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    the taipans are the only ones getting richer

    their businesses are capturing all the consumer spending

    they own the malls and major retailers

    they own the biggest real estate devt companies (that's where people invest their savings)

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    from the article posted by Monseratto

    Easy credit has also led to inflating housing and consumer prices.
    exactly

    aside from OFW money flooding the economy consumers also have easy access to credit (credit cards, car loans, personal loans, housing loans)

    you'd think everyone's getting rich

    many are just piling on debt

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    A contrarian view, however, would say that we are getting richer since foreign countries are willing to export their resources for less.

    but then,
    Tim: Writers such as Bob Murphy had given you a hard time on what seemed to be your anti-trade deficit views, though Murphy has since admitted that you are right in your assessment of our current mess. Do you think a trade deficit is always bad for a country?

    Peter: No. Trade deficits are OK under certain circumstance. 1. An emerging nation imports capital goods necessary to enhance its productivity. 2. A developed nation, with a current account surplus, uses some of its investment income to finance the purchases of additional consumer goods from abroad.

    The problem with our deficit is that we import consumer goods we can not afford to pay for with either exports or foreign earnings. As such we accumulate external liabilities that we will never be able to repay and our nation’s future productive capacity continues to deteriorate. We are de-industrializing and are condemning ourselves and future generations to falling standards of living.
    Interview with Peter Schiff
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    ^^^

    Trade deficits are OK under certain circumstance. 1. An emerging nation imports capital goods necessary to enhance its productivity. 2. A developed nation, with a current account surplus, uses some of its investment income to finance the purchases of additional consumer goods from abroad.

    The problem with our deficit is that we import consumer goods we can not afford to pay for with either exports or foreign earnings.

    but the Philippines imports more consumer goods than capital goods

    it's not like we're importing industrial robots and machines for manufacturing

    we import tons of consumer goods just like the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the taipans are the only ones getting richer

    their businesses are capturing all the consumer spending

    they own the malls and major retailers

    they own the biggest real estate devt companies (that's where people invest their savings)
    Agree here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the taipans are the only ones getting richer
    but before they become millionaires/billionaires, the Philippines is dominated by mestizos...
    they just work hard.
    and that should be we all do to replace these taipans ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollyic View Post
    but before they become millionaires/billionaires, the Philippines is dominated by mestizos...
    they just work hard.
    and that should be we all do to replace these taipans ;)
    the mestizos became complacent

    they rested on their laurels thinking they'll never lose their place in the social-economic order

    succeeding generations are too spoled to work. they only know how to spend. businesses failed. property sold off to finance their high living

    while the mestizos were squandering their wealth chinoys were accumulating

    kaya ganun

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    when i said "the taipans are the only ones getting richer" i didnt mean it in a bad way

    and i wasnt referring only to ethnic chinese

    kasama doon mga Ayala and other non-chinese billionaires whose businesses capture most of the consumer spending
    Last edited by uls; December 9th, 2013 at 04:48 PM.

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    Good for the Ayalas that they are able to hold and grow their wealth for over a century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^




    but the Philippines imports more consumer goods than capital goods

    it's not like we're importing industrial robots and machines for manufacturing

    we import tons of consumer goods just like the US
    Again I agree. We import more consumer goods than capital goods used to produce other goods. So our huge trade deficits year after year are not healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the mestizos became complacent

    they rested on their laurels thinking they'll never lose their place in the social-economic order

    succeeding generations are too spoled to work. they only know how to spend. businesses failed. property is sold off to finance their high living

    while the mestizos were squandering their wealth chinoys were accumulating

    kaya ganun

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    when i said "the taipans are the only ones getting richer" i didnt mean it in a bad way

    and i wasnt referring only to ethnic chinese

    kasama doon mga Ayala and other non-chinese billionaires whose businesses capture most of the consumer spending
    My boss told me na may chinese philisophy din daw na usually, even sa chinese, third gens yung umuubos din nang pera kasi nga spoiled na eh. So even now na they are on top, they are wary of that pitfall. So that bodes well for them because they have learned from history.

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