

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    Good for the Ayalas that they are able to hold and grow their wealth for over a century.

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tsikot Car Forums mobile app

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    There was already a manufacturing base economy but they all left when the government and labor unions screwed them up. That is why the philippines is not in any investor's radar. Also our export of labor is not exclusive and may not be sustainable. Other countries are now doing the same thing. Just look at the number of Indonesian DH in HK...
    Last edited by Monseratto; December 13th, 2013 at 07:50 AM.

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    So many tens of thousands here in the south screwed out of high paying jobs for multinationals due to labor unrest instigated by the KMU...

    Guys with housing, medical and educational benefits... now relegated back to the life of the barely-above-poverty-level blue collar worker. :grumpy:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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